2014 NFL thread: The Final Battle

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No fans is strong way to put it. A lot of NEW fans for sure though. It was quite a bland ignored team from what I remember.


This. And I was a Seahawks fan dating back to the early 90's. I was a kid then living in Seattle at that time. I remember going to the games in the Kingdome and for sure that era was very depressing for us fans. But since Holmgren arrived, the Seahawks started climbing up the ladder and now I couldn't be any more happier than the state we're in.
 
Interesting clash of playoff shrinking violets. Either Manning or Luck...one of them had to win. Luck threw his usual int's at the other team but it wasn't enough this time. Manning just might be done.

I'm still not sold on Luck. I fully expect more int's next week.

DarthSkywalker said:
Except Peyton has had some really mediocre to bad defenses and plenty of crap O-lines. I know, I have watched every game he has ever played in the NFL.
Does Tony Romo get to use that excuse? He's spent his whole career playing behind subpar lines with teams that were built by Jerry Jones and coached by coaches hired by Jerry Jones. :wow:

I'm thinking Romo would have won at least one SB by now if he played for a team like the Broncos, Green Bay, or NE.
Agreed. When will the excuses stop? All he supposedly never had in Indy, he has in Denver. Solid defense, good running game and even more receivers. And he still folds up time and again. He's great but he's a robot.

No spontaneity or ingenuity to his game. Knock his timing off with his receivers or pressure him and he's done. He's reluctant to hang in the pocket and take a hit to deliver a strike, and he's not gonna throw on the run. If the play doesn't go exactly to plan, you got him. That's the one difference between him and Luck and why I believe Andrew will live up to the hype, eventually. He's not afraid to improvise or make something happen out of chaos, most of his career so far has consisted of that. In the playoffs, that's the mentality that wins...
Not to mention his "boy genius" thing where he's just gotta change the play most of the time at the line. That's fine for him....but I guess he never thinks about the fact that he has 10 teammates who have to process a new play at the last minute (less time than he has), adjust routes, blocking schemes....and not make a mistake. It got them bit hard on the first play of the SB last year. The first play...and Manning couldn't walk out there and run the play that was called. Nope...he had to play genius and throw a new play at 10 teammates who had just taken the field for the first play of the friggin' Super Bowl. Great idea there, Manning. What could go wrong?

His act works great in the regular season, but the playoffs are a higher level with better competition that demands a team play mistake-free. Manning's style forces his teammates to spend precious seconds thinking when other teams are thinking about what the defense is doing and how they can react to that.

Godzilla2000 said:
I think this image shows why the Refs made the call that they made overturning Dallas' play as an incomplete pass. You can see the Receiver did not have that ball tucked in his hands the way it should be to be considered a complete pass.
Except that pic only shows the end. Hard to imagine he was reaching for the endzone if he didn't have the ball in his control.

But just like last week, that one play wasn't the reason they lost. A good start would be to not fumble so much? How about a pass rush? Just a thought. Last week Lions fans didn't want to talk about their team only scoring 6 points after the 1st quarter and making a ton of mistakes so I guess Cowboys fans will do the same this week.

Or are Cowboys fans allowed to act like Lions fans last week? :STR:

Best part is how this makes all the fans look really foolish who claimed the NFL tries to help the Cowboys win. This may not stop them though...they didn't notice all the plays that went against the Cowboys last week either. (including another one that took actual points off the scoreboard)

Before anyone gets too crazy about Rodgers, he was facing a team that has almost no pass rush and still only put up 26 points. He'd better be a lot better next week.

At some point, fans are going to have to acknowledge that QB in Seattle. I won't be surprised one bit if he outplays all the "elite QB's" who are left.
 
I didn't realize the Manning set another NFL record: Most career playoff losses in NFL History - 13 :meanie:
 
Oh...on the subject of QB's getting old.

Tony Romo? The guy was not expected to make it through this season intact with that bad back.
 
The Cowboys fans complaining about Dez Bryant's catch today were the same ones saying "One play doesn't define an entire game" last week.
 
It is not. :argh:

My Brady man crush is too strong :csad:

The Cowboys fans complaining about Dez Bryant's catch today were the same ones saying "One play doesn't define an entire game" last week.

Agreed, but at same time I hate seeing another game decided like that. Refs should be invisible come the end of a game.
 
The Cowboys fans complaining about Dez Bryant's catch today were the same ones saying "One play doesn't define an entire game" last week.
Lie. I've seen mostly realistic fans, disappointed the season is over but agreeing the call was by rule book.
 
Pats and Colts again. Sweet. Let's go pattys!
 
I motion that we stop calling New England the Pats.

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The Cowboys fans complaining about Dez Bryant's catch today were the same ones saying "One play doesn't define an entire game" last week.
Same statement applies in reverse too. Everyone commenting last week just changed sides this week. Hypocrisy is not relegated to one fan base.

