6 year old shoots dead his 3 year old brother with Fathers unlocked and loaded pistol

[CyclopsWasRight]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shooting-violence-20151017-story.html

year-old boy, who was one of two people killed in city shootings since Saturday night, was accidentally shot by his 6-year-old brother while the two were playing cops and robbers, according to police.

The boy, whom authorities identified as Eian Santiago, was at a residence about 9:05 p.m. in the 1000 block of North Francisco Avenue in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on the West Side when his 6-year-old brother got hold of a revolver and shot him in the head.

According to Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi, the two had been playing "cops and robbers" when the 6-year-old saw the handgun atop a refrigerator, took it and fired it in the direction of his brother. Guglielmi could not further describe the weapon other than saying it was a handgun.

Lost for words on reading this

 

[PЯOVOSҬ]

Sad.....

 

[Duke]

Tragic.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

This is sad, and it makes me angry.
After all these years of incidents as such, gun manufacturers did not learn to make the trigger hard to pull for a 6 years old?
Easy for an 18 years old, hard on a 15 years, and less, even with safety mechanism unlocked.

 

[Spider-Who?]

That's not how it works.

And it isn't the manufacturer's fault. It's the fathers for leaving a loaded gun in a house with children. It's the father's fault for not keeping the gun in a safe. It's the father's fault for not teaching his children that guns are not toys. It's the father's fault a child is dead, not the manufacturer's.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

That's not how it works.

I think it's time to consider it.

And it isn't the manufacturer's fault. It's the fathers for leaving a loaded gun in a house with children. It's the father's fault for not keeping the gun in a safe. It's the father's fault for not teaching his children that guns are not toys. It's the father's fault a child is dead, not the manufacturer's.

I don't blame them for how the parent handled and placed the weapon, or what the parents did or did not teach the children.
I think it's time for manufacturers to consider more satisfactory safety measures.

 

[Micromind]

wide spread availability of Guns and ease of getting a gun license (or a permit whatever it is called in US) makes it easier for less trained people (as in how to handle guns) to get their hands on it, resulting in such incidents.

I think gun sale and issuing a license should be drastically and severely restricted.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I think it's time to consider it.

Adjusting the trigger pull of a gun so that somehow a child could not fire it is a magical fix. Magic, because it does not account for reality and physics.

I don't blame them for how the parent handled and placed the weapon, or what the parents did or did not teach the children.
I think it's time for manufacturers to consider more satisfactory safety measures.

Guns are about as safe as they can be, because by their design, guns are NOT safe. Even with a million safety measures, guns are only as safe as the owner treats them. THAT is the problem. All the safety measures built into a gun don't mean a damn thing if the owner is an idiot.

I'm really ****ing tired of people who know nothing about weapons trying to dictate what "should" be done.

 

[Cobblepot]

Sad..sad..

Let's see how a goodguy with a gun helped stop this gun accident.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Adjusting the trigger pull of a gun so that somehow a child could not fire it is a magical fix. Magic, because it does not account for reality and physics.

I'm sure it's hard to fix in older guns.
It's not impossible for new designs.

Guns are about as safe as they can be, because by their design, guns are NOT safe. Even with a million safety measures, guns are only as safe as the owner treats them. THAT is the problem. All the safety measures built into a gun don't mean a damn thing if the owner is an idiot.

Same can be said about so many things.

I'm really ****ing tired of people who know nothing about weapons trying to dictate what "should" be done.

I don't know guns, but I'm thinking like an engineer.
Gun control debates long entered a spiral of endlessness, and they exhaust both ends of the discussion, I have a different idea.

Sorry if what I post comes out as

 

[PacificBoy]

Sure, gun manufacturers can make firearms smarter and safer, but under the 2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act they're protected from liability litigation and have no incentive to do otherwise.

 

[chaseter]

Sad..sad..

Let's see how a goodguy with a gun helped stop this gun accident.

It won't. This is a classic example of shirking responsibility from the parent to the industry. A kid died in a car wreck...no moar cars.

This is ONLY the parent's fault and he should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

 

[Teelie]

For once this is not a situation where gun laws would have made any difference. Most other times you could argue gun restrictions or limitations might have but in this case the father was beyond negligent. Leaving a loaded weapon where a child can get it is indefensible.

 

[PyroChamber]

What's even more bad is that the father showed his son the gun. You would think a parent would do everything to keep a gun out of their child's hands including not letting the child know they have one.

 

[Victarion]

The father was incredibly irresponsible with his firearm.

 

[Black Narcissus]

That's not how it works.

And it isn't the manufacturer's fault. It's the fathers for leaving a loaded gun in a house with children. It's the father's fault for not keeping the gun in a safe. It's the father's fault for not teaching his children that guns are not toys. It's the father's fault a child is dead, not the manufacturer's.

Yeah, for once it has nothing to do with gun laws etc. Parent is at fault here.

 

[PyroChamber]

And the father was just released on bail today.

 

[BrollySupersj]

The Father deserves all the blame on this one. Stupidly irresponsible.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Tragic. It's a situation that should have been avoided.

 

[Marvolo]

What's even more bad is that the father showed his son the gun. You would think a parent would do everything to keep a gun out of their child's hands including not letting the child know they have one.

Thats a bad idea. If a gun is in the house the parent needs to make sure their child knows its very dangerous and absolutely not a toy and how to safely operate it. That way if by some chance the kid finds it he knows what it is and doesnt play with it like its one of their toys.

My father had a handgun when I was around 7 years old. When my dad brought it home he showed it to me, let me hold it, showed me the safety switch, instructed me how to check it was on, drilled it into my head that the muzzle should never be pointed at me, and showed me how to make sure it wasnt loaded. Then he made sure I knew it wasnt a toy and that I knew that I was never to touch it without him being with me.

And Im still here alive and well and not once did I play with it or even touch it after that. My friends and family who have guns and kids in the same house have all done the same and none of their children have ever got ahold of the gun and shot themselves or anyone else.

Its a matter of making sure the kid knows it isnt a toy, and knows how it works so they dont go fumbling around with it out of curiosity. Also keeping the mag and bullets in another location in the home is a good idea. Not so far apart that it results in the gun being useless in a defensive situation but far enough apart that its harder for the kid to easily get the gun and the mag and ammo. A gun safe helps as well.

Treating a gun like a mysterious hidden object is a quick way to end up with a curious child messing with it. Remove the mystery and there is a lot less curiosity. It also helps if the kid is taken to the range or sees it shot at least once. Believe it or not most young kids do not like it when a gun is fired. It scares them. If they experience it they usually dont go looking for the weapon in the house with the intention of shooting it.

 

[Clark-Kent]

This one isn't about gun control, it's about absentee parenting.

 

[warhorse78]

wide spread availability of Guns and ease of getting a gun license (or a permit whatever it is called in US) makes it easier for less trained people (as in how to handle guns) to get their hands on it, resulting in such incidents.

I think gun sale and issuing a license should be drastically and severely restricted.

I think people should go to classes and have licenses before they become parents.

 

[tzarinna]

I think people should go to classes and have licenses before they become parents.

or it should be mandatory for gun owning parents to take safety classes structured for families.

 

[Holiday]

The father is a dumbass.

 

[Teelie]

I think gun ownership itself should require classes and a license to own but the details in this case aren't clear if the gun was legally owned or not which could have made a difference.