Adam McKay to take on Dick Cheney in “Vice” (Bale, Adams, Rockwell)

I don't know if I can sit through this. Even if it portrays Cheney and his cronies in a completely negative light (which it should, but it will probably also try to humanize him or attempt to make the Bush years humorous),


*Sighs* 'Cause they were both irredeemable devil-people, right?

Though, again, this is McKay. You'll probably get something pretty close to what you're wanting.
 
Bale is rubbing off on Amy now. She was doing Method acting.
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https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/9kz9d5/garage-cover-amy-adams-andy-warhol

The next addition to her roster of films will be Backseat. Directed by Adam McKay, it examines Vice President Dick Cheney’s outsize role in the Bush White House, with Adams in the role of Second Lady Lynne Cheney (she is paired again with Bale, who will play the VP). Following The Big Short, this is the second in what Adams calls the director’s “socially relevant filmmaking.” On set, she would have political debates with McKay to get into character, using Lynne’s accent and championing Lynne’s point of view, always in full hair and makeup. During the course of making the movie, she never spoke to the director as herself.

“When we wrapped I finally dropped the voice,” she remembers, “and he was like, ‘No, this is too weird! I can’t even talk to you.’”
 
Her saying that, Rockwell saying how the shape of his mouth changed because of playing Bush....campaign is on already :funny:
 
*Sighs* 'Cause they were both irredeemable devil-people, right?

Though, again, this is McKay. You'll probably get something pretty close to what you're wanting.

Yeah, I guess sending 4,000 soldiers to their deaths based on a lie and slaughtering tens of thousands of other people isn't such a big deal, huh?

I swear, republicans will excuse anything.
 
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Intelligence being wrong doesn't equate to a lie, but I suspect you're aware of that on an intellectual level. And the initial intel came from Britain and France, if this was some nefarious cabal it was a multi-nation deal.

But yeah, things never go wrong in the real world, right? Hard decisions always work out, information always proves accurate, nothing ever goes awry. Good to know, that way if it does we know it's some sort of "mwahahaha fool the clueless rubes, gimme gimme gimme t3h oilz" thing.

Also, not a Republican/conservative, even of the neocon or libertarian subset.
 
Intelligence being wrong doesn't equate to a lie, but I suspect you're aware of that on an intellectual level. And the initial intel came from Britain and France, if this was some nefarious cabal it was a multi-nation deal.

But yeah, things never go wrong in the real world, right? Hard decisions always work out, information always proves accurate, nothing ever goes awry. Good to know, that way if it does we know it's some sort of "mwahahaha fool the clueless rubes, gimme gimme gimme t3h oilz" thing.

Also, not a Republican/conservative, even of the neocon or libertarian subset.

Yeah, sure you're not. That's why I just saw you defending Jeff Sessions in the Trump thread.

Anyway, you need to get your facts straight. Bush and Cheney absolutely lied about Iraq and here's a list of some of the more prominent examples:

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/9/12123022/george-w-bush-lies-iraq-war

Of course, Vox is a left-leaning publication, so I fully expect you to start screaming "FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWS!" at the top of your lungs any minute now.
 
I want to see how Rockwell looks as Dubya but we might have to wait a while.
 
Dude, I've voted Democrat in the last three federal elections. Probably would have been a (reluctant, but still) vote for Kerry in '04 too, a year older and I could have. It's more 50/50 with the local stuff depending on who's running, but hardly some Republican by allegiance.

Thing is, there are degrees of this. "Bush ****ed up" is valid. Agree completely on that, personally. "Bush intentionally lied and knowingly scammed us all to line Cheney & Rumsfeld's pockets" is another, that's the extremist position.

That's what this is all about, degrees. You take it to the raving street preacher conspiracy level, and you basically become a Truther. "B-b-but jet fuel doesn't melt steel!" and all that jazz. There's jack supporting these people knowing the intelligence wouldn't pan out as truth. There's a lot obviously saying the intelligence didn't pan out, of friggin' course, but that extra step is mental gymnastics pure & simple. Nothing substantive backing that, and probably even McKay would acknowledge that even among his likely-to-be-pretty-unsympathetic take on this here.

