2016 Is Going To Be A Massive Year

[The Endless]

2016 is the first year to feature all the Big Three iconic superheroes though (Superman, Batman, Spider-Man).

I'd say Iron Man may have over taken Spidey there in all honesty. IM3 made nearly as much as the Avengers. The rise in cultural significance IM has made in a relatively short time has been staggering really.

 

[souvlaki]

I'd say Iron Man may have over taken Spidey there in all honesty. IM3 made nearly as much as the Avengers. The rise in cultural significance IM has made in a relatively short time has been staggering really.

I think you are mistaking the popularity for Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man for the popularity of Iron Man as a character. Let's see how Iron Man does after he leaves the role before changing 50 years of cultural relevance. Spider-Man will always be the most identifiable Marvel character and a part of the big 3 and I don't think the gross of a few films is going to change that.

 

[The Endless]

Yea i can see that point of view. Spidey is still the flagship character for Marvel I agree. But i still think that right now, IM is a bigger draw to the masses than Spidey, in regards to the movies at least.

 

[jacobed]

Eh IM3 would have never made a billion if it wasn't for Avengers. It would have made right around where the Spiderman movies make

 

[The Endless]

Would the Avengers have made a billion if it weren't for IM and RDJs involvement? IM3 would have still made around 800 million regardless of Avengers I think.

 

[souvlaki]

Spider-Man adjusted for inflation and 3-D domestically blows Iron Man 3 away. Can't really count overseas totals considering how much the foreign market has expanded since 2002. I just don't think comparing a reboot to a very popular series made only 10 years after the first film is a fair comparison to a continuation to a popular series and the highest grossing superhero film ever. If Iron-Man did a hard reboot like Spider-Man did so soon after Iron Man 3 I guarantee it would probably gross about half what ASM did. Like I said you are mistaking Iron Man's popularity for RDJ's popularity.

 

[The Endless]

You think a rebooted IM wouldn't make 400 million? I strongly disagree. But it's impossible to tell until it actually happens.

 

[souvlaki]

A hard reboot like ASM 10 years after the first film? Not a chance. Iron Man 3 barely made it to $400 million as it was, with 3-D I might add.

 

[The Endless]

Oh you are just talking about US box office? I was thinking worldwide.

 

[souvlaki]

Hell, I'd argue even a soft reboot too soon after RDJ leaving would struggle. He is Iron Man to a lot of people, especially since his portrayal was many peoples' introduction to the character. I think people are a lot more willing to accept a new actor as Batman, Spider-Man or Superman than they are to a character they didn't even know existed 10 years ago.

 

[souvlaki]

Oh you are just talking about US box office? I was thinking worldwide.

Well, it's pointless to compare domestic totals versus worldwide totals when talking about the peak popularity of both Spider-Man and Iron Man. Like I mentioned, the overseas market, specifically China has inflated totals to a ridiculous amount in only 10 years. If Spider-Man came out today the foreign total would have been insane.

 

[The Endless]

Fair points. I'm interested to see how well TASM2 does financially. And obviously i hope it's better than the first one, which left me underwhelmed.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think TASM left everyone underwhelmed lol.

 

[souvlaki]

I liked it but I went into it with very, very low expectations and was completely against the reboot in the first place. Conversely I was underwhelmed by the Avengers but I waited until it came out on bluray after everyone had been talking it up to be the best superhero film ever. I'm probably in the minority who feels outside the first Iron Man movie other studios have produced better Marvel films than Marvel has.

 

[Shikamaru]

Spider-Man adjusted for inflation and 3-D domestically blows Iron Man 3 away. Can't really count overseas totals considering how much the foreign market has expanded since 2002. I just don't think comparing a reboot to a very popular series made only 10 years after the first film is a fair comparison to a continuation to a popular series and the highest grossing superhero film ever. If Iron-Man did a hard reboot like Spider-Man did so soon after Iron Man 3 I guarantee it would probably gross about half what ASM did. Like I said you are mistaking Iron Man's popularity for RDJ's popularity.

Spider-Man adjusted for inflation and 3D is just slightly below TDK.

 

[souvlaki]

Spider-Man adjusted for inflation and 3D is just slightly below TDK.

Yeah, I checked a few minutes after posting that and was surprised how high it was.

