2005-2006 NBA thread

[DarthRekal]

first of all jordan had pippen...give kobe pippen and we'll see this team flourish..... secondly what other 2 gaurd during jordan's era was remotely as good as the competition KOBE has..tmac...IVerson..wade...lebron.... no talent pool close to that in the 90's....thirdly MAGIC BIRD...STOCKTON..had a legit team..... the bench riders in the 80's lakers coulda started anywhere in the league ..and bird had MCHALE. parrish, ainge...alll solid players couple even hall of famers.... who on the lakers WILL EVEN MAKE AN ALL STAR APPEARANCE LET ALONE THE HOF????


bash him all you want..i dont see the LAKERS winning ANY other way than KOBE scoring 30 a night..thats FACT....... he's doing whats necessary to WIN..... hate all you want...if we are above .500 then let him shoot...you guys dont see that...all you see is ego..i see WINNING...when he drops 81 and WE LOSE then stop shooting...but when our other players averag close to twenty then say something.... he passes ..watch the games....... you guys are sticking up for MIHM..SMUSH....SASHA...these guys are nowhere near...MARION... SHAQ... HUGHES.... YAO.....give me a break.....

 

[Alpha and Omega]

first of all jordan had pippen...give kobe pippen and we'll see this team flourish..... secondly what other 2 gaurd during jordan's era was remotely as good as the competition KOBE has..tmac...IVerson..wade...lebron.... no talent pool close to that in the 90's....thirdly MAGIC BIRD...STOCKTON..had a legit team..... the bench riders in the 80's lakers coulda started anywhere in the league ..and bird had MCHALE. parrish, ainge...alll solid players couple even hall of famers.... who on the lakers WILL EVEN MAKE AN ALL STAR APPEARANCE LET ALONE THE HOF????


bash him all you want..i dont see the LAKERS winning ANY other way than KOBE scoring 30 a night..thats FACT....... he's doing whats necessary to WIN..... hate all you want...if we are above .500 then let him shoot...you guys dont see that...all you see is ego..i see WINNING...when he drops 81 and WE LOSE then stop shooting...but when our other players averag close to twenty then say something.... he passes ..watch the games....... you guys are sticking up for MIHM..SMUSH....SASHA...these guys are nowhere near...MARION... SHAQ... HUGHES.... YAO.....give me a break.....

Those names should quiet any complaining. why does our team one dimentional. Lamar Odom is 6'10" and he doesn't post up. No.8 has very little in the way of a team to work w/.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am just glad we dumped Brown on you guys and got rid of that problem.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

It's still Nash, Kobe and Chauncey

Nash and Chauncey's teams have done incredible given all that they were coming into the season with

 

[DarthRekal]

It's still Nash, Kobe and Chauncey

Nash and Chauncey's teams have done incredible given all that they were coming into the season with

at least your not delusional ...LUDA......

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Last night was the craziest night in the NBA.......**** the NFL

the pistons-rockets game with T-Mac's 43 and the Pistons surviving in that close win

the Sixers-Wolves did you see Dre's game winning shot

and Kobe's 81 of course

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Last night was the craziest night in the NBA.......**** the NFL

the pistons-rockets game with T-Mac's 43 and the Pistons surviving in that close win

the Sixers-Wolves did you see Dre's game winning shot

and Kobe's 81 of course

Don't exclude that Seattle/Phoenix game! 152-149 w/ the buzzer-beater by Ray Allen in double overtime. It was the highest scoring game in 11 years.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Oh and that Double OT game between Suns and Sonics 152-149 with Ray Allen hitting the game winning shot?!

No Question last night was the best night in the NBA like ever...

 

[DarthRekal]

Oh and that Double OT game between Suns and Sonics 152-149 with Ray Allen hitting the game winning shot?!

No Question last night was the best night in the NBA like ever...

NO DOUBT!

 

[Super_Ludacris]

This whole week's gonna be crazy
Underworld on Saturday seeing Kate Beckinsale naked (w00t)
the NFL last night
The NBA last night
Nas is on Def Jam
My Birthday tommorrow
Lana finding out Clark's secret and then possibly getting killed off Smallville ( *bumps Keith Sweat's "Why girl" )
and I gotta sweat to get this ***** ass assignment for college done for Monday....How the hell am I suppose to concentrate. **** faith for doing this lol

 

[Stringer]

Single greatest individual performance even seen in the NBA and we actually have the footage to prove it happened. Kobe Bryant 81 freakin points

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Single greatest individual performance even seen in the NBA and we actually have the footage to prove it happened. Kobe Bryant 81 freakin points

Precisely what I mean. The only person who has scored more is Wilt Chamberlain who scored 100 points. According to MJ' s theory, a guard has a more difficult time scoring. He has ball duties, and plays defense in a much larger area, in addition to scoring on offense. An exhorbitant amount of energy is required. What Kobe did was incredible. He scored 81 points, and he still played defense, and he had a few assists. It was the best sole performance I've ever seen, and I've witnessed a lot of them: live and on ESPN classic.

