Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - LEVEL 11 - Part 5

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[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I don't really want to see outright comic costumes on the show. Something adapted to the situation, maybe. Now when they show up in the films (if that ever happens) bring on the spandex!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Should Daredevil look like a superhero before he plays with the Avengers?

Hawkeye, Black Widow and Mockingbird all work with SHIELD (which no longer has strict rules for dress)...and all should be able to adjust the basic look of the SHIELD costume to fit themselves. If Skye is Quake, then she should be able to adjust her costume as well.

have you not seen the picture of NetFlix DD? he looks nothing like the red suited Daredevil most are familiar with.. he looks more like a black ninja...

not to mention he's got his own agenda and world.. he's like batman in the sense he will (hopefully) don the red-devil look to strike fear into his villains... Mocking Bird has no reason to do that... with her name or her costume. none of that logic makes sense.

Widow wears mostly a standard female shield agent suit with her own unique customization (her widow gauntlets) and showing a bit more cleavage...and while hawkeye is yes, certainly the most unique, his Avengers color of purple, was muted to be dark... and in Avengers 2 both he and Widow now have a bit "flashier" costumes, with Widow's blue piping and hawkeyes trench...

you don't understand the concept of functionality... do you not understand how glaring Mockingbird's white would be? she couldn't be stealthy in that... especially in a time where SHIELD has gone DARK and into hiding.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

uuuurrrrr... practicality... in comics... too much... damn you Nolan

 

[Surfer]

Well once again I think the costumes looking out of place more has to do with the situation. If for example Bobbi was infiltrating a Hydra party during Carnivale in Venice Italy as Spiderboy had mentioned earlier then it could feel appropriate, but I am okay with waiting too. However, there is no guarantee that Mockingbird will ever make a big screen debut either. So, getting her into that type of situation might be the only way we would ever see her in something resembling her actual costume.

Surfer

 

[Heretic]

have you not seen the picture of NetFlix DD? he looks nothing like the red suited Daredevil most are familiar with.. he looks more like a black ninja...

not to mention he's got his own agenda and world.. he's like batman in the sense he will (hopefully) don the red-devil look to strike fear into his villains... Mocking Bird has no reason to do that... with her name or her costume. none of that logic makes sense.

Widow wears mostly a standard female shield agent suit with her own unique customization (her widow gauntlets) and showing a bit more cleavage...and while hawkeye is yes, certainly the most unique, his Avengers color of purple, was muted to be dark... and in Avengers 2 both he and Widow now have a bit "flashier" costumes, with Widow's blue piping and hawkeyes trench...

you don't understand the concept of functionality... do you not understand how glaring Mockingbird's white would be? she couldn't be stealthy in that... especially in a time where SHIELD has gone DARK and into hiding.

You think that Daredevil's costume isn't going to change out of that black outfit? REALLY?

Yes...Widow wears a basic black outfit with her own customizations...and Hawkeye has his customizations. So...uh...why couldn't Mockingbird or a possible Quake also have their own customizations? It's funny that Hawkeye can have his own customizations, but Mockingbird can't because she hasn't met Hawkeye on screen, yet it's clear on the show that she does know him.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I said something in the AoU thread but I really hope the tie-in to AoU gets the whole Coulson is alive thing out in the open. I really want the AoS guys to be able to make small little bit cameo parts in the MCU proper helping out. Nothing integral to the story but it would just be an extra bit of fun if they popped up there. I could see at the end of this season Coulson and the team finding out something very important and having a video conference with Cap or RDJ to pass on the info with a little joke about him not being dead. Something simple like that could work

 

[spideyboy_1111]

uuuurrrrr... practicality... in comics... too much... damn you Nolan

lol he overloaded it... but "practicality has been around before nolan too, to be fair" It's not like the Avengers themselves have that practical of costumes... Cap is wearing a flag to embody the spirit, Tony wears hot rod red.. because he likes it... Thor's is asgardian armor, hawkeye wears what he wants because he likes it... , etc... Origins i just think especially need to start out practical. Unless you have a concept you want to embody. (spidey for instance) after his proto costumes, he did what he wanted, got the spider look going on, and didn't care about being flashy. it's his personality, and for him, it's all part of being a superhero (now why that logica doesn't apply to villains... i do not know )

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You think that Daredevil's costume isn't going to change out of that black outfit? REALLY?

where did i say that? don't put words in my mouth. I said he currently doesn't (and we've seen no signs of it yet) it might not appear till the end of the first season even... hell it could appear in episode 2. point is.. he has to embrace the message he wants to send. he's not wearing a red-devil costume just for the sake of wearing a costume... he's wearing it to instill fear in his enemeys... Why would a stealthy spy for an orginization that's in hiding wear a flashy costume? it wouldn't make any sense...

