Supergirl All About The Ratings!!!!!!

[DigificWriter]

^ At C2E2 someone asked Chyler to "tease something about Season 2", and her response was "That we have one" (she added in a "maybe?)", but I don't believe it was intended to indicate hesitancy or uncertainty, especially given that Greg and Andrew had also spoken about Season 2 as if it were a "lock". I know that Melissa also answered a question or two about Season 2 during the same Q&A, although I can't remember exactly what she said.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...st-and-chyler-leigh-talk-supergirls-successes

 

[Kelly]

Yeah....I didn't think anyone had confirmed anything....

 

[Primal Slayer]

If anything was confirmed to anyone then CBS would've just come out and said "RENEWED"

 

[Kelly]

Well I do think enough information was given for Melissa to go forward with the Patriot Day Movie....but it comes out in December so they should be finished before they would start shooting SG....

 

[TMC1982]

I wonder if CBS right from the jump, made a crucial mistake by scheduling it against another DC show, Gotham on Fox? It naturally, wound up splitting up the audience. I'm kind of surprised that Supergirl wasn't on the CW to begin with due to the Flash crossover.

 

[Kelly]

I wonder if CBS right from the jump, made a crucial mistake by scheduling it against another DC show, Gotham on Fox? It naturally, wound up splitting up the audience. I'm kind of surprised that Supergirl wasn't on the CW to begin with due to the Flash crossover.

Monday Night Football, The Voice, Dancing With The Stars and The Bachelor were far tougher competition.

 

[famicommander]

I wonder if CBS right from the jump, made a crucial mistake by scheduling it against another DC show, Gotham on Fox? It naturally, wound up splitting up the audience. I'm kind of surprised that Supergirl wasn't on the CW to begin with due to the Flash crossover.

Supergirl suffered much more against live sporting events with male viewers and the Voice with female viewers.

Supergirl and Gotham didn't seem to hurt each other much, if at all.

 

[Kathemy]

Supergirl suffered much more against live sporting events with male viewers and the Voice with female viewers.

Supergirl and Gotham didn't seem to hurt each other much, if at all.

I know this to be true for Gotham but can you confirm this by any instances of Supergirl not airing against Gotham or the performers you named?

 

[Kelly]

I know this to be true for Gotham but can you confirm this by any instances of Supergirl not airing against Gotham or the performers you named?

Both Gotham and Supergirl had their lowest ratings after the time change, so I think that above everything else, and with all series, the time change is a B****.

 

[Dr.]

These appear to be the compiled average ratings (18-49) for last season:

(the top guys - for reference)
1. Sunday Night Football - 7.5
3. Big Bang Theory - 5.8
5. X-Files - 4.8
13. NCIS - 3.1

(genre shows)
27. Supergirl - 2.4
27. Lucifer - 2.4
47. Agents of SHEILD - 2.0
47. Gotham - 2.0
69. The Flash - 1.7
88. Agent Carter - 1.4
104. Legends of Tomorrow - 1.2
110. Arrow - 1.1

(bottom guys - for reference)
185. Crazy Ex-Girlfriend - 0.4
196. Significant Mother - 0.2

http://deadline.com/2016/05/tv-season-2015-2016-series-rankings-shows-full-list-1201763189/

 

[Kelly]

Just some thoughts on this years ratings....

It was kind of irritating to consistently hear how bad SG's ratings were, blah, blah, blah as compared to other new shows, blah, blah, blah....article after article after article talking about it as a disappointment.

YET, Pretty much the ENTIRE 15-16 YEAR WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT as seen in this article.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/2015-2016-tv-season-in-one-depressing-chart.html

And then the rankings of all the new shows, some of which were "short seasons" like "X-Files" etc....

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/2015-16-season-ratings-new-tv-shows-week-35/

#6 Overall for new shows

And was consistently compared to the two new shows "Blindspot" NBC and "Quantico" ABC that were HITS by industry standards, yet one was #4, only 2 spots above "Supergirl" and the other was #17 (Quantico).

The inconsistency of the data is astounding....

One has Quantico # 3 with 2.6 ratings and another has it at #17 with 1.24 ratings.

 

[DigificWriter]

I think the evidence is pretty clear that Supergirl was never in any danger when it comes to the ratings. It just so happens that a combination of factors - licensing cost, cost of shooting in L.A., and the close relationship between CBS and The CW - made moving the series from CBS to The CW the most feasible option going forward.

 

[metaphysician]

Actually, I think the real problem was CBS' decision to get out of genre TV entirely. Even if Supergirl had stronger ratings, it probably would have been killed/transferred.

 

[famicommander]

The season premiere did a preliminary 1.1 rating, which is the highest demographic rating in that timeslot in over eight years on CW.

It also tied the other two DC shows airing last night, as Gotham and Lucifer both posted 1.1s in the preliminaries as well.

 

[Robert_Anthony]

Was thinking between 1.0-1.2....this falls right in the middle. Also the ratings are up triple digits from last year’s show in the slot, “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend” which has been sent to Fridays. I do not worry as much about the ratings on the CW because there aren't really a lot of established TV stations in big markets. This is even though the CW has WPIX and KTLA as their flagships in NYC and LA respectively. I also think CW affailiates in the Southern US were affected by the coverage of the flooding from Hurricane Matthew. What is thought of as a ratings disappointment on the big four, even though Gotham scored the same as Supergirl on the now 30-year old Fox) is a hit on the CW, the former WB Network. Once again so called reality show juggernauts like The Voice (which is no American Idol) and Dancing with the Stars (whicb is wearing thin if you ask me) seem to run Monday nights.