The only other player who has a chance to do that is Tracy Mcgrady, but he has average defensive skills. Maybe Lebron will do this same thing one day.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Precisely what I mean. The only person who has scored more is Wilt Chamberlain who scored 100 points. According to MJ' s theory, a guard has a more difficult time scoring. He has ball duties, and plays defense in a much larger area, in addition to scoring on offense. An exhorbitant amount of energy is required. What Kobe did was incredible. He scored 81 points, and he still played defense, and he had a few assists. It was the best sole performance I've ever seen, and I've witnessed a lot of them: live and on ESPN classic.

The only other player who has a chance to do that is Tracy Mcgrady, but he has average defensive skills. Maybe Lebron will do this same thing one day.

a few is more then 2 Kobe had 2 assists.

 

[DarthRekal]

how many assists did MJ have when he scored 69??? how many did wilt have when he scored 78? 73? 100?....cant judge him by assists....when your carrying a team you're doing just that...CARRYING....

 

[Alpha and Omega]

a few is more then 2 Kobe had 2 assists.

Few means: not many, but more than one.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

when Jordan did his he wasn't even in his prime and did on Bird and his team which is someething very very very hard to do. Now you mean to tell me Kobe could do the same to that team??? I dont think so.

 

[Alpha and Omega]

when Jordan did his he wasn't even in his prime and did on Bird and his team which is someething very very very hard to do. Now you mean to tell me Kobe could do the same to that team??? I dont think so.

Michael Jordan scored 63 in that game against Larry Bird and the Celtics. His high of 69 was on the Clevland Cavaliers in his prime, correct?

Aside from that, Larry Bird and the Celtics weren't known for their defensive skill. They were an offensive team like Phoenix. They could play defense, but it wasn't their specialty.

 

[DarthRekal]

too cut 19 pts off his total against birds celtics yeah i think its possible.... still didnt answer how many assists he had???????

kobes 27...is that his prime???? when did jordan when his first ring????? not at 27 i can tell you that....

 

[DarthRekal]

Michael Jordan scored 63 in that game against Larry Bird and the Celtics. His high of 69 was on the Clevland Cavaliers in his prime, correct?

i believe this to be a true statement.... and lebron wasnt on the cavs at the time either

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

you are right and here was his stats from that game

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/sports/basketball/032990bkn-jordan.html

Jordan made 23 of 37 field-goal attempts and 21 of 23 foul shots. He also had a career-high 18 rebounds, plus 6 assists and 4 steals.


Now out of that Jordan still passed the ball four more times then Kobe pulled more rebounds then him and had one more steal then him.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah but Jordan didn't have Shaq

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

As a matter of fact when has Kobe pulled 18 rebounds?

 

[DarthRekal]

you are right and here was his stats from that game

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/sports/basketball/032990bkn-jordan.html

Jordan made 23 of 37 field-goal attempts and 21 of 23 foul shots. He also had a career-high 18 rebounds, plus 6 assists and 4 steals.


Now out of that Jordan still passed the ball four more times then Kobe pulled more rebounds then him and had one more steal then him.

jordan also had pippen..ho grant .... steve kerr... john paxson..... ron harper..id take anyone of those over any of the lakers now...tell me those cats aint gonna hit a shot.... do the box scores tell you how many times kobe passed it??? or how many times his TEAMMATES MADE IT?????

 

[DarthRekal]

when was the last time jordan..scored 81????????

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

jordan also had pippen..ho grant .... steve kerr... john paxson..... ron harper..id take anyone of those over any of the lakers now...tell me those cats aint gonna hit a shot.... do the box scores tell you how many times kobe passed it??? or how many times his TEAMMATES MADE IT?????

Jordan could have passed the ball more then that. The assist just tells you when they made the basket off of the player passing the ball. Jordan has more faith in his team then Kobe before Pippen and even now when he was with washington. Jordan understands there is no I in team Kobe has yet to learn that. I am not taking anything away from him I just think he needs to work more with his team. I mean he is a great player but if you guys really want to start wining games he has to help out his team instead because he is going to be there for a while and most of the players in the NBA doesn't care to much for him in order to get a great team for the Lakers either Kobe is going to have to change the way he plays and share the ball or your going to have to trade him.