All New, All Different X-Men Teaser

[Iron Man]

Marvel's latest teaser shows a few dead X-Men and a few Madrox dupes.

 

[Dread]

If it's just reviving some dead X-Men, then it's neither new or different. That's a bait and switch!

Maybe it's the X-Men's obligatory CHAOS WAR mini.

 

[runawayboulder]

Regardless, Banshee fans will rejoice.

 

[Dread]

Unless it is really a CHAOS WAR mini, in that case his odds of being dead again are a coin toss. That would really be the most logical option.

I mean, the original James Proudstar is sort of like those longtime dead Avengers who keep coming back in THE LEGION OF THE UNLIVING. His replacements have mattered more than he sure has.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Banshee has to stay around after this. I like Brubaker but killing him off was incredibly stupid. If anyone can challenge Cyclops' leadership, it's him.

 

[Havok83]

what the heck is Chaos War?

 

[Dread]

CHAOS WAR is a mini coming up next month that is the finale to the Greg Pak/Fred Van Lente run on Hercules material. It is the climax to 3 years of INCREDIBLE HERCULES as well as the last half year of HERCULES: FALL OF AN AVENGER and PRINCE OF POWER. It is about the death god Mikaboshi becoming the "Chaos King" and threatening all reality, which sparks Herc to assemble a new "God Squad" to take him out (much as Herc and another God Squad took out the Skrull gods during Secret Invasion). The gist is that apparently the warping of reality may cause some dead characters to revive.

Hence, we are getting a lot of spin off material with teases for that. There is a DEAD AVENGERS series (written by Van Lente) that has a team of dead Avengers, including ones dead for decades like Mar-Vell or Swordsman, returning due to it. There'll be an ALPHA FLIGHT one shot teasing the return of the Flighters who Collective killed (which was damn near all of 'em but Sasquatch). The X-Men usually have a token mini in every major Marvel event, so I am assuming this'll be it.

I have no illusions about EVERY character that is teased with returning due to CHAOS WAR actually being back. Marvel has choked several times lately about reviving or replacing Mar-Vell, especially with them wanting to have Ms. Marvel branch off and be more well known (which she probably is by now). I have no expectations of the original Thunderbird, who has been dead longer than many of us have been alive, was created just to die, and has had two replacements take his name, would be back. But Banshee? I'd say his odds are 1:2.

I do agree his death was worthless in DEADLY GENESIS, one of Brubaker's biggest blunders. I'd certainly like to see him back.

 

[Havok83]

thanks. The concept though sounds too similar to Necrosha which JUST happened in the X books earlier this year. A bunch of dead X-men were revived and it seems too soon to have yet another event which revives them all over again. I remember many criticizing that as a rup off of DC's Blackest Night, but that sounds even closer to it.

FYI, Thunderbird and Banshee were among the dead X-men who were revived in Necrosha. Thunderbird died again but Banshee along with the majority of the Necroshan mutants whereabouts were left unknown and it hasnt been followed up in the books at all

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I want Nightcrawler back.

 

[Dread]

Apparently Marvel is keen on Nightcrawler's death not being immediately reversed, hence why he isn't teased here.

Another angle to the resurrection teasers, that Fred Van Lente explained, is that they tend to involve characters whose deaths were less-than-glorious or were even ignored. Both Thunderbird and Banshee apply, although Marvel's regime may see Kurt as a "necessary sacrifice" for now.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I don't care what it is....if it means Banshee will be back, then the story is worth being told.

 

[Havok83]

I don't care what it is....if it means Banshee will be back, then the story is worth being told.

thats if he is really brought back and they dont do a Necrosha on him again

 

[Dread]

If CHAOS WAR is as important as Marvel wants us to believe, then some of the resurrections have to stick.

After all, the Distinguished Competition just revived a messload of characters, called it BRIGHTEST DAY and it's selling quite well. So don't think Marvel won't get resurrection happy to match.

It's started here and there. Secret Invasion was an excuse to bring Mockingbird back. And Namorita actually came back in NOVA (leaving Dwayne Taylor and Microbe the only NW's from Stamford who stayed dead). So some of the resurrections could stick.

 

[Havok83]

Jean Grey is still dead

 

[Dread]

Only because the only element from the Grant Morrison run of X-Men that has been allowed to stick is Frost being with Cyclops, which is impossible if Jean is back. At least according to editorial.

 

[Havok83]

I dont see that as impossible considering they've done their best to make sure that Scott/Jean are as dead as she is. I dont see him going back to her or her wanting him back even if she did return. The way Fraction gives his interviews, he says that Emma is the love of Scott's life not Jean and they've really downplayed the importance she had all these decades. I dont think editorial views them as the star crossed lovers like they once were. They were the X-mens equivalent to Reed and Sue Richards. Now, she's simply just another ex

One thing I will say though is that I hope the Deadly Genesis X-men are revived. I thought Sway and Petra were too cool to be wasted the way they were. They had original powersets among the X-men but instead they got killed off while Darwin and Vulcan lived and we've already had characters with those powers

 

[Dread]

Marvel editorial doesn't like any marriage that was organized before the Joe Q tenure unless it was grandfathered in by Stan Lee personally, such as the Richards marriage. Of course, Marvel is teasing that one of the Four will die for a bit, and there's a 25% chance (at least) that means someone will be a widow(er).

But Luke Cage's marriage to Jessica Jones? Or T'Challa's marriage to Storm? Kismet. Immaculate. Unbreakable. Inflexible.

Any other marriage? Sham. Stunt. Old fogies. Kids today clearly cannot connect to married people.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm guessing it's a Chaos War tie-in. What really confuses me are the Madrox dupes. Are those every dupe that's ever died? How does that work? They're not really people, per se, they're just splinters of Jamie's personality.

 

[squeekness]

I want Nightcrawler back.

I want Wild Child. I was bummed when Omega Red killed him off. What a waste.

 

[Hush]

How in Blue **** did Nightcrawler die?

 

[Iron Man]

How in Blue **** did Nightcrawler die?

When the mutant messiah, Hope, returned to the present after a few years spent in the future, Nightcrawler was part of a team sent to protect her. He and Rogue were bringing Hope back to Utopia when they were ambushed by Bastion. Bastion impaled Nightcrawler, who managed to get Hope to Utopia in one final teleport before dying.

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

I have a theory on this, i believe they have written Nightcrawler out for a reason. 2012, since house of m, there has been this background arc that has you feeling something big is going to happen. They have involved Azazel more in the stories and over the past two years it has been a juggling act with the x-men ranks. if someone is going someone is staying and when someone is staying another leaves.

I think there is going to be an epic game changing story for 2012, why? well alot of people dont really believe in the mayan calander thing. But because the year is significant, you could imagine a fully powered magneto, or apocaylpse or big villian character like that make 2012 the day the world changes. which is why im expect Nightcrawler and Jean to return.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I have a theory on this, i believe they have written Nightcrawler out for a reason. 2012, since house of m, there has been this background arc that has you feeling something big is going to happen. They have involved Azazel more in the stories and over the past two years it has been a juggling act with the x-men ranks. if someone is going someone is staying and when someone is staying another leaves.

I'm a little lost here. When since Draco has Azazel been seen? I'd love to see his return, as I'm one of one people who liked Draco... but I've not heard hide nor hair of him since that storyline ended.

 

[JP]

Jean Grey is still dead

 

[Dread]

This teaser has been confirmed as CHAOS WAR: X-MEN by the latest CUP O' JOE interview at CBR with Tom Brevoort & Axel Alonso. I even made a topic linking it.