The Dark Knight Rises Adapting Knightfall

[Green Scar]

No Valley. Screw that guy. just Batman and Bane head games only without Batman getting his back broken. Basically a story more INSPIRED by Knightfall similar to how The Dark Knight was inspired by The Long Halloween and Batman Begins was inspired by Year One.

orrrr they could just avoid bane too.

 

[The Major]

I think telling the story of "Knightfall" would really only require two movies. The first movie would deal with introducing Bane and Jean-Paul Valley, Bane breaking all the freaks out of Arkham, Batman busting them, and then Bane breaking Batman's back.

Movie two would deal with Batman passing the mantle of the Bat to Valley, his rise as Batman, him busting Bane, and then going over the edge. Meanwhile, Bruce would take a soul-searching journey around the world, rebuilding himself mentally and physically. When he's ready, he can return to Gotham and have his final showdown with Valley. After beating him, the movie can end with Batman sneaking into Arkham and putting a beating on Bane to regain his spot as king of Gotham.

Both movies would be long, but I think it could be pulled off.

I'd like to see this happen.

 

[The Major]

No Valley. Screw that guy. just Batman and Bane head games only without Batman getting his back broken. Basically a story more INSPIRED by Knightfall similar to how The Dark Knight was inspired by The Long Halloween and Batman Begins was inspired by Year One.

I'd like this, too.

 

[Savage]

orrrr they could just avoid bane too.

Or...they could not. The guy's Batman's mental equal and physical superior. I'd say that makes for a hell of a conflict. I'd even accept changes to the character like having him be a prisoner of the League of Shadows or something (now relocated to South America since their last headquarters kind of blew up). I think the guy can be very interesting on the big screen no matter what the incarnation. At this point I trust Nolan to do whatever he wants because he still manages to keep the essence of these characters. They're still very recognizable despite tweaked origins.

 

[Terror Inc.]

While I liked Knightfall when I was younger, the only thing I want to see if Bane is in it, is the fight in Wayne Manor, thatd be ****in tight!

 

[frodawgg]

i've always wondered about this. i always thought it could be a three movie story, too, after the 3rd nolan one. it might be better as an animated DVD project, though.

oh, and they shouldn't introduce bane without him breaking the bat. that is the ONLY reason to include him. like when he was in BTAS and Batman and Robin, such a waste.

 

[The Major]

Bane doesn't need to break Batman's back to be an interesting villain in a movie.

 

[Chris Wallace]

orrrr they could just avoid bane too.

I agree. Let's just stay out of the overly sci-fi realm of Batman altogether. Batman can have his high-tech toys, but we don't need any mutated/genetically altered/super-strong/what have you baddies in this series. Just stick to the "better class of criminal" like Catwoman, Riddler, etc. Villains who challenge Batman's mind. There are plenty of places to get your superpowered fix without bringing those freaks to Gotham. Let it go.

 

[chaseter]

I agree. Let's just stay out of the overly sci-fi realm of Batman altogether. Batman can have his high-tech toys, but we don't need any mutated/genetically altered/super-strong/what have you baddies in this series. Just stick to the "better class of criminal" like Catwoman, Riddler, etc. Villains who challenge Batman's mind. There are plenty of places to get your superpowered fix without bringing those freaks to Gotham. Let it go.

Agreedt:

 

[Chris Wallace]

I just knew the first post after mine was gonna be an attack. Happy to see I was wrong.

 

[chaseter]

I think telling the story of "Knightfall" would really only require two movies. The first movie would deal with introducing Bane and Jean-Paul Valley, Bane breaking all the freaks out of Arkham, Batman busting them, and then Bane breaking Batman's back.

Movie two would deal with Batman passing the mantle of the Bat to Valley, his rise as Batman, him busting Bane, and then going over the edge. Meanwhile, Bruce would take a soul-searching journey around the world, rebuilding himself mentally and physically. When he's ready, he can return to Gotham and have his final showdown with Valley. After beating him, the movie can end with Batman sneaking into Arkham and putting a beating on Bane to regain his spot as king of Gotham.

Both movies would be long, but I think it could be pulled off.

That is lame

 

[The Major]

I agree. Let's just stay out of the overly sci-fi realm of Batman altogether. Batman can have his high-tech toys, but we don't need any mutated/genetically altered/super-strong/what have you baddies in this series. Just stick to the "better class of criminal" like Catwoman, Riddler, etc. Villains who challenge Batman's mind. There are plenty of places to get your superpowered fix without bringing those freaks to Gotham. Let it go.

Bane doesn't need to be super-powered to work.

Steroids already exist. It wouldn't be that tough to make Venom realistic with toned down to ordinary or slightly above ordinary affects.

His history and personality are even easier to adapt, too. They can go in many directions with Bane while still honoring the comics and making him an interesting villain in Nolan's world.

