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Discussion in 'Gotham' started by famicommander, Sep 22, 2015.
HH numbers for Gotham are looking horrible today.
The 18-49 was a 0.9, the same as it has been for the previous six weeks. And total viewers was almost the same. So it's all good.
Gotham ratings so far this season.
It would be nice if they were higher, but how many other shows on TV have this rock solid of ratings? Most other shows seem to be dropping each week.
Oh, there is one...
I give you... Crazy Ex-Girfriend!!
That'd be impressive if they weren't so low
I think when a show drops down that low it gets lost in statistical error. Most shows get cancelled with numbers like that so it isn't so obvious.
Gotham is a show that still has high enough numbers that a drop would be more obvious.
... And nobody got the joke...
Okay so today there's news about Disney and Fox apparently making a deal before the end of the year and everyone is talking about anti-trust and X-Men while I'm here just concerned about Gotham's future.
In other news Gifted got 0.8 yesterday so Gotham's 0.8 last week (in a week we saw a few season lows) doesn't look too bad.
Unlike most shows that get cancelled, Gotham has a realistic chance of being picked up by Netflix or the new DC streaming service. That's not to say I think Fox will cancel Gotham, with or without the Disney buyout. And it's not to say that if it DOES get cancelled, it will definitely be picked up somewhere else. But it has a real chance, for a few reasons.
Netflix already pays Warner Brothers for Gotham per episode for repeats; it's not too much of a stretch to think they might want to just keep the whole thing in-house. This is similar to what we recently saw with WB's adaptation of Sabrina the Teenage Witch being moved from the CW straight to Netflix.
And the new DC streaming service will need original content. DC's massive TV and film back catalog will only get them so far. As far as I know, the only original shows planned for it are Titans, the Young Justice revival, and the Harley Quinn animated series. That's a hell of a start but three shows do not make a successful streaming service.
Streaming sucks because I can't stream.
So, averaging just under a million people per episode?
The numbers denote percentage of households in the 18-49 agegroup, which is what advertisers commonly pay for. Season four hovers between 2.5 and 3 million viewers, roughly, but that's immaterial.
Oh, ok. So what should the 18 - 49 numbers be for the show to be considered safe?
For Fox anything above a 1.0 is considered safe and anything below is in danger.
Here are the averages for each network. Anything in gray is in more danger of being cancelled.
Gifted is renewed. X-Files comes back at 1.4, 911 premiers at 1.8.
We still dont know what Residents will perform in Spring but I think all scripted shows except B99, Exorcist and Ghosted will be renewed. Hence Gotham might be moved to Friday next year.
Ive not been in this thread before. Is Gotham in danger of being cancelled?
Id say that at the start of the season it was more likely than not canceled this year (but still near 50/50), but then all other Fox shows drop steadily while Gotham is quite stable. Its probably moved to Likely renewed category now.
Oh right, good to know. Thanks.
So The Resident pilot posted 1.0, barely better than Lucifer. Considering it and X-Files might not come back, Gothams chance of renewal is looking good. Dont know if it will be moved to Friday though, since I heard somewhere that both Gifted and The Orville are getting 18 episodes (maybe 911 will too).
What day does the show air on now? And Friday is a worse slot?
It starts to air on Thursday at 8 this year to lead-in for Orville, in previous seasons it was on Monday at 8.
Friday is considered the graveyard for TV shows, since ratings on Friday is lowest (compared to Sun-Thu) and revenue from ads is also lowest. Usually networks dumb low-rated shows whose rating doesn't matter on Friday to minimize damage (since those shows will get low rating anyway). Recent examples: Inhuman (already produced so it has to air anyway), SHIELD (weekly promos for MCU films), Jane the Virgin and Crazy Ex-girlfriend (awards).
Btw WB just announced Metropolis by EP Stephen and Danny Cannon about to debut on the DC streaming. In the off chance Fox cancels Gotham I hope Stephen and Cannon can move Gotham there.
Thanks for that info
I heard about Metropolis. Move Gotham to streaming for rewatching or for it to continue being made just for DC streaming?
For it to continue just for DC streaming. I imagine Gothams old seasons are going to keep streaming on Netflix anyway.
Oh right, if thats a possibility then it would still be fine with me. As long as there is some way for me to keep seeing it and for them to justify making it in case ratings fall too much.