Alien Resurrection: Not That Bad.

[bullets]

alien isnt depressing its about love

 

[jimmylace]

Resurrection was a gross mis-fire- especially tonally. Jenuet saw the Alien movies as typical hollywood fare and treated his movie as such. YOu've just got to watch the DVD extras on the box-set to realise he just didn't get it. A:R would have been a perfect opportunity to continue the series without weaver.

 

[jimmylace]

and why make Alien a dark comedy? AvP is a better movie than this...at least it knew what it was.

 

[Theweepeople]

With how popular Aliens was it would have been dumb on the part of the studio not to make a third film, ontop of that fans would have cried for a sequel.

Not all great films need a sequel. Somtimes it doesn't matter what the fans think or how much profit a studio believes they can make from a sequel. Ghostbusters is the perfect example of this. The first film didn't need a sequel yet one was made. Most fans hated it and the movie was somewhat of a financial disappoinment. We have not gotten a ghostbusters movie in 18 years for good reason. Furthermore, Alien 3 turned out to be very unprofitable for fox. Unlike it's predecessors this movie barely made back it's budget from the domestic profit. The series should have ended with Aliens.

The premise for alien 3 was good just not executed right.

I don't think the premise was good and don't see how it could be executed much better. Any director would have it difficult to make a good film out of that crappy script.

The company was cold hearted and only interested in making a profit that was established with the first two. In alien Ripleys entire crew getting wiped out by the alien was depressing no? In aliens knowing that the company sacrificed all those colonist for the aliens was depressing too wasnt it? and once again out of the entire search and rescue team only 3 ripley, hicks, and newt lived. The theme remained dark throughout all 3.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Yes, alien and aliens were depressing. However, at the end of each movie Ripley is left in a situation were there is hope. There is no hope for her in Alien 3 because she is dead at the end!!!

This is my last contribution to this thread because it is pointless for me to continue expressing why Alien 3 is the worst aliens movie and worst sequel I've ever seen. I've provided more than enough evidence for why I have these feelings.

 

[Midnhtsun]

Not all great films need a sequel. Somtimes it doesn't matter what the fans think or how much profit a studio believes they can make from a sequel. Ghostbusters is the perfect example of this. The first film didn't need a sequel yet one was made. Most fans hated it and the movie was somewhat of a financial disappoinment. We have not gotten a ghostbusters movie in 18 years for good reason. Furthermore, Alien 3 turned out to be very unprofitable for fox. Unlike it's predecessors this movie barely made back it's budget from the domestic profit. The series should have ended with Aliens. Lets see alien was very popular, alien 2 was also so why wouldn't a 3rd one be made? A third movie gave the viewers closure to Ripley's story.




I don't think the premise was good and don't see how it could be executed much better. Any director would have it difficult to make a good film out of that crappy script. Im not saying just one thing was wrong with it, im saying the idea was good but everything else wasnt too par.



You are comparing apples and oranges. Yes, alien and aliens were depressing. However, at the end of each movie Ripley is left in a situation were there is hope. There is no hope for her in Alien 3 because she is dead at the end!!!
Every trilogy needs an ending, the intent of a3 was to complete ripley's story, hence her death would mean no more ripley in any other alien sequels. So yes 1 and 2 end in hope but 3 chose to kill her off to secure that she wouldnt be back for another film.

This is my last contribution to this thread because it is pointless for me to continue expressing why Alien 3 is the worst aliens movie and worst sequel I've ever seen. I've provided more than enough evidence for why I have these feelings.
My post wasnt even about which was better A3 or AR I stopped arguing that when I stated which movie was the tallest piece of crap.

See the bolded text above

 

[jimmylace]

people need to realise just how bad "aliens part deux" would have been.
Alien 3 made all the right moves in my opinion. Aliens had to do what it did....it couldn't be Alien part 2; because it would have sucked. It needed to go the action route...but Alien 3 had to do what it did to. The best of the three in my opinion. But of course, comparing any alien movie with another is like comparing apples and oranges. That's what has made the series so good (barring the last two)

 

[Theweepeople]

One thing I forget to add to my previous post was a comparison of the domestic grosses for each Aliens movie.


Alien= 78mil, Aliens=85 mil, Alien 3=55 mil, and Alien Resurrection=47mil

What I find to be very interesting is how great the financial disparity between Aliens and Alien 3 is in comparison to Alien 3 and AR. Regardless of whether people think AR is a worse film than A3 these numbers suggest that Alien 3 was a much greater disappointment than AR. Considering how much AR gets bashed it's remarkable that it only made 8 million less than A3.

 

[GoldGoblin]

I just saw Alien 3 the Assembly cut,and this is a great movie,I never thought I would ever be saying that.

 

[Midnhtsun]

One thing I forget to add to my previous post was a comparison of the domestic grosses for each Aliens movie.


Alien= 78mil, Aliens=85 mil, Alien 3=55 mil, and Alien Resurrection=47mil

What I find to be very interesting is how great the financial disparity between Aliens and Alien 3 is in comparison to Alien 3 and AR. Regardless of whether people think AR is a worse film than A3 these numbers suggest that Alien 3 was a much greater disappointment than AR. Considering how much AR gets bashed it's remarkable that it only made 8 million less than A3.

I dont quite follow that logic, it seems more like your just trying to bash A3, which it appears most of us have just moved past that. Any film part of the franchise with the name "Alien" is going to get people to go to see it.
AVP grossed 80mil why? Because it was part of the franchise, its something fans wanted to see. They could make an Alien 5 and that could be worse than 3 and Ressurection combined and people will still go see it......why? Because of Alien and Aliens they are the ones people remember.

 

[danoyse]

I agree that the box office and the interest since Aliens has gone down. The fans that weren't driven away by how bad Alien 3 was might have given it one last shot at redemption with Alien 4, but it wasn't much better and to fans like me at the time, the series was really lost.

I've never seen AvP, and I have no interest in the sequel. What little I've seen of them from trailers and TV spots bears little resemblance to the 2 Alien movies I do enjoy. I think it appeals more to a generation of fans who weren't around to get scared ****less in theaters by the original 2 films when they were new.