Yes...Widow wears a basic black outfit with her own customizations...and Hawkeye has his customizations. So...uh...why couldn't Mockingbird or a possible Quake also have their own customizations? It's funny that Hawkeye can have his own customizations, but Mockingbird can't because she hasn't met Hawkeye on screen, yet it's clear on the show that she does know him.

because there customization still very much look like shield (aside from hawekeye's new costume) and they make sense for the functionality of there skill sets... do you want Black Cat in a spidey movie running around on rooftops in high heels? no.. it's not functional. Flats or a tiny heel are.

look, i know you just want mocking bird in her comic costume, we all would enjoy that.. but it also has to make sense. Hawkeye's costume makes sense for his functionality.. and now that he's an avenger... he's able to have more fun with it and do as he pleases... Bobby isn't anything other than a "shield agent" at the moment.. she's still in her "superhero origin" phase. And she's part of a group of spies who are hiding away... you do not wear a flashy costume with absolutely no functional reason as to why you are doing it.. when in a situation like SHIELD is currently in.. it's honestly that simple.

and for the record... Bobbi's costume DOES have her own customizations. it's not your standard shield body suit... and if you look at it.. it's actually very much her current comic costume without the white and without the goggles.

 

[Alex_Kidd]

Guys someone watched the "Stephen Colbert Report"?
Maurissa and Bear McCreary Tweeted about the show

 

[Heretic]

where did i say that? don't put words in my mouth. I said he currently doesn't (and we've seen no signs of it yet) it might not appear till the end of the first season even... hell it could appear in episode 2. point is.. he has to embrace the message he wants to send. he's not wearing a red-devil costume just for the sake of wearing a costume... he's wearing it to instill fear in his enemeys... Why would a stealthy spy for an orginization that's in hiding wear a flashy costume? it wouldn't make any sense...



because there customization still very much look like shield (aside from hawekeye's new costume) and they make sense for the functionality of there skill sets... do you want Black Cat in a spidey movie running around on rooftops in high heels? no.. it's not functional. Flats or a tiny heel are.

look, i know you just want mocking bird in her comic costume, we all would enjoy that.. but it also has to make sense. Hawkeye's costume makes sense for his functionality.. and now that he's an avenger... he's able to have more fun with it and do as he pleases... Bobby isn't anything other than a "shield agent" at the moment.. she's still in her "superhero origin" phase. And she's part of a group of spies who are hiding away... you do not wear a flashy costume with absolutely no functional reason as to why you are doing it.. when in a situation like SHIELD is currently in.. it's honestly that simple.

and for the record... Bobbi's costume DOES have her own customizations. it's not your standard shield body suit... and if you look at it.. it's actually very much her current comic costume without the white and without the goggles.

Both SHIELD and Hydra brazenly display their logos all over the place...yet a dash of white just ruins the whole thing?

Here's the reason...Bobbi likes white...wants white on her costume...and when it comes to fighting situations, she's such a butt-kicker than she isn't trying to hide in the shadows...and if she was, she'd wear a full face mask so that her white skin didn't give her away.

I agree that she doesn't need a mask. Hawkeye doesn't either.

 

[DN91]

Guys someone watched the "Stephen Colbert Report"?
Maurissa and Bear McCreary Tweeted about the show

President Obama was on the Colbert Report. Nothing relating to SHIELD.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Both SHIELD and Hydra brazenly display their logos all over the place...yet a dash of white just ruins the whole thing?

Here's the reason...Bobbi likes white...wants white on her costume...and when it comes to fighting situations, she's such a butt-kicker than she isn't trying to hide in the shadows...and if she was, she'd wear a full face mask so that her white skin didn't give her away.

I agree that she doesn't need a mask. Hawkeye doesn't either.

you're joking right? you do know there's a difference between having logos all over your base, rather than stamped on your forehead...

the Shield logos on the uniforms are small and I actually don't think anyone has been wearing logos on their tactical gear this season either...

problem with your logic... is SHE IS wanting to hide in the shadows at the moment.. just give it time, she may not want to be in the shadows much longer

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

President Obama was on the Colbert Report. Nothing relating to SHIELD.

Unless Obama secretly said...

 

[marcvader]

Anyways, 7 hours 15 minutes before our mid-season break.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Anyways, 7 hours 15 minutes before our mid-season break.

it's 7hours too long dammit!

 

[Lilbaz]

In the comics a lot of characters wore costumes so the reader can recognise them at a glance. It's not needed so much on TV as we recognise the actors. If Hawkeye or Mockingbird wore their costumes from the comics they would look a bit weird. They are Shield agents (at least Clint was) their uniforms are for practicality.

Cap, Iron Man and Thor all have good reasons for wearing what they wear. Cap is the only Marvel hero to really wear a costume. The reason why is shown in The First Avenger.

 

[ajmccarrell]

Unless Obama secretly said...

