Zodiac

Yeah, the middle was merely really good, the rest was fantastic! Its so weird this film HAD to be this long, and the middle portion could have been more engaging but even it had its great moments (like the scene with Leigh at his work in the break-room...)

Overall, this is just as awesome as Fight Club (not as amazing as Se7en however) and contrary to what someone said above, I was completely engaged in the characters and their obsessions and the subtlties were astounding with each character.

Fincher has never done work this character-oriented or sprawling before, but in the process lost a bit of his sense of style midway through, only to regain it for act 3. The first half was brilliant, the first half of the second half was good and the ending was great but cut short. I wanted one final shot of them waiting and then someone else comes in to tell them the news. Black-out. But I do enjoy me some McPoyle.

EDIT: Screw it, after looking at Se7en...this may be Fincher's best film. Its battling it out with Se7en right now in my head and I watch Se7en just to be sure.

Oh and the part with Graysmith and Leigh...holy damn. "No." Yeah. Amazing.

Fincher, I love you for making amazing films, albeit really long ones. But thats how it had to be, no doubt.

while i definitely prefer Se7en over zodiac, i do find zodiac to be lingering in my head longer than i remember Se7en doing so.
 
To think. I'm old enough to actually remember the Zodiac killings of yesteryear.
 
I actually just got home from the movie as we speak


My personal opinion is it is one of the best detective movies I have ever seen

and this was one of the first times I have ever been impressed with Mark Ruffalo, if not the most I have ever been impressed with him

and RDJ is still one of the greats out there
 
Yep, Mark Ruffalo does a great job... as well as Robert Downey Jr.
 
damn this movie was deep as hell...10/10
all these actors should get some kind of award for this

Growing up here in the bay area,this freaked out a whole lot of people..My mom still thinks the zodiac is out there.scary shyte
 
damn this movie was deep as hell...10/10
all these actors should get some kind of award for this

Growing up here in the bay area,this freaked out a whole lot of people..My mom still thinks the zodiac is out there.scary shyte

I obviously don't know what movies are coming out in 2007 oscar season, but if it where released in 06 I could easily have seen this be up for best picture, cause I think it is much better than Little Miss sunshine, and Babel, and the Queen, but not better than Departed
 
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Hey, sure Zodiac can be better than Babel or Queen, but LMS really rocked :up:
 
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Hey, sure Zodiac can be better than Babel or Queen, but LMS really rocked :up:

My personal opinion is LMS is a nice movie that got way over hyped, and that overhypeness ruined it for me, I think it is actually like a 7/10, but it got way to hyped, like I work at a video store, and everyone tells me how awesome it is, and I just think it is okay, and that kind of ruined it for me

I think its good, but way overrated, and like it won best original screen play verses Pan's Labrynth, and my reaction was how could this be more original than Pan's Labrynth, and imo was no where near as good.

but that is all me, I think its a good movie, way overrated

I think there where two low budget comedies that where far superior last year in Clerks 2, and Thank you for smoking

that was my LMS rant...

I think Zodiac is far superior but thats just me
 
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Well, that's your opinion. As for me, LMS was great movie, it had very different and unique characters and excellent story sctructure. Actors were great and the whole idea of the movie is funny.
 
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Well, that's your opinion. As for me, LMS was great movie, it had very different and unique characters and excellent story sctructure. Actors were great and the whole idea of the movie is funny.

Outside of a cliched disfunctional familey, i.e. Cursing grandfather, cute child, rebelious teenager, work-aholic out of touch dad, and a wierd uncle....yeah I'd say their a bit unique:o
 
PHENOMINAL movie if anything because of the subtle approach to intricate detail. The casting was brilliant. I don't think there was a bad performance, personally. All three male leads were GREAT. And I also love it when Elias Coteas (sp) slips into a movie!

Fincher is brilliant. Again, because of the underplay in direction. He's not hitting you over the head with his color matte, a la Fight Club, The Game, but you know it's him.

