🇷🇺🇺🇦 Discussion: Relations with Russia and the war in Ukraine

[squeekness]

Finland set to join Nato after Turkish parliament approval

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[:eek:]

‘Absurdity to a new level’ as Russia takes charge of UN security council | United Nations | The Guardian

 

[Iceman]

‘Absurdity to a new level’ as Russia takes charge of UN security council | United Nations | The Guardian

That is absolutely dumb! What are they doing over there? Maybe Xi or Kim Jong can be the next leader?

 

[:eek:]

Bulgaria blames Russians for election chaos – EURACTIV.com

 

[squeekness]

That is absolutely dumb! What are they doing over there? Maybe Xi or Kim Jong can be the next leader?

Should at least be boycotted or sparsely attended.

 

[Holy Slapper]

Stoltenberg: Finland will become Nato member on Tuesday

 

[squeekness]

Stoltenberg: Finland will become Nato member on Tuesday

 

[Iceman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-6517304
Nato's border with Russia doubles as Finland joins

Good point about the massively expanded border. What a massive own goal for Putin. Sweden will surely be in NATO at some point too.

 

[squeekness]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-6517304

Good point about the massively expanded border. What a massive own goal for Putin. Sweden will surely be in NATO at some point too.

I certainly hope Sweden will soon follow, too.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Elon Musk has put Vladimir Putin back on Twitter.

Telegraph - Putin’s Twitter account resurfaces as Russia comes in from the cold
Elon Musk’s social media site lifts restrictions on Kremlin-linked tweets

At the same time purported leaked classified U.S. documents about Ukraine and others are surfacing on rightwing websites Twitter, Telegram, and 4chan.

This is reminding me of the time before the 2016 election while Russia was working to get Trump in the White House.

New Voice of Ukraine - Analysis of Twitter algorithm code reveals social medium down-ranks tweets about Ukraine

 

[:eek:]

Egypt secretly planned to supply rockets to Russia, leaked U.S. document says - The Washington Post

 

[Tempus Fugit]

I certainly hope Sweden will soon follow, too.

When Sweden joins NATO gets (essentially) an unsinkable aircraft carrier right in the middle of the Baltic Sea in the form of the Island of Gotland.

I wonder if President Putin's supporters have won so much that they're tired of winning yet.

 

[Morg]

Russian tank captured by Ukrainian forces turns up at Louisiana truck stop


weird, thought they would use it against the Russians

 

[squeekness]

When Sweden joins NATO gets (essentially) an unsinkable aircraft carrier right in the middle of the Baltic Sea in the form of the Island of Gotland.

I wonder if President Putin's supporters have won so much that they're tired of winning yet.

I'm amazed no one has put a bullet in Putin's head yet, or that he hasn't fallen out of a window.

 

[Iceman]

When Sweden joins NATO gets (essentially) an unsinkable aircraft carrier right in the middle of the Baltic Sea in the form of the Island of Gotland.

I wonder if President Putin's supporters have won so much that they're tired of winning yet.

These are major permanent strategic losses for Russia. Putin is terrible at this.

 

[Tempus Fugit]

These are major permanent strategic losses for Russia. Putin is terrible at this.

I strongly suspect that his (Putin's) current course of action was inspired by a combination of incompetence on the part of the Trump administration and an associated perception that it was catastrophically weakening NATO. Possibly aided by things like the passing of the torch in Germany from Merkel to Scholz. On it's face the odds must have looked pretty good...

Then Trump lost a 2nd term.
And Sholz turned out to be competent.
And Biden appointed a competent State Department.
And then the comedian turned President turned out to actually be a fighter.
And NATO turned out to be not quite so fragmented and toothless after all.
And...etc. etc. etc.

Bottom line in my opinion is that Russia lost this war as soon as they failed to take Kyiv in the first 3 days. Then they Really lost this war when it re-energized NATO. Then they Really REALLY lost this war when it drove historically neutral nations into alignment and membership with NATO.

When the history of this time is written it will not surprise me if the "Special Military Operation" going on in Ukraine right now is referred to as "Putin's ****-up"

 

[InCali]

I strongly suspect that his (Putin's) current course of action was inspired by a combination of incompetence on the part of the Trump administration and an associated perception that it was catastrophically weakening NATO. Possibly aided by things like the passing of the torch in Germany from Merkel to Scholz. On it's face the odds must have looked pretty good...

Then Trump lost a 2nd term.
And Sholz turned out to be competent.
And Biden appointed a competent State Department.
And then the comedian turned President turned out to actually be a fighter.
And NATO turned out to be not quite so fragmented and toothless after all.
And...etc. etc. etc.

Bottom line in my opinion is that Russia lost this war as soon as they failed to take Kyiv in the first 3 days. Then they Really lost this war when it re-energized NATO. Then they Really REALLY lost this war when it drove historically neutral nations into alignment and membership with NATO.

When the history of this time is written it will not surprise me if the "Special Military Operation" going on in Ukraine right now is referred to as "Putin's ****-up"

Putin's mess-up?

 

[squeekness]

I don't think History books will be kind to Putin, no, if he loses Ukraine. You can't be responsible for that many deaths with no result for the motherland and be praised. I'd love to see him rot in prison, but I think his end will come with a bullet or a long fall from a high building.

 

[Iceman]

Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza given 25 years in prison for condemning war in Ukraine — CNN

 

[squeekness]

Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza given 25 years in prison for condemning war in Ukraine — CNN

Guess someone forgot to fall out of a window?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Pro-Russia propagandist unmasked as New Jersey tropical fish seller

To her devoted followers, “Donbas Devushka” – or Donbas Girl – is a Russian Jew from the occupied Ukrainian city of Luhansk, who has faithfully broadcast Kremlin propaganda for months.

But in reality, she is Sarah Bils, a 37-year-old divorcee from New Jersey and a US Navy veteran who served as an aviation electronics technician at Whitby Island in Washington State.

Donbas Devushka emerged after Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine in February last year.

She built up a sizeable social media following on Twitter, Telegram and YouTube, emerging as the face of Russian propaganda, raising money and selling merchandise for the Russian cause.

WSJ News Exclusive | Social-Media Account Overseen by Former Navy Noncommissioned Officer Helped Spread Secrets

A social-media account overseen by a former U.S. Navy noncommissioned officer—a prominent online voice supporting Russia’s war on Ukraine—played a key role in the spread of intelligence documents allegedly leaked by Airman First Class Jack Teixeira, reposting files from obscure online chat rooms.

 

[squeekness]

The things people do for attention, yikes.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza given 25 years in prison for condemning war in Ukraine — CNN

Almost a third of this man's life.

Just flat out evil.

 

[squeekness]

Almost a third of this man's life.

Just flat out evil.

Maybe if Putin falls he might get out early.