2014 NFL thread: Down and Dirty - Part 1

[W/ Great Power]

Can't wait for the Broncos/Seahawks game this weekend. It should have been on primetime.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Wow. That actually is some BS if true.

If he used a racial slur or threatened to hurt someone's family, he should have been flagged. Outside of those two scenarios, I can't imagine what kind of language was penalty-worthy.

 

[Warhammer]

Can't wait for the Broncos/Seahawks game this weekend. It should have been on primetime.

Luckily for me, I get to see that game and then watch my Steelers play in primetime. It's going to be an AWESOME seven hours of football.

If he used a racial slur or threatened to hurt someone's family, he should have been flagged. Outside of those two scenarios, I can't imagine what kind of language was penalty-worthy.

Very true. A "motherf***er" or "son of a b****" isn't worthy of a flag. Nowhere close. The interesting thing is that if Kaepernick got flagged for saying the N word, it isn't racist at all. Don't get me wrong. Nobody should be saying it ever, but it's still an interesting tidbit.

 

[W/ Great Power]

Luckily for me, I get to see that game and then watch my Steelers play in primetime. It's going to be an AWESOME seven hours of football.

That's also another great game I'm looking forward to! It should be interesting how the AFC North plays out this year.

 

[Warhammer]

Yeah, the AFC North is definitely interesting right now. Who knows who will win that division?

 

[W/ Great Power]

Yeah, the AFC North is definitely interesting right now. Who knows who will win that division?

All I know is, the Bengals have one hell of a defense. The rest of the division is catching a big break with A.J. Green being out (for how many games is he gone?).

But at the same time, the Steelers and Ravens are two teams that can be streaky if they start playing well. It's a toss-up, really.

I doubt many people are betting their money on that division.

 

[Warhammer]

This is one of the reasons why the NFL is so great. It's any given Sunday.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think the one team you can count out is my Browns. May have beaten the Saints sunday, but I have zero faith in them.

 

[W/ Great Power]

This is one of the reasons why the NFL is so great. It's any given Sunday.

Exactly.

Do you think Kirk Cousins can get the job done against the Eagles?

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I think the one team you can count out is my Browns. May have beaten the Saints sunday, but I have zero faith in them.

If they can beat Baltimore next week, they have a bye and then a stretch of easy games up until the Bengals. Never say never

 

[Spider-Fan]

If they can beat Baltimore next week, they have a bye and then a stretch of easy games up until the Bengals. Never say never

It's the Browns. It is ALWAYS never.

 

[Superman Earth1]

Exactly.

Do you think Kirk Cousins can get the job done against the Eagles?

yes

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

So Reggie Bush hits his one year old daughter? I am sure she is learning a lot from it. One good thing about this situation. The horrible human beings in the NFL are revealing themselves.

Read the article. He said he would in the future if the situation arises.

 

[Warhammer]

Exactly.

Do you think Kirk Cousins can get the job done against the Eagles?

I'm going to be honest. I think Cousins looks so good because RGIII is simply so bad. Cousins will have to prove that he's actually a decent QB because running up the score on Jacksonville last week or the one or two games he played last season doesn't hold much weight. Philadelphia will tear that ass up.

It's the Browns. It is ALWAYS never.

 

[W/ Great Power]

yes

Is there any particular reason you think so?

I see you are from Northern VA like I am.

I'm going to be honest. I think Cousins looks so good because RGIII is simply so bad. Cousins will have to prove that he's actually a decent QB because running up the score on Jacksonville last week or the one or two games he played last season doesn't hold much weight. Philadelphia will tear that ass up.

I don't mean to be biased, but a lot of people agree that RG3 was doing good until he went out in that game. That's what's actually bothering people the most; the aspect of the unknown, how we might never know if he turned the corner that day. However, the Jags as an opponent can't be taken that seriously, and he had a mediocre performance against a good Houston defense.

In terms of Cousins, I think he can't be complacent because the game against the Eagles is the real make or break factor if he wants to actually take RG3's spot.

I'm worried after watching what the Eagles did against the Colts, but maybe the Colts paid the price of being too conservative. It'll be interesting nonetheless.

 

[Warhammer]

Carolina Panthers right now...

 

[Warhammer]

I don't mean to be biased, but a lot of people agree that RG3 was doing good until he went out in that game. That's what's actually bothering people the most; the aspect of the unknown, how we might never know if he turned the corner that day. However, the Jags as an opponent can't be taken that seriously, and he had a mediocre performance against a good Houston defense.

In terms of Cousins, I think he can't be complacent because the game against the Eagles is the real make or break factor if he wants to actually take RG3's spot.

I'm worried after watching what the Eagles did against the Colts, but maybe the Colts paid the price of being too conservative. It'll be interesting nonetheless.

Yeah, this is Cousins' time to shine. It couldn't have been any more perfect for him. RG3 gets taken out a week before playing the undefeated division rival? If Cousins plays well, he will be that much closer to being the undisputed starter. If not, RG3 will be back for better or for worse.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Carolina Panthers right now...

ESPN will be acting the same way if Hardy is found innocent for the amount of garbage they're talking about the organization and Greg. Oh wait, no they won't. They'll just pretend like it didn't happen.