Bane can challenge Batman's mind. His strength, skill and intelligent make him perfect triple threat. He's not just a super-strong idiot like in Batman and Robin. Have you read many Bane comics?

 

[Savage]

I agree. Let's just stay out of the overly sci-fi realm of Batman altogether. Batman can have his high-tech toys, but we don't need any mutated/genetically altered/super-strong/what have you baddies in this series. Just stick to the "better class of criminal" like Catwoman, Riddler, etc. Villains who challenge Batman's mind. There are plenty of places to get your superpowered fix without bringing those freaks to Gotham. Let it go.

Bane does challenge Batman's mind though. That's the point of the character. That mentally he's a match for Batman and figured out his identity within months. Not only that but he's an exact physical match and NEEDS the Venom just for that slight edge against The Batman. I actually think it'd be great to add a twist to the venom drug and make it boost the user's brain activity as well, making this guy pretty much the toughest opponent Batman has ever faced. Mental challenges are great but we can't always have throwaway thugs for Batman to push easily out of the way. A real challenge (besides Ra's) would be great.

If not Bane then at least Lady Shiva as a secondary villain to Riddler or Talia or something. Batman can take on hundreds of people at once. Let's put him up against someone who can do the same.

 

[The Major]

Love to see Shiva in a Bat-film.

They would have to make her more reliant on technology to work in Nolan's world. Being a great martial artist in a realistic world would be just to much of a stretch for one of the world's best assassins.

They'd have to tone down her skills to Batman level and allow her to use stuff like guns, grenades etc. She'd be sort of like David Cain.

He might be actually fit more then Shiva. Nolan wouldn't need to change much at all with him.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Bane does challenge Batman's mind though. That's the point of the character. That mentally he's a match for Batman and figured out his identity within months. Not only that but he's an exact physical match and NEEDS the Venom just for that slight edge against The Batman. I actually think it'd be great to add a twist to the venom drug and make it boost the user's brain activity as well, making this guy pretty much the toughest opponent Batman has ever faced. Mental challenges are great but we can't always have throwaway thugs for Batman to push easily out of the way. A real challenge (besides Ra's) would be great.

If not Bane then at least Lady Shiva as a secondary villain to Riddler or Talia or something. Batman can take on hundreds of people at once. Let's put him up against someone who can do the same.

I never said Bane wasn't a mental challenge; he knows how Batman thinks. That is what makes him dangerous. And I like Bane. But I also like Clayface & Man-Bat. Doesn't mean I want to see them in a movie.

 

[MrLee]

I don't think we'll ever see Bats 'die' on screen in the near future, it would kill off any franchise. I don't think even Batman could come back from a broken spine.

 

[Matt.S99]

Not for a sequel. I could see it owrking as a movie though, just not these movies.

 

[Matt.S99]

But 300 actually had someone capable to continue the legacy(even with his one eye). Who are they gonna get? Robin? I dont think so.

 

[ND Irish]

i doubt WB would ever do that with their top character. i know its a great story but i really dont think it will ever be put into place on the big screen

 

[Matt.S99]

That would just be a stupid ending...

 

[Eggyman]

That would just be a stupid ending...

Truth.

 

[Zephyr Alexian]

So my question to you is why the Riddler? What purpose would he serve in a trilogy (assuming this ends up being just a trilogy) Let me know what you think...

If they choose the Riddler, his MO of mystifying people with his logic fits the trilogy. Nolan's central theme for the films is one of fear. In the first film, fear was used as a way for Bruce's character to grow or develop. In the last one, it's also a thing to endure and is displayed in the mannerisms/reactions of people around him.

Carmine Falcone in Begins: "you always fear what you don't understand".

How many people understand the Riddler? That's what makes him dangerous. He's a variable. (not as erratic as the Joker, but a refined elitist type of evil that calculates according to the philosophical manifestation of his own egotism.)

Personally, I like him because of two reasons:

1) The complexity of TDK proves that the world is ideal for a villain with abnormal intellect

2) The man who directed Memento is free to create Riddler's character/incarnation and his lethal wit.

A psychological thriller with Batman lore as the source material? It's almost too much.

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[Matt.S99]

I so wish that I could write and direct the next film. Then all of you would see how right you guys were and I could see how wrong I was

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I kid

 

[metalhead_dave]

I'm starting to think that this guy, the Wihelm Scream dude and the guy who did the Batsub ending of TDK are all the same person.

 

[04nbod]

But 300 actually had someone capable to continue the legacy(even with his one eye). Who are they gonna get? Robin? I dont think so.

I believe it was Azreal's job because bruce didn't think Dick would want to do it. Dick overtook the mantle when Azrael wasn't appropriate until Bruce recovered (or something , I've only read the thing once and it was a while ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael_(comics)#Knightfall