Comics Amazing Spider-Man 601 Preview [SPOILERS]

[Styleshift]

Thanks for at least understanding why it really struck me hard clones.
I respect your view and your story.

You didn't shove it in my face as "oh he's just having fun. Forget about it just relax, marvel is only trying to get overreaction from fans. That's a good think *wink wink*."

You told your story and still respected my opinion about it. I appreciate that very much.

 

[Themanofbat]

I don't want to dismiss you're experiences, Style. They obviously shape your opinion on this matter.

Let me instead share with you this: my brother and I would probably be considered "goody-goodie" by a lot of people. Don't smoke, don't drink, never did drugs. In fact, the only real vice we have is comics and Star Wars. Pretty vanilla lifestyle, probably, according to most. In fact, at a wedding once, I asked him why he wasn't drinking (not hard stuff, just some beer), he said that he didn't want his kids to see him sloppy. So, on balance pretty tame. But, that didn't stop either of us from getting good and sloshed at my sisters wedding. Or my best friend's. Or having a few shots after my grandmother's funeral.

I don't think alcoholism should be taken lightly (in fact, I feel that I have an addictive personality, which is why I've never gone overboard with it.) But, I think I can forgive Pete an event or two or celebrating outside where he would normally go.

I'm going to call you Vanilla Clones from now on... t: t: t:

 

[Themanofbat]

Thanks for at least understanding why it really struck me hard clones.
I respect your view and your story.

You didn't shove it in my face as "oh he's just having fun. Forget about it just relax, marvel is only trying to get overreaction from fans. That's a good think *wink wink*."

You told your story and still respected my opinion about it. I appreciate that very much.

We're in the same boat... both my father AND father-in-law were alcoholics when the wife and I were kids... (obviously, I didn't know her Dad at the time, but we've shared stories), so I can understand the disdain felt from seeing Peter hammered... and I can respect your choice.

I don't even see it as "Peter having fun"... I saw it as him being nervous because MJ was there, and not knowing when to stop, he just drank to that point where "control" was lost (and that doesn't take much to such a novice like Peter) and probably had a few more because of his nerves...

THAT's how I choose to see it and I'm cool with it...

Cheers,

Mike

 

[iloveclones]

I'm going to call you Vanilla Clones from now on... t: t: t:

Cloneshizzle in a previous life...

 

[Yorokei]

Well, I guess I could give you my five cents on it .

Actually, I agree with Styleshift on this one. The problem really isn't about who Peter slept with, the problem for me is Peter getting plastered. And not just a bit, but severely. It just doesn't seem to fit the character at all... In all these years, I've never actually seen Peter so drunk to the point where he can't remember how he got home. And that's a bad thing to me.

Why do I feel so strongly about this? Perhaps that's because Peter -not Spider-Man-, has been quite a role model for me as I grew up. I really liked his values and general outlook on life. Peter is a very decent guy. Perhaps I even took a little bit too much after Peter in the end. I, for one, RARELY drink, though I've also got medicin to consider. Still, I don't like drinking, and never actually get 'drunk'. Though this may appear a bit 'silly' to all the party-people out there, I have learned to accept that I am not that way. And looking back, I think Peter was a lot like that, too. This... is just out of character for me, and a bit of a smack in the face. I actually had to re-read the thing a few times before I was sure I understood it right.

Still, I am not VERY mad. Just saying it's really out of character, and that I'm a bit dissapointed. I really hope that it's all a bad joke, but we'll see. I haven't been buying ASM since 'One More Day', anyway... And this isn't quite goading me into picking it up again.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

About all this...

I can honestly say, I don't care. In the context of Brand New Day, if Peter is single, why shouldn't he be getting some action? He's a normal, 20-something guy. Normal 20-something guys have sex, sometimes even... *gasp*... one night stands! Shocking, I know. And I fail to see, as another poster seemed to imply, the correlation between a one night stand and snorting coke (moralizing much?). And if anyone comes at me with that tired "but Spider-Man wouldn't do this or that, because he's a role-model for kids and/or an impossibly perfect celibate and moral superhero!" I will respond "Yeah, sure. Spider-Man. Not Peter Parker. He's not asexual, and like most people he gets lonely and/or horny at times too. Peter Parker's popularity is rooted in being human, not perfect like Superman." (I've actually seen (not here, but elsewhere) people make passionate arguments about why Peter never did it with Black Cat) If you oppose it for moral reasons, well, that might have made sense back in the 60's, but nowadays the average comic-book reader is more likely to be 22 than 12. Some people claim that comics are mature and get (rightfully) offended when others denigrate it as a past-time for kids, but then those same people get angry when they see sex (or even the implication of it) depicted in those books they defend as mature. You can't have your cake and eat it too. We're not seeing anything in the Spider-Man books that hasn't been seen in more detail in network shows like "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" or "Lost". If people ever want comics to be taken seriously, they have to get over their childish moral objections to a natural act like sex being depicted in its pages.

