🇷🇺🇺🇦 Discussion: Relations with Russia and the war in Ukraine

[Iceman]

Here's the thing, they may be slightly more entrenched. But there is a rather big catch. If Ukraine can get their fancy schmancy new HIMARs in range of the bridge that connects Crimea to Russia, well. Russia hasn't had the best of luck with aquatic crossings this year.

Sounds like a great strategy. If they can't move freely between the two, the value of Crimea reduces a fair bit. Also means reinforcing and resupplying it would be difficult while Ukraine would have plenty of time to barrage it freely. Putin didn't bargain for this - Ukraine is just one issue for Russia but now Russia is THE issue for Ukraine for likely the next few decades. And getting Crimea back would be the biggest win for Ukraine and biggest PR defeat for Putin.

 

[Iceman]

Hope it's enough that they boot Putin's butt out.

Never heard any dissent against Putin before but people are getting tempted now. Good sign hopefully.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

UAWire - Kyiv: All of Kherson region is now under Ukraine's fire control


‘He was special’: the story of [Ukrainian President] Zelenskiy told by his home town [of Kryvy Rih] | Volodymyr Zelenskiy | The Guardian (August 2022)

 

[Iceman]

Putin 'finished' as Russians record 'astonishing failure' against 'well-prepared' Ukraine (msn.com)
Article worth reading even if the title is a bit over the top.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Iceman]

Any idea how much Ukrainian territory Russia still holds?

 

[chamber-music]

For the younger and slightly less brainwashed Russians, it must be strange to see all these western companies leave their shores for what they were told would be a 2-day operation and here we are getting closer to the end of the year and they are actually losing ground fast. The propaganda machine can keep changing its story every few days but at some point it's going to get hard to believe.

30,000 mostly young Russians from the Western urban cities and suburbs have left Russia since the war with Ukraine began.

Many of these dissident Russians have fled to neighbouring Georgia's capital city Tbilisi.

 

[Iceman]

30,000 mostly young Russians from the Western urban cities and suburbs have left Russia since the war with Ukraine began.

Many of these dissident Russians have fled to neighbouring Georgia's capital city Tbilisi.

Don’t blame them. At least they can have a future if they take their skills elsewhere.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Politico.eu - Navalny aide says the jailed Russian dissident has disappeared

 

[squeekness]

30,000 mostly young Russians from the Western urban cities and suburbs have left Russia since the war with Ukraine began.

Many of these dissident Russians have fled to neighbouring Georgia's capital city Tbilisi.

I can't blame them, either. Who wouldn't want a better life with freedom?

 

[:eek:]

Europe’s Populist Wave May Be a Gift to Putin - Bloomberg

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine war: Mass grave found in liberated Izyum city - officials

 

[Fosterson]

Ukraine war: Mass grave found in liberated Izyum city - officials

The Russian army is good at one thing: committing war crimes.

 

[squeekness]

Ukraine war: Mass grave found in liberated Izyum city - officials

Such fine people, those Russians.

 

[Hobgoblin]

This war really is like something from the past century. I’m both surprised and not surprised by it. Makes you wonder what other surprises are coming.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Reuters - Kyrgyzstan says Tajikistan resumes shelling after ceasefire deal

With Russia exposed as a militarily paper tiger and Putin as a distracted embarrassment of a leader whose strongest play is mass graves and general marauding brutality, the various regional and border powers are now escalating their conflicts.


Georgia proposes to hold a referendum and ask if Georgians want war with Russia | odessa-journal.com

Reuters - [U.S. House Speaker] Pelosi confirms snap visit to Armenia after deadly clashes

 

[InCali]

Such fine people, those Russians.

As we all know, there are very fine people on both sides of the war....err.....excuse me, "special operation".

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Reuters - [U.S. House Speaker] Pelosi confirms snap visit to Armenia after deadly clashes

 

[squeekness]

Those convicts are lucky, I'm sure many more of them were simply cannon fodder and got wiped right out.

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine counter-offensive won't change Russia's plans – Putin

 

[squeekness]

Ukraine counter-offensive won't change Russia's plans – Putin

Putin won't stop until every Russian male besides himself is dead.

 

[Fosterson]

Putin won't stop until every Russian male besides himself is dead.

He views them all as expendable cannon fodder.

 

[Sithborg]

Any idea how much Ukrainian territory Russia still holds?

Still long ways to go. But, if the rest of the eastern front holds as well as it did, may be able to easily meet up with the southern front.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

United Nations Office on Genocide Prevention and the Responsibility to Protect

1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
   • Killing members of the group
   • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
   • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
   • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
   • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

 

[squeekness]

I can only hope the kidnapped children are eventually reunited with their families. Just another war among a growing list.