I think the reason why they didn't touch on it was mainly because there really is nothing to touch on. I mean Post-Crisis Superman nothing has been able to stick. Even Lex is now being tossed around from being a mad scientist to a rich business man back to being a mad scientist/rich business man to being the father of Perrys son, to having a child of his own to not being a dad at all. The only things they were able to make stick is Superman died and got married hell right now he doesn't even have an origin since Birthright been thrown out. Thats the problem you run into with Superman now in the comics only now are things some what getting back on track after the Crisis.Kaboom said:the show was about superman through the ages.
if they started going into tthe constant updates/revisions to supe's history because of the gol;den age/silver age/modern age/ post pre crisis/ infinite crisis, etc...the vast majority of people out there would be like huh? so is johnathan dead or not? was he ever superboy? it would just confuse everyone.
and they DID touch on it. they referenced lex luthor on the serial as bald mad scientist who evolved into business tycoon and eventually into the boyscout's arch-nemesis.
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All-Star Superman said:TW will aviod it for one of two things
1. He wont put on the suit long enough for people to remmber him as Superman
2. He plays as Clark Kent not Superman and SV as good as a show it is will be remembered like Buffy or Angel or DC. Where yea for about 2 to 3 years he might be remembered as Clark Kent once the show ends but it all depends on how BR does in the other project as well that could over shadow him in the same where he wont have the problem.
I think really out of all of them Welling has it easy because only the die-hard SV fans wil call him Superman after that he is really just an actor to most people playing a role because he doesn't wear the suit. Once you wear the suit( and when I saw wear it I mean for more then a few min, but a whole season or more) then you have a problem.
All-Star Superman said:I think the reason why they didn't touch on it was mainly because there really is nothing to touch on. I mean Post-Crisis Superman nothing has been able to stick. Even Lex is now being tossed around from being a mad scientist to a rich business man back to being a mad scientist/rich business man to being the father of Perrys son, to having a child of his own to not being a dad at all. The only things they were able to make stick is Superman died and got married hell right now he doesn't even have an origin since Birthright been thrown out. Thats the problem you run into with Superman now in the comics only now are things some what getting back on track after the Crisis.
Your right. But my thing is if they have stated that in SV there is no Superman and Welling is not playing Superman then why not do an interview or sit down for these things as long as he makes clear that he is not playing Superman if thats what he is worried about. Thats just one way around it if he wants to move away from that type of role.Kaboom said:i dont disagree with you. but the question was "why doesnt TW do interviews?"
my hypothesis was: "to aviod having the public-at-large associate him with the role of superman, and then i stated my reasons why."
whether or not the public actually would associate him with superman is responsive to a question different then the one that was posited.
KalKai said:Or.. MAYBE because he was just busy at the time?
TW doesn't avoid interviews, he's just a private guy, and doesn't have enough time for these things.
KalKai said:Or.. MAYBE because he was just busy at the time?
TW doesn't avoid interviews, he's just a private guy, and doesn't have enough time for these things.
Yea I know I am just wondering why he doesn't do that? I mean what if this will be the most he ever does then he'll be wishing someone will be working on a project like this so he could have some work. I just think dont burn the bridges with your fans or have them wondering if you think your to good for them *cough* Hatcher *cough*.darkzombiemutt said:No, it's because he's a prick and he hates Superman, and hates the fans even more.
Why Tom, Why?
Really though, he could not be on there for any number of reasons. Reasons we'll probably never know.
Without a doubt, the BEST part of the show, right there.darkzombiemutt said:The best part was Jon Peters on camera confessing that what he had been trying to make for the last 12 years was wrong was priceless.
Maybe he wasn't asked?All-Star Superman said:My question is why doesn't Welling ever take the time out to be interviewed for these type of things?
The only thing Welling hasn't done is sci-fi cons and a commentary track on the DVDs post Season 2. Other than that, he's very much on top of all things Smallville. In point of fact, he became quite the go-to guy for Warners for their Upfront press presentations. My guess is, that won't change under CW.M.E.H.Z.E.B said:Probably because he just doesn't want mainstream exposure. Other than that, I can't think of any reason why he never makes any appearance in any documentary, featurette or interview regarding Smallville.
Hatcher is involved with another show now. Maybe she doesn't have the time to talk about something she did ten years ago? She's a part of the history and I'm sure she knows it. Just because you rarely see her talking about it now doesn't mean she wants nothing to do with its history.All-Star Superman said:...to me he seems more like Terri Hatcher who wants nothing to do with their role in Superman history.