EDIT: One more thing. As for the drinking part, it's natural (even if you're not a drinker) to do so during times of stress... or if you're trying to scrounge up some courage. Peter's clone, Ben Reilly, sure got tanked in those Lost Years back-ups if I remember correctly. Doesn't mean Pete's getting rewritten as a wino.

 

[Galactus]

About all this...

I can honestly say, I don't care. In the context of Brand New Day, if Peter is single, why shouldn't he be getting some action? He's a normal, 20-something guy. Normal 20-something guys have sex, sometimes even... *gasp*... one night stands!

He probably didn't "get some action". They obviously want the readers to belive that he did, and therefore I think it's safe to say he didn't. It's like the Jackpot-mystery and how obvious it was that they wanted readers to belive it was MJ. Still, the truth about this situation will likely turn out to be something incredibly lame. Bad sitcom-lame.

 

[Styleshift]

We're in the same boat... both my father AND father-in-law were alcoholics when the wife and I were kids... (obviously, I didn't know her Dad at the time, but we've shared stories), so I can understand the disdain felt from seeing Peter hammered... and I can respect your choice.

I don't even see it as "Peter having fun"... I saw it as him being nervous because MJ was there, and not knowing when to stop, he just drank to that point where "control" was lost (and that doesn't take much to such a novice like Peter) and probably had a few more because of his nerves...

THAT's how I choose to see it and I'm cool with it...

Cheers,

Mike

Thanks.

Well, I guess I could give you my five cents on it .

Actually, I agree with Styleshift on this one. The problem really isn't about who Peter slept with, the problem for me is Peter getting plastered. And not just a bit, but severely. It just doesn't seem to fit the character at all... In all these years, I've never actually seen Peter so drunk to the point where he can't remember how he got home. And that's a bad thing to me.

Why do I feel so strongly about this? Perhaps that's because Peter -not Spider-Man-, has been quite a role model for me as I grew up. I really liked his values and general outlook on life. Peter is a very decent guy. Perhaps I even took a little bit too much after Peter in the end. I, for one, RARELY drink, though I've also got medicin to consider. Still, I don't like drinking, and never actually get 'drunk'. Though this may appear a bit 'silly' to all the party-people out there, I have learned to accept that I am not that way. And looking back, I think Peter was a lot like that, too. This... is just out of character for me, and a bit of a smack in the face. I actually had to re-read the thing a few times before I was sure I understood it right.

Still, I am not VERY mad. Just saying it's really out of character, and that I'm a bit dissapointed. I really hope that it's all a bad joke, but we'll see. I haven't been buying ASM since 'One More Day', anyway... And this isn't quite goading me into picking it up again.

Well at least you read my post.

About all this...

I can honestly say, I don't care. In the context of Brand New Day, if Peter is single, why shouldn't he be getting some action? He's a normal, 20-something guy. Normal 20-something guys have sex, sometimes even... *gasp*... one night stands! Shocking, I know. And I fail to see, as another poster seemed to imply, the correlation between a one night stand and snorting coke (moralizing much?). And if anyone comes at me with that tired "but Spider-Man wouldn't do this or that, because he's a role-model for kids and/or an impossibly perfect celibate and moral superhero!" I will respond "Yeah, sure. Spider-Man. Not Peter Parker. He's not asexual, and like most people he gets lonely and/or horny at times too. Peter Parker's popularity is rooted in being human, not perfect like Superman." (I've actually seen (not here, but elsewhere) people make passionate arguments about why Peter never did it with Black Cat) If you oppose it for moral reasons, well, that might have made sense back in the 60's, but nowadays the average comic-book reader is more likely to be 22 than 12. Some people claim that comics are mature and get (rightfully) offended when others denigrate it as a past-time for kids, but then those same people get angry when they see sex (or even the implication of it) depicted in those books they defend as mature. You can't have your cake and eat it too. We're not seeing anything in the Spider-Man books that hasn't been seen in more detail in network shows like "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" or "Lost". If people ever want comics to be taken seriously, they have to get over their childish moral objections to a natural act like sex being depicted in its pages.

EDIT: One more thing. As for the drinking part, it's natural (even if you're not a drinker) to do so during times of stress... or if you're trying to scrounge up some courage. Peter's clone, Ben Reilly, sure got tanked in those Lost Years back-ups if I remember correctly. Doesn't mean Pete's getting rewritten as a wino.

No one here is making a complaint about Peter getting in bed with a woman.

*sigh* I give up.
There is no "childish objection" going on.

I have very good reasons for not liking the fact that Peter is so hammered he can't remember what happened and why he is laying naked next to a naked woman. I don't even care if she's Mj.

and Maybe you didn't pay attention during the clone saga, but although Ben was a clone. He was written a little differently from Peter.
Ben's whole life was shattered. He was living on the streets.

Peter acted irresponsibly because his ex showed up at his Aunt's wedding (which he was having fun at until than)

I like you JJJ Ulcer but you need to be more thoughtful with your posts in the future. You went on ranting about something that NO ONE is complaining about.