I don't think he's all that secret about his Hydra affiliation. Now Biden on the other hand.....

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

O-bizzle and BiDAMN are as american as apple pie

 

[Heretic]

you're joking right? you do know there's a difference between having logos all over your base, rather than stamped on your forehead...

the Shield logos on the uniforms are small and I actually don't think anyone has been wearing logos on their tactical gear this season either...

problem with your logic... is SHE IS wanting to hide in the shadows at the moment.. just give it time, she may not want to be in the shadows much longer

She and Hunter busted into a well lit room and started fighting. How is that hiding in shadows? She doesn't ALWAYS have to be uniform...like when she's undercover...but come on!

And besides...it's a tv show. In practically every episode of most of the shows I watch I have to accept certain things as being okay because it's fiction. A patch of white won't somehow ruin that for me.

 

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Clark Gregg Talks Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. Mid-Season Finale & Teases What's To Come 1

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• By James Viscardi 12/08/2014

This week's Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. winter finale is a must see not only for fans of the show, but of the greater Marvel Cinematic Universe as well. Trust us.
With that out of the way, ComicBook.com had an opportunity to chat with Director Coulson himself, Clark Gregg, about his thoughts on the season so far, what fans can expect from the finale, and what to look forward to when it's all said an done. We here at ComicBook.com have done a fair amount of speculation on what to expect from the episode, so it was great to sit down with Clark and see what we could suss out and what he's looking forward to.
Before we get started, last time we talked was at New York Comic Con and you were just itching to get out onto the show floor to fill some gaps in your Warlock collection. Did you have any luck?
Oh man, I wish I could have made it out. It was just too crazy you know? But it’s fine, because a friend of mine gifted me a luchador mask for the next convention circuit. I’m excited to give it a go.
You have been the show's biggest cheerleader all along. Has it been gratifying to see critics and fans really come around this season?
Deeply. DEEPLY. We’ve come a long way since we started and to see fans jump on board for the ride and stay with us is immensely touching. Look, we weren’t perfect coming out of the gate. I feel super protective of that family over there. I really had hoped we’d get the time to see if we can make what we were doing start to hum. To have other people get behind it and enjoy it as much as I do is SUPER gratifying.
You’ve also been very protective of the story. Do you get a kick out of seeing all the speculation about characters and major events that happen in the show?
I do. It’s REALLY fun. There’s a certain amount that I figure out when I read the scripts. Things like, “Well, that guy HAS to be Kree. I mean why would a Skull be blue!?” To be honest, I read that stuff and am like “Oh! That's probably right!” Then, I go to the writers and ask them about it and see if they get pale.
[Laughs]
I make sure they keep me in the dark to a certain extent. I love watching the theories and its fun to be a part of something that has such deep canon. There are a few theories out there that are pretty plausible. But seeing all that rich lore that I grew up with, getting brought to life, thats a little bit different, but close enough to still have the same impact. It looks like a lot of fans are feeling the same way.
Now with the mid-season finale airing tomorrow, do you get any free time or is it right back to the grindstone to finish out the season?
Zero. I mean we have our holiday break that we get every year. The season is about 13 episodes before Christmas break.Then we get a few weeks off, and its right back at it.
I love what they did schedule wise though this time around, and its really smart. I think there were too many gaps last season but having us end, then having Agent Carter run, and then we come back is really going to be gratifying for fans. It’s meant that the visual effects team has a lot of long nights to finish episodes before they air. We’re all super grateful for the effort that the team puts in and hopefully with this break it’ll give them some room.
[Laughs]
If given the chance, now that you might have a tiny bit of free time before you start back up again, want to direct an episode?
In the abstract, it would be a TON of fun. As someone who just directed two, mostly lo-fi indie movies, I’m very interested in it that it would be a crash course in Marvel. It’s only in the abstract because, just doing my job is so incredibly demanding. Between the prep,the post and deliver an episode I’m really proud of, Coulson would need to be in a slab of carbonite for an episode or two.
And we know what kind of crossover that would mean.
You’ve had quite a few guest stars this season. How much fun have you had bringing in new blood into the mix?
I’ve been SUPER impressed with the folks they’ve brought in. It’s funny because the people we have like B.J. Britt, and Bill Paxton who folks were introduced to last year, have become such a part of our ensemble - even when they’re bad guys! Take a guy like Kyle MacLachlan, who’s been KILLING it this season, he’s such a rich and important part of what we’re doing now. The same is true of the amazing trio of Henry Simmons, Adrianne Palicki, & Nick Blood.
It’s an amazing thing with what the writers have done this season. They’ve been able to introduce three new characters to the team and give them clear differences and roles. They’re able to do all this while further pushing the existing characters and continuing to develop them and show why they’re different as well.