I don't get the correlation here. Even at awards ceremonies or red carpet events, you're not going to hear lengthy interviews with any celebrity, but if somebody shoves a microphone at Welling at such an event, dollars to donuts SV - or an aspect of the show - will likely be mentioned. Such instances have indeed occurred and he's been very courteous and well spoken at all the ones I've seen or heard. The only questions he ducks are personal questions from reporters (which shouldn't be asked to begin with) and questions involving things he's not allowed to discuss (which he makes clear at the time of the interview.)I have yet to see him talk about the show if he is not promoting something for it and it seems like when he does that he doesn't really want to talk about it.
Y'know, not all producers and directors responsible for comic book based TV shows and films actually *read* the very comics their films and TV shows are based on, and openly admit that in interviews. It's a bone of contention with fanboys, but it does lead to innovative and different stories. Or so I've heard.All though I like how the people who created SV finally admitted they knew little about Superman before SV, which explains and makes up for a lot on the show.
Agreed. I was expecting they'd mention it just by name, but maybe it's too hard core for the general public. I did chuckle at how they glossed over the war years. Some Superman comics from that era weren't very "neutral" at all. In fact, some of the covers are quite eye-opening LOL.The Question said:I enjoyed it immensely. Although, I would have liked it if they talked more about the post crisis changes. That was a pretty big deal, and they didn't really touch upon it.
Well Pat I am sure he was asked about it if he is how most of you SV people say the new face of Superman or was the new face of Superman. He had to have been asked to do the project. Welling if you really listen to him doesn't like talking about the show for some reason and I am just wondering why. I mean when ever he has talked about the show it seems like he is more or less in the mood of lets get this thing over with. And I dont want to hear him talk lengthy about but I would like it if he was apart of things instead of only doing it because he has to. When he did comic-cons and stuff that was because he had to not wanted to. He had to promote the show not because he wanted to do that and meet the people who may look up to him. Also this doc. wasn't just for the movie or it would have more about SR then it did. SV had almost a bigger part then the little bit on SR. I just feel Welling could do some of these things while SV is still hot because once thats over who knows what type of jobs e may get afterwards. As for Hatcher she never talks about being even when she wasn't working but thats another story.AgentPat said:Without a doubt, the BEST part of the show, right there.![]()
Maybe he wasn't asked?
The only thing Welling hasn't done is sci-fi cons and a commentary track on the DVDs post Season 2. Other than that, he's very much on top of all things Smallville. In point of fact, he became quite the go-to guy for Warners for their Upfront press presentations. My guess is, that won't change under CW.
Hatcher is involved with another show now. Maybe she doesn't have the time to talk about something she did ten years ago? She's a part of the history and I'm sure she knows it. Just because you rarely see her talking about it now doesn't mean she wants nothing to do with its history.
I don't get the correlation here. Even at awards ceremonies or red carpet events, you're not going to hear lengthy interviews with any celebrity, but if somebody shoves a microphone at Welling at such an event, dollars to donuts SV - or an aspect of the show - will likely be mentioned. Such instances have indeed occurred and he's been very courteous and well spoken at all the ones I've seen or heard. The only questions he ducks are personal questions from reporters (which shouldn't be asked to begin with) and questions involving things he's not allowed to discuss (which he makes clear at the time of the interview.)
Beyond that, where else would you see him publicly talk about SV in an interview that wasn't designed to publicize the show or another project he was formally or currently involved with? Besides, that A&E show wasn't *just* a documentary for the helluvit. It's all part of the marketing and promotion designed to build awareness and interest in an upcoming feature film.
Y'know, not all producers and directors responsible for comic book based TV shows and films actually *read* the very comics their films and TV shows are based on, and openly admit that in interviews. It's a bone of contention with fanboys, but it does lead to innovative and different stories. Or so I've heard.
Agreed. I was expecting they'd mention it just by name, but maybe it's too hard core for the general public. I did chuckle at how they glossed over the war years. Some Superman comics from that era weren't very "neutral" at all. In fact, some of the covers are quite eye-opening LOL.
Tony, err... All Star, do you have an agenda here? Seriously. 'Cause every time you post in this forum, you go off on seemingly insignificant things, all of which tend to bash the show, its writers, its cast, or its characters in some way. I have no clue what interviews to which you refer, but I've seen dozens of 'em with Welling, not to mention heard quite a few radio interviews, and never once did he come off sounding "lets get this over with - I have better things to do." He's very respectful of the show and the icon he portrays. He said many times (I'll upload the interviews if you want to hear them yourself - though many are already on You-Tube) how much he enjoys playing CK and how important it is to him that he does the character justice in the eyes of fans. Why make such a big deal about him not being on this A&E show? You don't care what he says anyway since you apparently haven't really listened to him in his interviews or you'd know how he feels. I don't remember, but was Rosenbaum on the show? Was Kreuk? Was Schneider? There's a good possibility the A&E show was shot while SV was still in production. We just don't know. Why make up excuses for motivations that are so off the wall, they're ridiculous? As to Welling's career after SV, let him worry about that, though I'd gather he isn't too concerned. I'm not.All-Star Superman said:Well Pat I am sure he was asked about it if he is how most of you SV people say the new face of Superman or was the new face of Superman. He had to have been asked to do the project. Welling if you really listen to him doesn't like talking about the show for some reason and I am just wondering why. I mean when ever he has talked about the show it seems like he is more or less in the mood of lets get this thing over with. And I dont want to hear him talk lengthy about but I would like it if he was apart of things instead of only doing it because he has to. When he did comic-cons and stuff that was because he had to not wanted to. He had to promote the show not because he wanted to do that and meet the people who may look up to him. Also this doc. wasn't just for the movie or it would have more about SR then it did. SV had almost a bigger part then the little bit on SR. I just feel Welling could do some of these things while SV is still hot because once thats over who knows what type of jobs e may get afterwards. As for Hatcher she never talks about being even when she wasn't working but thats another story.
