BatFan1986
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Na na na na na na na na NOLAN!!! NOLANNNN! NOOOOOOLLANNN!
Sorry...Mountain Dew first thing in the morning...
Sorry...Mountain Dew first thing in the morning...
Fantasy TV is now The Lord of the Rings!
Heroes are moving to the Movies sections!
Na na na na na na na na NOLAN!!! NOLANNNN! NOOOOOOLLANNN!
Sorry...Mountain Dew first thing in the morning...
But you couldn't prove me wrong with anything else, is that why you avoided the rest of what I wrote? I guess simple people like to settle for the most tiniest, weak and insignificant victories. As I said.. 4 out of 55 movies.
You better believe it.
Trust me lots of people hate B89
I guess it's the same reason why you avoided the rest of what I wrote. You comment on my opinion of Keaton, but conveniently ignored the rest of the post entirely.
And whether it was 55 out of 55 or 4 out of 55, the point was proving you wrong...which I did.
CFE
I take it your the type of person who takes down one piece in Checkers and considers it the greatest accomplishment in a life time?
If your going to grasp for straws, you could have tried to grab a handful..
Actually if I had to call it, I'm the kind of person that would play Chess over Checkers...since Chess takes thought and Checkers is extremely lame.
And technically it wasn't a 'victory,' as you put it, at all. You made a snap comment and all I did was point out that the comment was wrong. Had I known you were going to get defensive and try to cover yourself in spite of being wrong, I wouldn't have said anything.
CFE
But the thing is, you think that pointing 4 movies out of the 55 movies he has done makes my claims of him carrying the way he preformed as Bruce Wayne into other roles wrong, one of them being a movie that came out before Batman 1989..
I think once Jack was on board of course the writing had to change in order to accommodate the actor and don't forget Nicholson was a much higher paid actor than Keaton.Also, I think not only is Batman overrated, so is Jack's Joker. I cant stand the attitude/ego, dialogue, & esp. the dancing.
So Michael Keaton also acted like he did as Wayne in Night Shift, Mr. Mom, Johnny Dangerously, Gung Ho, Clean and Sober, The Paper, Live from Baghdad and Much Ado About Nothing right?
ummm.... yeah.
While we're at it could somebody please finally explain to me what was unjoker like about Nicholson's Joker performance especially considering that performance within the context of everything Joker related up to 1988. I've always been curious.
It was a perfect portrayal of Joker from the comics at the time just as Ceasar Romero was a perfect Joker for his time (Really. Go back and read Batman comics from the early 60's and you will see).
What a lot of fanboys seem to forget, or not understand simply because they are too young, is that Batman '89 was just as big a fanboy dream when it bowed as Begins was in '05....bigger! Batmania was absolutely crazy. And you really have to hand it to Burton. It was his dark quirkiness that showed a public that had mainly grown on the TV show, what a complex Universe Batman exists in. If not for Burton's bizarre style which was a perfect fit, Nolan's take may never have come into existence.
ok, threw this on the other day just to participate more in this thread. We can go on and on about its faithfulness to the Batman mythos. I still enjoyed the movie as much as ever but if I want to be nitpicky, my issues are more silly things than anything:
- Bruce Wayne being this mysterious man that no one really knows anything about. And how it's a total shock to Vale and Knox to find out Thomas and Martha Wayne were murdered. Nice job knowing the town you cover, Knox!
- In a city with corruption issues, you have the Commissioner and DA throwing dice in Bruce Wayne's living room.
- Billy Dee Williams' Ghost and Goblins line with the cigar in his mouth.
I half expected Lando to whip out a bottle of Colt 45 right there.
- Napier blasts Eckhart, Batman just stands and watches.
- Gordon says any man that open fires on Napier will answer to him. Napier has his back turned and the cops just start firing away! You got great command of you troops there, commish!
- Bruce is downing champagne and then off to fight crime!!! (don't give me the DKR cider bit, because he's clearly drinking wine with Vale later in the film)
- Bruce channeling Beetlejuice in the "you wanna get nuts!" moment. ...actually, nevermind, I liked that part.
Exactly WHAT the Batman should be to Gotham citizens is an urban legend. I'm fine with the notion of Gotham citizens not knowing exactly what Batman is. There is fear in the unknown and Batman wants to be feared. And, after all, that is what Batman tries to do by lurking in the shadows. Using exploding gas pellets to make himself appear and disappear and so on.
The cops are corrupt in Gotham.
Of course if there is one thing I have to disagree is on Nicholson's casting that aside from the menacing grin and uncanny eyebrows Jack physically (old and pudgy) doesn't resemble Joker from the comics.
I have no problem with the line itself, it was just Williams delivery and demeanor at that moment. Hence the Colt 45 comment.
Well, when your DA and Commish are shooting craps at the local playboy's crib what else would you expect!t:
My list wasn't so much critiques as much as things in the movie I get a chuckle out of. Just like in Begins, how the only way Batman couldn't be linked to Wayne Enterprises is if Lucius had every engineer, Department of Defense and government official assasinated after the Tumbler project had been shutdown.
I have no problem with the line itself, it was just Williams delivery and demeanor at that moment. Hence the Colt 45 comment.
Well, when your DA and Commish are shooting craps at the local playboy's crib what else would you expect!t:
My list wasn't so much critiques as much as things in the movie I get a chuckle out of. Just like in Begins, how the only way Batman couldn't be linked to Wayne Enterprises is if Lucius had every engineer, Department of Defense and government official assasinated after the Tumbler project had been shutdown.