Sequels A Change Is Coming

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Why so harsh rated x, I know deep down inside you want to see this too, dont be scared to admit it. Im only saying what many are feeling and afraid to say it. Nothing can top the DEATH of Superman. :yay:

You've been reading the acclaimed "Death and Return of Superman" series a little too much. Not everyone likes the concept, VM. There was actually an ugly rumor back in the day, when Superman Lives was in production, that Tim Burton was researching the above mentioned story-arc for his project with Nic Cage as Superman. Thank god that never happened. :hyper:
 
The only way to save the Superman Franchise is to let this puppy die, and wait a good 7 or 8 years, and then re-start the entire saga.

Both Smallville, and the terrible SR will be a distant memory by then...
what happens when after 7 years you still dont like the restart? whait another 7 years?
 
Why so harsh rated x, I know deep down inside you want to see this too, dont be scared to admit it. Im only saying what many are feeling and afraid to say it. Nothing can top the DEATH of Superman. :yay:
Sorry man, wasn't really trying to be, but killing Superman in a Superman movie is kinda absurd. :whatever:



You've been reading the acclaimed "Death and Return of Superman" series a little too much. Not everyone likes the concept, VM. There was actually an ugly rumor back in the day, when Superman Lives was in production, that Tim Burton was researching the above mentioned story-arc for his project with Nic Cage as Superman. Thank god that never happened. :hyper:
Thank You. :up:
 
I would prefer something from the past. This is a recount if done right.
 
its pathetic when a director like bryan singer cannot even do fight scenes correctly and the ones he has done have been primitive and rather useless

especially x2

what the sequel needs is a director who understands the character and can utilise his lead actor correctly and fulfil his potential.

Not only that, but fight choreographers should be used to plan out some great action and fist fights

an example is Wesley Snipes who together with his stunt and fight team came up with stunning fight sequences for BLADE and BLADE 2.

then when David goyer gets his way, he ruins what the first 2 movies started, he throws out all Snipes's stunt team and produces some rubbish fight scenes with shoddy camera work for BLADE trinity, quite possibly the worst movie ever seen, although not as bad as Superman Returns.

you can almost guarentee that Singer is going to have some weak, short and shoddy fight scenes that will not do justice to superman.

He simply does not have the mental capacity to understand such basic techniques and methods

its time for a change

hire someone with real talent, like a Del Toro or Raimi

Forget all this "bastard child" offspring storylines and bring us some real action and story

frankly, dan harris and mike dougherty are the worst script writers ever,
sack them now

You're bashing the scriptwriters and all you seem to care about is fight scenes.
 
I wonder why there was no mention of General Zod in that article. Wasn't he thought to be in SR at first? Now he would be a cool villain to have in the sequel.
 
I wonder why there was no mention of General Zod in that article. Wasn't he thought to be in SR at first? Now he would be a cool villain to have in the sequel.

Personally, I think Zod would be a horrible villain to have for a sequel. SR is already compared to S:TM too much as a requel, and Zod in a sequel would have the film to the movie goer thinking too much of Superman II.

The best thing at this point would be to do a retcon and start fresh with no Superson. Having an established Superman is fine, but draw from other sources than S:TM. Sadly, Singer is unlikely to do this, and he's already handicapped the film with Superson. That said, I think if he's going to introduce a villain, it should be someone other than Luthor or Zod. Either one as the primary villain in Superman: TMOS would really hurt the film franchise worse than it already has. People just aren't interested in seeing a rehash of the Donnerverse on-screen. It was fine for its time, but its time belongs to the 70's. Let's move forward.
 
People just aren't interested in seeing a rehash of the Donnerverse on-screen.

I agree with you tere, but the reason I said General Zod was because he was mention as a possible villian in SR, so I don't see why he still wouldn't be concidered for the sequel. Like the guy said, they need a real villain that is a real threat. Zod could be a real threat story-wise. We don't really know if they really died in SM2. As far as we know, Zod & crew only fell 20ft into a foggy mist, climb their way up, entered the chamber and gotten their powers back, and be highly p!st at the son of Jar El. It was just a thought.