AgentPat said:Tony, err... All Star, do you have an agenda here? Seriously. 'Cause every time you post in this forum, you go off on seemingly insignificant things, all of which tend to bash the show, its writers, its cast, or its characters in some way. I have no clue what interviews to which you refer, but I've seen dozens of 'em with Welling, not to mention heard quite a few radio interviews, and never once did he come off sounding "lets get this over with - I have better things to do." He's very respectful of the show and the icon he portrays. He said many times (I'll upload the interviews if you want to hear them yourself - though many are already on You-Tube) how much he enjoys playing CK and how important it is to him that he does the character justice in the eyes of fans. Why make such a big deal about him not being on this A&E show? You don't care what he says anyway since you apparently haven't really listened to him in his interviews or you'd know how he feels. I don't remember, but was Rosenbaum on the show? Was Kreuk? Was Schneider? There's a good possibility the A&E show was shot while SV was still in production. We just don't know. Why make up excuses for motivations that are so off the wall, they're ridiculous? As to Welling's career after SV, let him worry about that, though I'd gather he isn't too concerned. I'm not.
Kaboom, indeed. Rinse and repeat. It's getting old, init?
M.E.H.Z.E.B said:Please upload the video interviews for all of us to enjoy.
No I dont have an agenda I am just wondering why he didn't do the interview when I am sure they asked him to do so. Thats all I am not trying to bash SV or Welling I am just wondering why he didn't do it.AgentPat said:Tony, err... All Star, do you have an agenda here? Seriously. 'Cause every time you post in this forum, you go off on seemingly insignificant things, all of which tend to bash the show, its writers, its cast, or its characters in some way. I have no clue what interviews to which you refer, but I've seen dozens of 'em with Welling, not to mention heard quite a few radio interviews, and never once did he come off sounding "lets get this over with - I have better things to do." He's very respectful of the show and the icon he portrays. He said many times (I'll upload the interviews if you want to hear them yourself - though many are already on You-Tube) how much he enjoys playing CK and how important it is to him that he does the character justice in the eyes of fans. Why make such a big deal about him not being on this A&E show? You don't care what he says anyway since you apparently haven't really listened to him in his interviews or you'd know how he feels. I don't remember, but was Rosenbaum on the show? Was Kreuk? Was Schneider? There's a good possibility the A&E show was shot while SV was still in production. We just don't know. Why make up excuses for motivations that are so off the wall, they're ridiculous? As to Welling's career after SV, let him worry about that, though I'd gather he isn't too concerned. I'm not.
Kaboom, indeed. Rinse and repeat. It's getting old, init?
Thank you and to be honest I was fine with the answer you gave. Thats why I left it alone and went to talk about how they didn't talk about Post Crisis comics. Because all I was doing is wondering why he didn't do it.Kaboom said:To be the voice of reason for one second:
To be fair this is a forum about Smallville. Not just to praise the show, but to criticize it as well. if tony wants to criticize the show, thats his perogative. i do think he has changed because at least now he is talking about the show and not the movie that shall not be mentioned.
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I agree Rosenbaum should have been up there as well but as far a Kreuk she doesn't need to be. Lana is not Gwen Stacy IMO you can kill Lana off and no one would really care to much as long as you have Lois. Plus Kreuk, SV staff, and Austion killed Lana IMO. I ask about Welling because Welling plays Clark Kent and they interviewd every living person who played Superman hell even Perry did it. So I was wonder why Welling didnt want to thats all. There is no harm in asking. You guys follow his life more then I do I just follow the show so I was wondering if you guys my know.KalKai said:You wonder too much.
Why didn't you ask how come Schneider, or Rosenbaum, or Glover, or Kreuk didn't do any interviews? Funny how you immediately jumped on Welling, yes he's the main character, but it sounds like you know EXACTLY what's going on in his mind, when infact you don't.
Just accept the fact that he's a busy guy, and don't worry bout what happens after SV.