Fantasy ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’ Franchise on Paramount+ General Discussion

[DarthSkywalker]

Like I said, most of season 2.

I don't think it's most. I think it's exactly half. Mir did 7 episodes of a 14 episode season.

Beginnings Part 1 and 2
A New Spiritual Age
Night of a Thousand Stars
Harmonic Convergence
Darkness Falls
Light in the Dark

And well, Beginnings is a special kind of special. A New Spiritual Age is also an underrated beaut.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

can we get a thread merger?

 

[MadVillainy]

Why would this thread need to get merged? I don't see multiple version of this thread

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Three New Animated ‘Avatar’ Films In Works; Lauren Montgomery To Direct First – Deadline

 

[Lily Adler]

Three New Animated ‘Avatar’ Films In Works; Lauren Montgomery To Direct First – Deadline

I was so hoping M. Night can come back to prove everyone wrong like he did with Old.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Sithborg]

I imagine Disney is looking at this like a confused dog.

"Two movies starring queer leads?"

 

[Primal Slayer]

Im surprised we aren't getting an adult Aang film.

 

[Pennywise]

Nickelodeon And Paramount Tease Animation Slate, Including A Rad TMNT Movie And The Next Avatar Project [Annecy 2022]

Since the film is still in early development, not much was shown. Still, audiences at Annecy were delighted with the first piece of concept art on Montgomery's film. The concept art was accompanied by a short clip that started with the symbol of each of the four elements that comprise the logo of Avatar Studios, along with the caption: "The Avatar is Back."

As for the concept art, it showed what looked like an Earth Kingdom fortress in a misty mountain range, quite similar to that of General Fong's fortress. At the bottom of the image was a symbol for the element of Earth.

 

[Sithborg]

It is starting to make sense why they are starting with Kyoshi. Using a character that we don't have attachment to to introduce the new animation style is smart.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Lily Adler]

Thank goodness for Paramount Peacock to bail this franchise out.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Primal Slayer]

I forgot about this verse. If they don't hurry it'll be over before it gets a chance to breathe with paramount looking to sell

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Still Wynning]

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“…world-shattering disaster…”

A nuke. It’s totally a nuke.

So, the creators are taking one of the actually good and interesting pieces of world-building I actually liked, the technology, and just said, “Nope, gone!” and dropped a bomb on everything as a near reset for a back-to-basics approach.

As much as I’m looking forward to this, knowing how their last venture into this world ended up makes me a little cautious. I liked LoK season one up until near the end, pretty much disliked season two save for the Avatar Wan episodes, sort of liked of season three, started watching season four and then just gave up after the first episode. I went from sort of enjoying it to mostly just watching out of obligation to see if it would get better, but, for me, it never really did. Most of the characters were just not that very interesting or underdeveloped, the title character really rubbed me the wrong way, the quality of the writing and plotting is very inconsistent, it just didn’t grip me as much as the original series and they cannot write romance to save their life. I realize that it’s not completely the creators fault and that Nickelodeon did a lot of meddling, but even a good creator can roll with the punches and still make something good out of it. LoK was fine but it did not live up to the expectations set by the original series. It felt like they wanted to re-create the magic they had with ATLA (Similar character archetypes, romance, fan-service, etc.) on a superficial level, but kind of missed the point of why those things worked in the original show to begin with.

Also, while I like Korrasami as a concept, it’s very apparent that it wasn’t originally planned and if they had done more building and setting up from the get-go, I would’ve liked it a whole lot more, but it just kind of comes out of nowhere.

The one thing I will give praise to is the animation. Studio Mir really stepped and put 110% into everything that they did on that show. All of the fights are easily an upgrade and improvement in every way over the original series, and the more detailed and fluid animation really does allow for a lot of really cool, dynamic choreography. Also has some of the most creative uses of bending in either of the shows (metal bending rules and is frickin’ cool!). I would probably not enjoy the show nearly as much if it weren’t for them, and it’s a trend I hope continues into the next series.

Despite how this post reads, I’m still excited and rooting for this to succeed. I’m just tempering my expectations a bit this time around if the worst should happen.

 

[Primal Slayer]

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Basically paramount has also dropped this franchise leaving it up to the network to save it

 

[Snow Queen]

Lines up with the interesting-sounding leaks. Looking forward to seeing some footage from it.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Still Wynning]

I appreciate that this has a set beginning and end and has everything planned out a lot more. Means the creators/writers know where they’re starting, what journey they are taking and where they’re going to end up. Tells me they have more confidence in how they’re going to write the characters and tell the story they want to tell, and not go in half-cocked, unprepared and have to change course at the last minute, which was one of the major downfalls of the last series. Makes me more hopeful for this one.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I appreciate that this has a set beginning and end and has everything planned out a lot more. Means the creators/writers know where they’re starting, what journey they are taking and where they’re going to end up. Tells me they have more confidence in how they’re going to write the characters and tell the story they want to tell, and not go in half-cocked, unprepared and have to change course at the last minute, which was one of the major downfalls of the last series. Makes me more hopeful for this one.

I do like that aspect. Korra's first two seasons' issue come directly from that. I just wish this wasn't so short. Because it becomes an exercise of fitting in the story and you lose out on a lot of the fun world building and character episodes. The end of Earth only hits so hard because it was 40 episodes in. Korra was only able to course correct because it was 52 episodes long.

 

[Still Wynning]

I do like that aspect. Korra's first two seasons' issue come directly from that. I just wish this wasn't so short. Because it becomes an exercise of fitting in the story and you lose out on a lot of the fun world building and character episodes. The end of Earth only hits so hard because it was 40 episodes in. Korra was only able to course correct because it was 52 episodes long.

Hopefully, having a smaller cast of characters to focus on mitigates this issue. And I’ve seen a lot of 26 episode series, both American cartoons and anime, that managed to tell their stories while taking breaths without making things feel rushed. So, as long as this show balances between the main threads and the more low-key, laid-back moments, I think it will be fine.

Apparently, according to some things I’ve read online, this series has less of a main villain and more of an overall general threat that our main characters have to overcome, so they could essentially simultaneously show us what the world is like while also giving us what the conflict is, so we can spend more time with our main cast just doing regular things and being normal people so its not always just them constantly trying to figure out and solve the problem the entire time.