We know Lex is coming back, cause Spacey is returning. I can see how Bizarro could work with the blood and krypto island stuff, but I don't know how any other villain is going to work. How are you going to explain them without it turning out kirky.
 
Jason was that.

Actually, I was not referring to that as moving forward. In previous posts, I have made it clear that Jason was a horrible idea. By moving forward, I mean that he should move away from the Donner aspect, and move into a Post-Crisis mode. I would also prefer Singer to take more aspects from other sources of Superman besides the Donner film. If you didn't understand me, I forgive you. I hope I have explained it clearer with this post.
 
Actually, I was not referring to that as moving forward. In previous posts, I have made it clear that Jason was a horrible idea. By moving forward, I mean that he should move away from the Donner aspect, and move into a Post-Crisis mode. I would also prefer Singer to take more aspects from other sources of Superman besides the Donner film. If you didn't understand me, I forgive you. I hope I have explained it clearer with this post.

Now I get you, you want to direct the movie so you can decide specifically what sources and elements can or can't be chosen. Otherwise the movie's ****. It's ok, I forgive you.
 
It's obvious that not all Kryptonians were trapped in the planet when it exploded. With their vast knowledge and ability to explore other galaxies hundreds could be somewhere. Star Trek/Star Wars, being an entire universe but only focused on basic roles... sent his son to Earth to assist humans and make his own safety. Comics have a style, the movies another but I don't see this as an excuse. I judge they're both wrong, time to get serious.
 
It's obvious that not all Kryptonians were trapped in the planet when it exploded. With their vast knowledge and ability to explore other galaxies hundreds could be somewhere. Star Trek/Star Wars, being an entire universe but only focused on basic roles... sent his son to Earth to assist humans and make his own safety. Comics have a style, the movies another but I don't see this as an excuse. I judge they're both wrong, time to get serious.

Well there IS the shrunken City of Kandor.
But if I was Kal El I would never let them out of that bottle. Having a few millions Kryptonians on earth would be no fun, plus he wouldn't be special anymore.
 
They have a culture and beliefs. Kal-El didn't grow on Krypton and perhaps there is a big secret his father and the rest knew. I'd like to speculate. Imagine the universe as a body carrying a virus that causes many different side effects, including Krypton's destruction. An expedition of their people later discover the real menace and they arrive here on Earth with a warning. It seems that our orbit contains the highest environmental level for them to carry out this ultimate operation. I'd leave this to the very end.
 
Jason was that.

How about let's move forward in a way that's actually interesting and will build up the character of Superman instead of tearing him down, and that will focus on him instead of some other useless character.
 
How about let's move forward in a way that's actually interesting and will build up the character of Superman instead of tearing him down, and that will focus on him instead of some other useless character.

Yeah, because everyone I know who's had a child has just been so torn down by it all. No love, pride or joy in child-rearing. Nope.
 
The adventures of superboy are upon us I guess

Oh well, at least there's still spider-man and batman
 
How about let's move forward in a way that's actually interesting and will build up the character of Superman instead of tearing him down, and that will focus on him instead of some other useless character.

Exactly!

Singer wanted to "re-introduce" the public to Superman (Why, I have no idea, it's complete crap. Everyone knows who Supes is), and with his reintroduction, what we basically got was a rehash from the original film plotwise, and an introduction to "Singerman" and "Superson".
 
How about let's move forward in a way that's actually interesting and will build up the character of Superman instead of tearing him down, and that will focus on him instead of some other useless character.

Jason was that.
 
Exactly!

Singer wanted to "re-introduce" the public to Superman (Why, I have no idea, it's complete crap. Everyone knows who Supes is), and with his reintroduction, what we basically got was a rehash from the original film plotwise, and an introduction to "Singerman" and "Superson".

Funny, by 1978 everyone knew who Superman was. Why did Donnerman introduce him again back then?
 
I just dont know if Bizarro would work? Would Routh be playing him too?

Y'know, that old Inspector Gadget movie comes to mind....
 

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