I didn't have a problem with the running time. In fact, I thought it helped make the movie, since the film expands through several decades.

I enjoyed the mixture of genres. You didn't feel like the film makers were pushing too hard with the violence or the profanity...it all came naturally which is something almost everyone misses the boat with nowadays.

It's too bad it's so early because I feel like this thriller could be a contender with the right push.

It may not be Finch's flashiest "studio" effort, but that shows his maturation as a director when he doesn't have to stamp himself all over it.

Finally, I know a film is good when it leaves a lasting impression. I couldn't get the haunting images out of my head all weekend! I was even checking all my locks twice, and waking up to unheard noises...that's when I know I've seen something special.
 
Outside of a cliched disfunctional familey, i.e. Cursing grandfather, cute child, rebelious teenager, work-aholic out of touch dad, and a wierd uncle....yeah I'd say their a bit unique:o

I can't find there anything close to cliche, maybe you could give a clear example? ;)
 
PHENOMINAL movie if anything because of the subtle approach to intricate detail. The casting was brilliant. I don't think there was a bad performance, personally. All three male leads were GREAT. And I also love it when Elias Coteas (sp) slips into a movie!

Fincher is brilliant. Again, because of the underplay in direction. He's not hitting you over the head with his color matte, a la Fight Club, The Game, but you know it's him.

I didn't have a problem with the running time. In fact, I thought it helped make the movie, since the film expands through several decades...

I didn't have a problem with the running time either. It didn't bother me at all. In fact, I didn't realize the movie was as long as it was until after I left the theater.
 
I can't find there anything close to cliche, maybe you could give a clear example? ;)

Whats not cliche about a old cursing grandfather, a Rebelious teenager, and a cute kid, out of touch dad, and weird uncle? In every example of a dysfunctional familey those are the exact same elements used

for one, Full House sans cursing grandfather; cute kids, semi rebelious teenagers, out of touch dad, weird uncle joey

how about frasier; loud mouth grandfather, strange uncle, out of touch dad (to his rebelious son who doesn't wanna be a straight arrow like his father)

How about every National Lampoons Chevy Chase griswald vacation movie, LMS is pretty much point for point carbon copy of that familey

I could go on, and I do like the movie so I don't wanna run it into the ground, but I think it was the most overrated movie of 2006 and that is saying alot cause Superman Returns and the Da Vinci code both came out that year too. I think LMS is okay, even pretty good, but great? best picture nominee? no
 
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You know that you use "overrated" too much, so it sounds like cliche :o
 
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You know that you use "overrated" too much, so it sounds like cliche :o


Probably, I do think a lot of movies are overrated, and that pretty much is my no. 1 turn-off to a particular movie, but nevertheless I think LMS is overrated

to keep this Zodiacness

Zodiac is better:woot:
 
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300 is going to own, it already has so much positivity from critics :up:
 
So, thats cool, right? A thread about Little Miss Sunshine and 300...

Not Zodiac though. That'd be too easy.
 
Just got back, great film! One of Fincher's best IMO. I loved everything about the film. Great perfomances by Ruffalo, Edwards, and Gyllenhall, but RDJ owns!! Great direction by Fincher of course. Some of the shots were amazing. I really liked the pacing as well....the movie was almost three hours long, but it didn't feel like it to me. Fincher did a great job of showing the ins and outs of police work. I really loved it 9/10
 
So, thats cool, right? A thread about Little Miss Sunshine and 300...

Not Zodiac though. That'd be too easy.

there isn't much to say about zodiac, it pretty much was as good as you can be in almost every part of the movie

outside of the lenght (which didn't seem that long while watching it)
and the abrubpt jumps in time in which the characters act like last scene was yesturday when it might be a half a year

I see no problems with this movie at all

so what is left? Comparisons, how good is it? compare it to something, I chose LMS, 300 comes out one week after Zodiac did
 

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