 

[famicommander]

from a comment on spotted ratings;

Supergirl season 1 finale on CBS: 0.7 in A18-34, 1.3 in A18-49, 1.8 in 25-54, 6.1m viewers
Supergirl season 2 premiere on The CW: 0.9 in A18-34, 1.1 in A18-49, 1.2 in A25-54, 3.0m viewers

That's about the clearest picture you could get of the difference between CBS and CW. Old people.

 

[justlooking]

Those three age ranges overlap. You'd have to be more precise. People are creatures of habit. If you have a Nielsen box and you like to keep your tv on CBS then chances are you won't give other networks a chance. The only real way to track viewing habits would be a big brother give up privacy/anonymity scenario.

 

[Sithborg]

Actually, I think the real problem was CBS' decision to get out of genre TV entirely. Even if Supergirl had stronger ratings, it probably would have been killed/transferred.

(goes on rant about Limitless)

 

[metaphysician]

Sounds like the transfer is a big success. The numbers aren't as big, sure, but proportionate to network size they are as big or bigger.

 

[famicommander]

1) Supergirl was doing fine in the ratings in the first season.

2) Supergirl is doing fine in her own universe. It's the other shows who need the rub from her. Their numbers weren't that great, especially Arrow and Legends.

Supergirl's ratings weren't fine, though. They weren't enough for CBS to renew them... which is why they moved the show to Vancouver and moved it to a smaller sister network.

Shows with fine ratings relative to their budget and network size don't get relocated to a new network and new country. No matter how the producers or network talking heads want to spin it, that's the reality of the situation.

Again, you can't just compare shows apples-to-apples across networks and across budgets like that.

Supergirl has lost about half of it viewers from last season but it's still relatively more successful than it was on CBS. Arrow's numbers were lower than Supergirl's but you don't look at that in a vacuum. Last season Supergirl wasn't in competition with Arrow, Flash, or Legends. It was in competition with other shows on CBS, and the other Arrowverse shows were in competition with other CW shows.

It's fun to compare stats between shows across networks (I do it too) but you can't confuse the absolute difference in the number values with a difference in success.

Eh, Flash's ratings were fine, and probably better than Supergirl's relative to network size. Note that when the original crossover happened, *Supergirl's* ratings got a major bump.

Not probably, absolutely.

The Flash is, by far, the most successful show in the history of the CW. And it's easily the most successful Marvel or DC show to come out since at least the 1970s.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Eh, Flash's ratings were fine, and probably better than Supergirl's relative to network size. Note that when the original crossover happened, *Supergirl's* ratings got a major bump.

At the time the crossover was planned Supergirl was doing well enough in the ratings. By the time the cross-over happened the rating had dropped enough that the bump
seemed like a big deal. And Flash also got a big bump in the ratings that week. Perhaps by Supergirl viewers watching to see how Flash connected with Supergirl.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Sounds like the transfer is a big success. The numbers aren't as big, sure, but proportionate to network size they are as big or bigger.

Numbers wise Supergirl is closer to Flash than to Arrow. And huge compared to what Crazy Ex-Girlfriend got on Mondays last season. Definite win for the CW.

 

[vantheman77]

Supergirl's ratings weren't fine, though. They weren't enough for CBS to renew them... which is why they moved the show to Vancouver and moved it to a smaller sister network.

Shows with fine ratings relative to their budget and network size don't get relocated to a new network and new country. No matter how the producers or network talking heads want to spin it, that's the reality of the situation.

Again, you can't just compare shows apples-to-apples across networks and across budgets like that.

Supergirl has lost about half of it viewers from last season but it's still relatively more successful than it was on CBS. Arrow's numbers were lower than Supergirl's but you don't look at that in a vacuum. Last season Supergirl wasn't in competition with Arrow, Flash, or Legends. It was in competition with other shows on CBS, and the other Arrowverse shows were in competition with other CW shows.

It's fun to compare stats between shows across networks (I do it too) but you can't confuse the absolute difference in the number values with a difference in success.


Not probably, absolutely.

The Flash is, by far, the most successful show in the history of the CW. And it's easily the most successful Marvel or DC show to come out since at least the 1970s.

Supergirl would have been renewed by CBS if it didn't go to CW.

 

[famicommander]

Supergirl would have been renewed by CBS if it didn't go to CW.

They can say that now because they don't actually have to deal with that alternative scenario. They gain nothing by saying they were going to cancel it.

Regardless, even if they had renewed it, you don't relocate a show to a much cheaper country if the ratings are what you were expecting/hoping they were when you started. They knew how much it would cost to shoot in LA and made the choice to shoot there anyway, expecting that the ratings would justify the expenditure. They didn't.

You don't fix what isn't broken. Whatever mental gymnastics you want to go through to believe otherwise, a show that's doing well doesn't get shipped to a smaller network and relocated to a new country a year into its run.

 

[Kelly]

The cast and show runners along with the CW are VERY HAPPY WITH the numbers of this first episode. They were all a twitter.