On the bright side, our players won't need extra motivation this Sunday. Just keep jabbing away, ESPN.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Peterson and Hardy gone, as they should be. Yeah, the NFL owners are shook. So much backtracking and changing of their minds. All because they are scared of Budweiser, not because it is the right thing.

Oh well, you take what you can get.

Read the article. He said he would in the future if the situation arises.

I did. It can be a bit confusing because he switches between present and future tense, but he admits he has "disciplined" his daughter already.

Then he tries to cover up what he is saying as he goes along, realizing what he just admitted.

Detroit Lions running back Reggie Bush made the media rounds on Tuesday. In hindsight, that may have been a bad idea.

The former USC star did a handful of interviews as part of a sponsor campaign with Taco Bell. However, one interview with WFAN might have sports fans and media talking about anything but the Taco Bell program.

Bush appeared on WFAN's "Boomer and Carton" where he was, of course, asked about the Adrian Peterson child abuse allegations. Bush talked himself into a pretzel with a couple head-scratching comments about the situation.

The most controversial centered around Bush's own parenting habits.

"I most definitely discipline my daughter," he said on WFAN. "I have a 1-year-old daughter, and I discipline her.

"I definitely will try to -- will obviously not leave bruises or anything like that on her," Bush continued. "But I definitely will discipline her harshly depending on what the situation is."

Bush also admitted he'd "possibly consider" using a switch to discipline his daughter, but he quickly backtracked and insisted he was only talking about spanking.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...iscipline-daughter-if-situation-arises-091614

 

[DarthSkywalker]

ESPN will be acting the same way if Hardy is found innocent for the amount of garbage they're talking about the organization and Greg. Oh wait, no they won't. They'll just pretend like it didn't happen.

On the bright side, our players won't need extra motivation this Sunday. Just keep jabbing away, ESPN.

You do realize he can't be found innocent right? The prosecutors may not be able to prove their case again, but he can't be found innocent, and he has already been found guilty once.

Anyway you play it, there is enough against Hardy to believe he did this, no matter what the jury says. Kind of like OJ.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

You do realize he can't be found innocent right? The prosecutors may not be able to prove their case again, but he can't be found innocent, and he has already been found guilty once.

Anyway you play it, there is enough against Hardy to believe he did this, no matter what the jury says. Kind of like OJ.

Except they didn't prove anything in the first place. Greg walked in and the judge handed him a verdict in just 10 minutes. He wasn't allowed to present his evidence or his side whatsoever.

Hardy is gaining more and more support daily (check out Reddit). Holder's story isn't holding up and there are no witnesses.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Except they didn't prove anything in the first place. Greg walked in and the judge handed him a verdict in just 10 minutes. He wasn't allowed to present his evidence or his side whatsoever.

Hardy is gaining more and more support daily (check out Reddit). Holder's story isn't holding up and there are no witnesses.

Reddit is your bastion of morality and law? Really? t:

And I am pretty sure you are wrong about the first trial. If it was only a ten minute trial, with a verdict handed out in that time, how did they have any testimony?

This situation at the best for Hardy, is horrible decision making that got him caught up with the law. There is no apology to be had for him, as that is happening to him is his fault. If he decided to date a crazy woman, and instead of leaving his place when things got heated, he did anything else it is his fault.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Reddit is your bastion of morality and law? Really? t:

And I am pretty sure you are wrong about the first trial. If it was only a ten minute trial, with a verdict handed out in that time, how did they have any testimony?

This situation at the best for Hardy, is horrible decision making that got him caught up with the law. There is no apology to be had for him, as that is happening to him is his fault. If he decided to date a crazy woman, and instead of leaving his place when things got heated, he did anything else it is his fault.

Testimony? Holder didn't even show up to court. Read over the case details again. It was just Hardy, his lawyer, Holder's lawyers and the judge. There's a reason why Voth and Jones are sticking their necks out for Hardy.

Again, yes, he put himself in this situation by surrounding himself with a possibly crazy chick but he deserves a fair trial.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Testimony? Holder didn't even show up to court. Read over the case details again. It was just Hardy, his lawyer, Holder's lawyers and the judge. There's a reason why Voth and Jones are sticking their necks out for Hardy.

Again, yes, he put himself in this situation by surrounding himself with a possibly crazy chick but he deserves a fair trial.

And what about him sitting at home instead of playing football means that isn't gonna happen? His missing games is his fault either way. But as long as he is getting paid, there is nothing for him to cry about in regards to his employment. It is standard business practices is many an organization.

And if there is no testimony, how did they get these quotes?

http://blackandbluereview.com/hardy-quotes/

And explain this...

From start to finish, Greg Hardy’s domestic violence trial lasted 10 hours and five minutes. The timeline below highlights the most important moments of a day that turned the Charlotte Mecklenburg County Courthouse into a real-life soap opera set.

http://blackandbluereview.com/hardy-timeline/

Maybe I am confused, but that doesn't sound like 10 mins too me. It also shows that Holder showed up and testified. So did Hardy.

DoomsdayApex, it is almost like you are making things up to defend him at this point.

 

[Donut]

The list is growing

Cardinals RB Jonathan Dwyer was arrested in a domestic violence incident