I'm not as big a fan of the first Spider-Man film anymore. The cgi is very dated and there are some really cheesy moments in there (still love the second film however and it is still one of the best superhero films ever made imo), but it is remarkable just how well that movie performed considering it was not a sequel. That alone proves Spider-Man will always be in the top 3.

 

[The Endless]

The first Spider-Man film was like an event, similar to Batman 89 i imagine. Although i was too young to experience that myself.

 

[Warhammer]

2013 was an exhaustive year; there were a few points during the summer when I wished the studios had provided some breathing room, and just released forgettable films, instead of blockbusters. Hell, I had to bail on seeing films on the theater-and that hurt-just because I couldn't cough up $15 again. Hence, I had to catch the films on the home media market. 2015 is definitely going to be a year of alternating between the film and the Blu-Ray market.

In a way, I'm more excited about 2016 because there are three major films (tentatively) and that's it.

Summer 2013 sucked. May and June were stacked then the season fell off after The Lone Ranger.

 

[Marvin]

Iron man 2's numbers vs Iron man 3's numbers says it all to me.

I'm not sure how second to third sequels numbers usually compare with big films, especially when it comes to opening numbers(even Raimi spidey), but IM clearly has a huge jump and it's clearly due to Joss Whedon existing. That doesn't change the reality of what is now, and that is, his films are currently a huge draw.

For now.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Amazing Spider Man was and is underwhelming. Don't get me wrong I love Spidey but that movie was meh. It's the definition of unesscary reboot to be honest. Sam Rami's SM1 still isn't that long ago and this reboot hit every beat it hit with lesser results. Besides Spider Man is one of the most popular and superheroes today.

Even people that have never read a comic book in their life know his origin story so movie studios don't need to do another spidey origin film for many many years if ever. I felt they should have just started a new trilogy with Spiderman with something like AMS 2. And did the origin stuff in the title sequence like the Incredible Hulk 2008 reboot/sequel.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I think you are mistaking the popularity for Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man for the popularity of Iron Man as a character. Let's see how Iron Man does after he leaves the role before changing 50 years of cultural relevance. Spider-Man will always be the most identifiable Marvel character and a part of the big 3 and I don't think the gross of a few films is going to change that.

Spidey will always be Marvel, Inc's flagship character but that doesn't mean the character is destined to continuously top the box office. Look at Hulk, that's Marvel's second most recognizable character but two of his three cinematic outings didn't do well. As of right now Iron Man is a more profitable cinematic brand than Spidey. 50 years or 100 years of popularity doesn't mean much if the films based on that character aren't well received.

 

[souvlaki]

The first Spider-Man film was like an event, similar to Batman 89 i imagine. Although i was too young to experience that myself.

I have never seen anything in my lifetime compared to Batmania in '89. Even movies that grossed far more didn't imprint themselves on popular culture or had the merchandising power that that movie did. Only thing close I can remember is Jurassic Park, and oddly enough, Titanic (minus the merchandising part). That was definitely a different era.

 

[bluerayer]

True, superhero movies aren't that special anymore. I remember a magical time in history...a time when it could go years before we got a new one

And I also remember watching Superfriends in swedish, and Batman was called Läderlappen. Where I live he was called Lynvingen.

"Stålmannen vs Läderlappen: Lex Luthor och den stora skattjakten"t:

Ah yes, i remember those days, back when Swamp Thing was called:

 

[Poni_Boy]

I have never seen anything in my lifetime compared to Batmania in '89. Even movies that grossed far more didn't imprint themselves on popular culture or had the merchandising power that that movie did. Only thing close I can remember is Jurassic Park, and oddly enough, Titanic (minus the merchandising part). That was definitely a different era.

Hah the good old days. I agree. Batmania and JP were all encompassing. Everyone I knew was talking about those movies constantly. Family, friends, teachers. We even took a field trip to see JP in theaters. Don't think I'll ever see anything like that again in the movie biz. Glad I was around for those two

 

[mclay18]

I don't know if I'd call Jurassic Park or Terminator huge franchises anymore.

Terminator Salvation only made $125 million, which was good for #23 at the box office that year. It's a series that continues to have diminishing returns and creatively doesn't seem to know where to go.

Jurassic Park, in my mind is a dead franchise, it'll be 14 years since the last movie. Will anyone care by the time it comes out? Especially if there's a Pixar dinosaur movie it'll go up against.

The Good Dinosaur doesn't hit theaters until Thanksgiving 2015... about five months removed from Jurassic World. It'll be fine.