Most of the statements I see are like mine. "I thought it was a good catch...but that isn't the reason they lost".
 
Agreed, but at same time I hate seeing another game decided like that. Refs should be invisible come the end of a game.

Oh, you mean like in the Tuck Rule game? ;)

The problem with refs becoming invisible at the end of the game is that it allows for teams to get away with too much. The refs became invisible in the last minutes of the 49ers/Ravens Super Bowl and it might have cost the Niners the game. If the league were to institute a rule that the refs absolutely cannot throw flags in the last two minutes and that coaches can't challenge anything, then teams all over the league would pull every dirty trick possible to win the game.
 
Oh, you mean like in the Tuck Rule game? ;)

The problem with refs becoming invisible at the end of the game is that it allows for teams to get away with too much. The refs became invisible in the last minutes of the 49ers/Ravens Super Bowl and it might have cost the Niners the game. If the league were to institute a rule that the refs absolutely cannot throw flags in the last two minutes and that coaches can't challenge anything, then teams all over the league would pull every dirty trick possible to win the game.

The tuck rule is a rule that sucks, too.
 
Agreed. When will the excuses stop? All he supposedly never had in Indy, he has in Denver. Solid defense, good running game and even more receivers. And he still folds up time and again. He's great but he's a robot.

No spontaneity or ingenuity to his game. Knock his timing off with his receivers or pressure him and he's done. He's reluctant to hang in the pocket and take a hit to deliver a strike, and he's not gonna throw on the run. If the play doesn't go exactly to plan, you got him. That's the one difference between him and Luck and why I believe Andrew will live up to the hype, eventually. He's not afraid to improvise or make something happen out of chaos, most of his career so far has consisted of that. In the playoffs, that's the mentality that wins...

Does Tony Romo get to use that excuse? He's spent his whole career playing behind subpar lines with teams that were built by Jerry Jones and coached by coaches hired by Jerry Jones. :wow:

I'm thinking Romo would have won at least one SB by now if he played for a team like the Broncos, Green Bay, or NE.

Not to mention his "boy genius" thing where he's just gotta change the play most of the time at the line. That's fine for him....but I guess he never thinks about the fact that he has 10 teammates who have to process a new play at the last minute (less time than he has), adjust routes, blocking schemes....and not make a mistake. It got them bit hard on the first play of the SB last year. The first play...and Manning couldn't walk out there and run the play that was called. Nope...he had to play genius and throw a new play at 10 teammates who had just taken the field for the first play of the friggin' Super Bowl. Great idea there, Manning. What could go wrong?

His act works great in the regular season, but the playoffs are a higher level with better competition that demands a team play mistake-free. Manning's style forces his teammates to spend precious seconds thinking when other teams are thinking about what the defense is doing and how they can react to that.

I have to say that with all due respect to Manning, I agree with all of the above. Torn quad and all.
 
Yep. Every time Manning loses in the playoffs, the talking heads come out of the woodwork to blame everyone and everything but him. His supporting cast wasn't any good! His coach sucks! He was injured! It was a total team failure! I never see other quarterbacks afforded the same courtesy when they come out flat and their team loses.


Also, this is a headline on NFL.com today:

Bills hire Rex Ryan as next coach | Will QB woes be his undoing?

No. QB woes will not be Rex Ryan's undoing. The fact that Rex Ryan is a horrible coach who is good for nothing but sound bites will be his undoing.
 
No fans is strong way to put it. A lot of NEW fans for sure though. It was quite a bland ignored team from what I remember.

I admit I am one of these casual fairweather fans. Being born in Vancouver, I pretty much grew up on Seattle sports teams (still a OKC Thunder fan, and the Mariners are my MLB team, not the Blue Jays) and I guess I rooted for the Seahawks out of default, but the NFL never really interested me that much, and of course the Seahawks were kind of a whole lot of nothing for some time. But I have been watching them in the playoffs.
 
Peyton doesn't need defending. Haters can hate all they want, he is still easily top 5, even if you hate him.
 
I'll say this for Manning. At least he kept Rex Grossman from winning a Super Bowl. We do owe him thanks for that.
 
Ramblings are starting about Ron Rivera's job security.

Good. Make sure you take Shula's incompetent ass with you, Ronnie! Four years wasted in developing and building any type of offense for Cam that doesn't require him to be a RB.
 
Yeah, if there are rumblings about John Fox possibly getting fired in Denver, then Rivera's seat should be at least a little bit hot, even though they did make the playoffs and win a game.
 
Ron likely will land a DC job immediately. That's for sure. Same thing with Fox. I doubt he'll get a HC gig again though. Rivera is not made for it. In three out of four seasons, our offense has been ranked in the 20s, and our special teams found nearly dead last each year statistically.
 
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