ALIEN vs. PREDATOR: SURVIVAL of the FITTEST

[dark_b]

well it almost happened - "we have a great script for Alien Vs Predator"...my god!


interview with cameron on Alien V:

QUINT: I remember before Paul W.S. Anderson did ALIEN VS PREDATOR it came out that you kind of made an offer to do another ALIEN film with Ridley Scott...

JAMES CAMERON: Yeah. Ridley and I talked about doing another ALIEN film and I said to 20th Century Fox that I would develop a 5th ALIEN film. I started working on a story, I was working with another writer and Fox came back to me and said, "We've got this really good script for ALIEN VS PREDATOR and I got pretty upset. I said, "You do that you're going to kill the validity of the franchise in my mind." Because to me, that was FRANKENSTEIN MEETS WEREWOLF. It was Universal just taking their assets and starting to play them off against each other.

QUINT: Milking it, totally.

JAMES CAMERON: Milking it. So, I stopped work. Then I saw ALIEN VS PREDATOR and it was actually pretty good. (laughs) I think of the 5 ALIEN films, I'd rate it 3rd.

QUINT: Ummm...

JAMES CAMERON: I actually liked it. I actually liked it a lot.

QUINT: You know, I hate it when movies don't abide by the continuity of their series...

JAMES CAMERON: When they make up their own rules.

QUINT: Exactly. They did that a lot with the alien incubation time, where from egg to chestbuster it happened...

JAMES CAMERON: In minutes, yeah...

QUINT: That kind of stuff really pissed me off with the movie...

JAMES CAMERON: Well, it starts to become a video game. It's like, "Okay, that can be in him and that can show up over here..." It becomes more metaphorical or more comic book. I don't mean comic book in a negative way, I just mean that it's working at a kind of mythic, metaphoric level as opposed to really trying to immerse you in reality.

I mean, I felt when I was making ALIENS I think the same thing Ridley was doing with ALIEN, which is... "I'm going to make you think this is real." Even though it is completely ridiculous deep space adventure. We were going to make you feel like it's real. It's a question of does the film take itself seriously or not.

KRAKEN: So you still thinking about doing something with it?

JAMES CAMERON: No.

KRAKEN: If we promised you our first babies would you think about doing anything with it?

JAMES CAMERON: (laughs) Well, the other thing I've learned is that when you deal with a studio and it's their asset... it's their asset. And I should have learned that lesson with PLANET OF THE APES because I had a great... great idea with PLANET OF THE APES, but it was Fox's asset. Even though I was supposedly developing it we didn't see eye to eye and they sort of picked up their marbles and that was that. They turned out, I think, possibly the most egregious film that they could have on that subject because they miscast the director. It's the only Tim Burton film that I don't like.

woo.w i think i hate fox with a passion t:

i think you can not become that dumb you have to be born like that.

 

[xwolverine2]

yea... i agree... POTA sucked for a tim burton movie.

im glad he likes AVP though... hopefully AVP2 pleases him as well.

 

[dark_b]

yea... i agree... POTA sucked for a tim burton movie.

im glad he likes AVP though... hopefully AVP2 pleases him as well.

i think in a way he was a little sarcastic.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

It doesn't hold anything up to the original, and I wanted something darker.

But Tim Roth's Thade was teh awesome!

 

[DorkyFresh]

to everyone who thinks Alien 3 sux...

...why so?

 

[gregtestagent]

Why doesn't Fox just die, and not be humanities bane? I'm going to wiki Fox and find out who these ****ers are.

 

[Rac]

James Cameron and PotA. Holy ****. Gotta dig this stuff from somewhere...

 

[Ghostrider84]

Why doesn't Fox just die, and not be humanities bane? I'm going to wiki Fox and find out who these ****ers are.

I would wiki the manson family... chances are they are the same people

 

[xwolverine2]

i think in a way he was a little sarcastic.

 

[gregtestagent]

I would wiki the manson family... chances are they are the same people

good one

 

[Ghostrider84]

good one

something about killing beautiful things.....

 

[jnmx2000]

i think alot of the predator mythology of the way they hunt, there culture and who they are comes from the comics or novels which i'm sure you can find on amazon, some of that stuff is expensive cuz its out of print and you can't find it anywhere else.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I got an Aliens Darkhorse novel (not based on the movie) and an Aliens VS Predator novel omnibus on sale (second hand however, but readable). Cant wait to read them.

I'll upload some scans if anyone want to see them and envy how cool I am

 

[ZER0C00L]

ADI Is a BIG part of the reason why these movies are horrible.
what successful movies have they ever been apart of?? there f/x are garbage.

 

[jimmylace]

well they did a good job with the spider-man costume, I dont think the spidey costume could look any better.

their work on x-files was pretty cool too.

 

[Asr]

ADI Is a BIG part of the reason why these movies are horrible.
what successful movies have they ever been apart of?? there f/x are garbage.

You know that Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff Jr (who originally formed ADI) have been involved with the Alien movies ever since the '79 original, right?

 

[SWAT]

You know that Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff Jr (who originally formed ADI) have been involved with the Alien movies ever since the '79 original, right?

Hmm, thought they started on Aliens. Cause they worked with Stan Winston.

AvP2 Scene?

 

[Taiwarriorz21]

Hey everybody check out the latest news: http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=3764

 

[Golgo-13]

^... the article:

At last weekend’s Monster-Mania convention in New Jersey, Fango chatted with Ian Whyte (pictured), who played the Predator known as Scar in ALIEN VS. PREDATOR and dons the makeup and armor again for the sequel ALIEN VS. PREDATOR: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, which Fox has scheduled for a December 25 release. “It was very intense, much more so than the first AVP movie,” Whyte tells Fango of the experience. “The shooting schedule was shorter and, without giving any of the plot away, the Alien and Predator one-on-one combat is way more extreme than anything that has been seen so far.”

That will come as good news to fans who felt the previous movie lacked sufficient grappling between the two deadly extraterrestrial species. “Greg and Colin Strause, the directors, were very particular about the vision that they wanted to see in this film,” Whyte says, “and of course, being a movie called ALIEN VS. PREDATOR, that whole concept is featured heavily.” And Whyte was in the thick of it at all times, because as he notes, “There’s only one Predator [in the movie], but there are plenty of Aliens.” The battle takes place in a small town where the monsters make life miserable for a human cast that includes Reiko (24) Aylesworth, Steven Pasquale, David (FINAL DESTINATION 2) Paetkau, John Ortiz, Johnny Lewis, Gina (FD3) Holden and Shareeka (HALF NELSON) Epps—though Whyte didn’t get much interaction with these co-stars. “Barely saw any of them, to be honest,” he laughs.

The rural locale meant that SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST involved more location work than its mostly set-bound predecessor. “That was much more difficult,” Whyte notes. “You can’t control the conditions as much. I really can’t elaborate too much more than that.” Look for Fango’s on-set coverage of the new AVP on this site and the magazine’s pages in the coming months. —Michael Gingold

Reiko Aylesworth is the only reason i'm going to see this flick...

 

[SWAT]

AvP Predator on the cover of spanish Predator 2 DVD.

 

[Darth Elektra]

I can't wait.

 

[cryptic name]

i'm actually looking forward to this now. it's not like it can be any worse than the first one.

 

[dark_b]

trailer.....when?

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

dunno...pointless post, but I can't help you there.

I'd estimate around mid-month, maybe? If not the latest would be June.

I dunno when the movie comes out though

 

[xwolverine2]

the movie comes out by the holidays right?