It’s made my life a little bit easier because it’s made my schedule more of a five days a week routine. I love that they’re exploring the other characters more and that fans are invested. I couldn’t be more thrilled that fans have taken to Skye’s mystery in the way that they’ve had. It’s been one we have been sitting on for a while now and it’s great to see her take the spotlight like that.
So, I love it all. It’s a scary show because there are a lot of dangerous stuff going on. We’re always scared to get the script because who knows who will turn out to be a Hydra agent next. Or something even worse!
How far ahead do they keep you aware of what’s coming up in the show then? Did you guys know from the get-go what was happening tomorrow or was that a Captain America: Winter Soldier level of surprise?
It’s blended. There are things I suspect are going on, just because of my old school familiarity with the comics. But when I smell something coming, I go and read. I quickly get some of the collections that I hadn’t read yet and try to figure it out. Anybody who is a Marvel fan is certainly reading Civil War these days.
Just as I suspect someone watching the show is probably reading some other stuff.
And that's all I’m going to say.
The one or two times I've known something early, it’s made it harder. I don’t like knowing things that other people don’t know, or even things that Coulson doesn’t know.
Does not knowing make it easier to feel genuinely surprised when it comes time to arrive on set?
It really does. Our lives run very close parallels to the characters on the show that whenever we learn something about who the next traitor is, or who will be hurt coming up, that those idea and reveals take a toll on us. But I think in the end makes for a better performance.
Heading into the second half of the season, will the spy-fiction tone of the show be left behind and head more into the land of super heroics?
I don’t think the core nature of the show will ever change from being “We’re the barrier between the world and a much weirder world.” That's a sentence that's being said by someone who may be gifted in terms of their abilities, but if they get hit by a bullet they’re done.
If they get stabbed by an Asgardian scepter, essentially they’re dead.
[Pause]
One time, they brought a guy back.
It sounds like it was very painful and a lot of lying happened, but I think generally, its about the people who are the human face of the world. The vulnerable people who are dealing in a world, post-Avengers.
In the Marvel Universe, people are aware of all the things that have happened and want a piece of that action. As on our show, it turns out that there were people here before from another world, and they may have left something here that transforms people into something else.
That’s going to keep Coulson busy for a while.
I wouldn’t say that the essential nature of the show will change. There will be no agents jumping from The Bus, or anyone flying off in all different directions without planes.
Will we see more characters with super powers in the second half of the season? We started the season seeing characters like Absorbing Man show up, and a few more from the first season, but will the trend continue?
My only disclaimer is, I’ve been given the script to the episode that I start on Tuesday. Beyond that I haven’t seen any other script.
My weary suspicion is, it’s good they haven’t been written yet.
[Laughs]
I can say as someone who has read the scripts, and talk to the episodes we’ve seen up till last Tuesday, based on that, it seems like it’s hard to imagine that the second half of the season will have LESS people with abilities.
It seems like we’ve tied up a bunch of mysteries from the first season and even a few from this season. Does tomorrows episode lay a bunch of groundwork for all new mysteries?
There was a hint laid out just this past Tuesday. I don’t know anything about this beyond what I’ve noticed, but there are folks on the team who are whispering to each other about stuff.
That's…a problem. I never like it when there are secrets being kept within the team.
Last week, Stephen Amell from "Arrow" mentioned he’d love to do a crossover with "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." Granted, it's something we might not see in our lifetime, but would you want to share a screen with him?
I was really flattered to read that. He’s a fantastic dude and that show is so great! Are you kidding me? I’d love to have a scene with him.
We shot a scene just recently that was around the corner from the original Batcave! I want to meet Alfred! I suspect that won’t happen.
[Laughs]
I have so many fantasies that involve so many crossovers, not only with the DC Universe, but a galaxy far far away!
Magneto! Spidey! I got to work with Spidey in animated form. I have my hopes.
I hope the lawyers get together like the World Security Council and suddenly peace on Earth will reign.
Last question. Will we see Lola?
We’re in the shadows this season. Of the many things I love about Lola, she’s pretty ostentatious.
She’s a fine lady, dressed in bright red, with serious vintage curves, which makes her incredibly attractive to me. But unless she gets a fresh coat of paint, or some stealth technology, I don’t think we’ll see more of her.
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Mid-Season Finale airs tomorrow @ 9pm ET on ABC.




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[Just_Human]

 

[spideyboy_1111]

She and Hunter busted into a well lit room and started fighting. How is that hiding in shadows? She doesn't ALWAYS have to be uniform...like when she's undercover...but come on!

And besides...it's a tv show. In practically every episode of most of the shows I watch I have to accept certain things as being okay because it's fiction. A patch of white won't somehow ruin that for me.

are you really going to start throwing out random missions as proof of anything? haha. That quite obviously was not a stealth mission...

problem is.. this isn't "just a tv show" it's part of a movie franchise that they are taking very seriously... so yeah.. no.