EDIT: And, of course, the Vox article omits anything inconvenient to its assertion there, like France & Britain were in agreement they had a potential WMD program, and that yeah, bio stockpiles he didn't have in '91 were found. But yeah. Not even trying to point out the article citations are false, they're not. It's just that there are contradictory points here too, life's a complex thing. Being a "this was the three major western powers" thing sort of negates the "Bush Bush Bush and also Cheney raaah!" take. France didn't even want in to the actual war, and they asserted he had the gas stockpiles. Which, whoop-diddy-****in'-doo, were actually found. Just not nukes.

There's nuance here.
 
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Mckay doesn't hold back on his political views if you see his twitter account. But seeing as this movie is also about the Cheney family and Bale said he wasn't going to portray him as some kind of "moustachy villain" but as a multi dimensional character. He even praised Dick for being a good family man.
 
Since this is a movie forum and we have a whole politics forum, please don't make this thread political :)

I know it is harder for a movie like this, but let's please focus it on the movie.
 
Yeah, the makeup/prosthetic jobs there is crazy. Adams looks really on-point too.
 
From Amy’s Sharp Objects press tour...

Amy’s gone method! :D

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/...lywood-sharp-objects.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Ms. Adams compared her own process to “catching a virus,” one that she can feel inside her body but suppress at will. “I’m constantly aware of other people’s experiences on set,” she said.

Adam McKay, director of a coming film about the life of Vice President Dick Cheney, tentatively titled “Cheney,” said Ms. Adams and Christian Bale — a reputed method actor and her previous acting partner in “The Fighter” and “American Hustle”— showed similar devotion to their characters.

Mr. McKay said Ms. Adams’s fluid portrayal of the second lady Lynne Cheney, which in the film covers five decades, resulted in a kind of uncanny hybrid that he and the rest of the crew took to calling “Amy Cheney.”

“She’s talking in that voice and emotionally leaning in that direction,” he said. “But you can still call her Amy and joke around and talk about other things.”

Occasionally, the Cheney persona — political ideology and all — manifested at surprising moments, like on the day Congress passed a sweeping overhaul of the tax code.

Mr. McKay had found the news depressing, believing the bill favored the superrich, and, speaking to Ms. Adams about it on set, was taken aback when she all but accused him of being a socialist.

“She looks at me, totally in character, and immediately goes, ‘Well Adam, when people do well in life, they shouldn’t be punished.’

Amy on Christian:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/amy-adams-is-out-of-her-own-skin-in-new-hbo-series-sharp-objects/news-story/981c89713efaf59afbb82eb9a83328e2

Her next role will reunite Adams with Christian Bale for the third time, in political drama, Back seat (a biopic about former vice president, Dick Cheney).

Adams, who shared the screen with Bale in 2010’s The Fighter and 2013’s American Hustle, plays Cheney’s wife Lynne.

“To be honest, I can’t say that I’ve ever worked with Christian Bale,” explains, with a shake of her head.

“Now he’s Dick Cheney, and previously I worked with the dude in American Hustle, and I worked with Dickie from The Fighter, but not Christian!” she says, with a laugh. “He just makes working so much fun because he’s so transformative.”
 
*Sighs* 'Cause they were both irredeemable devil-people, right?

Though, again, this is McKay. You'll probably get something pretty close to what you're wanting.

Ikr? I will admit I am not well educated in the Bush adminstration, (I didn't agree with the Iraq war though) but complaining that the film will 'humanize' Cheney is rather silly. He IS a human. We ARE ALL are!

Bush and his inner circle aren't some fantastical boogeymen. They're people, like you or me.
 
Dick Cheney Movie 'Vice' Gets Christmas Release Date

Adam McKay's latest film, to star Amy Adams and Christian Bale, will see a trailer released on Oct. 3.
The Christian Bale-starring Dick Cheney biopic Vice from Annapurna Pictures is getting a Christmas Day 2018 release.

The Paramount release, which also stars Steve Carell and Amy Adams and is directed by Adam McKay, has been moved from an earlier Dec. 21 nationwide release.
 
Heh, so Rockwell's Bush? That's pretty funny. Gonna be hard to top Brolin's, but cool out-there choice for it all the same.
 
Bale kinda looks like Cheney in the official pics.
 

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