We all knew that Peter would get into bed with another woman eventually. Mj has. But this?? This is just lame.

EDIT: I made a joke about him snorting coke because since OMD Peter has progressively made incredibly poor choices. It wasn't made to be serioous

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

No one here is making a complaint about Peter getting in bed with a woman.

*sigh* I give up.
There is no "childish objection" going on.

I have very good reasons for not liking the fact that Peter is so hammered he can't remember what happened and why he is laying naked next to a naked woman. I don't even care if she's Mj.

and Maybe you didn't pay attention during the clone saga, but although Ben was a clone. He was written a little differently from Peter.
Ben's whole life was shattered. He was living on the streets.

Peter acted irresponsibly because his ex showed up at his Aunt's wedding (which he was having fun at until than)

I like you JJJ Ulcer but you need to be more thoughtful with your posts in the future. You went on ranting about something that NO ONE is complaining about.

We all knew that Peter would get into bed with another woman eventually. Mj has. But this?? This is just lame.

EDIT: I made a joke about him snorting coke because since OMD Peter has progressively made incredibly poor choices. It wasn't made to be serioous

I like you too, Styleshift (and especially your recaps of story-lines) and my post wasn't even really directed at you, except for the "snorting coke" thing and that was just something I remembered when I was looking through the thread. I wasn't picking on you. I thought I saw someone moralizing about Peter's lifestyle choices, but if the objections are solely based on the Brand New Day direction, then I misconstrued what some were saying. In my defense, this thread seemed so instantly toxic (after one day, it has 50 replies) that after reading the first few posts, I gave up and skimmed the rest. And I did prefix my statement about moral objections with the conditional "if", so that was kinda a pre-emptive response to any moral crusaders that might pop up. t: And believe me, having unfortunately posted at comicboards, I've run into enough of those. If I seem heated or passionate, I'm not really. I just like my soapbox like everyone else on these boards. The only things I get truly heated about are politics.

 

[Styleshift]

That's understandable JJJ.
I don't really get THAT heated over this stuff either. Even with politics and idiot celebs, I may get mad for 2 seconds but than I just sigh it off.

I just get passionate when I type and it really tends to show.

(I'm actually more frustrated that I was getting excited for the coming year when I read ASM 600 preview back up. I gave them good faith and they pull this one on me)

But I think this was a bit much for me. In all honesty I don't care to see the outcome.
I'm just replying to whoever speaks to me here to be nice.

 

[SpideyInATree]

A few drinks? The guy clearly was intoxicated enough so that not only doesn't he barely remember the night before, he wound up in possibly his roommate's bed , thought it was MJ, and doesn't know whether or not he might have had sex with Michelle or not. That doesn't seem like he took a few drinks. That sounds like he got completely wasted. Granted, Peter Parker is only human and makes mistakes--he wouldn't be as interesting a character otherwise--but this is guy who supposed to value responsibility and this scenario makes him comes off as irresponsible regardless whether any hanky panky went on or not.

And if he had to drink that much in order to work up enough nerve to talk to his ex-fiancee (because, based on the last issue, he didn't seem to have any problems with his Aunt marrying Jonah's dad), it also makes him come across as immature as well, considering how we've been told that even though the marital status was retconned into being he and MJ were just living together "all the stories still count" which implies he's should be more mature, not less.

I understand that they're trying to create a scenario in which Peter is trying to cope with the reality of his ex-finance coming back to New York, and that by all accounts still has feelings for her despite the fact they've broken up months ago for as of yet unknown reasons we still don't know a year and a half later. But based on what happens here, it looks like Marvel is using a pretty well-worn sitcom plot development to achieve a desired result.



Oh, there's the strong possibility that nothing did in fact happen. Still doesn't make the situation appear any less cliched, though.

You are entitled to your opinion, sir.

 

[shinlyle]

Well, here's my opinion:

I don't care. He got tanked, woke up next to an rushed romantic interest. Wow.

Honestly, I knew something like this was going to happen eventually. I'm not reading it, so I don't care. I read 600, I liked it, and stuff like this is why I didn't take a chance and add it to my pull list. Marvel won't miss my money, and I won't miss this book. Simple as that.

Even as a detractor of the new status quo, I think this isn't that big of a deal. His marriage is undone, so he was going to get some nookie eventually. I don't like it, but this is the new path, and people are buying it (even people who hate it).

 

[SpideyInATree]

Well excuse me if I grew up with a Spider-man who's explanation for non drinking is because he has powers and does not want to handle them irresponsibly.

Nobody ever said he should be perfect. But if you read my earlier post you'd understand why I feel so strongly about POOR Alcohol use and my favorite character getting hammered.



LOL Aunt May was a HUGE Spidey hater. That never drove him to drinking.

What would hurt you more? For some random guy to talk crap about you (while nobody even knows who you are)

Or the woman that raised you thinking very poorly of you?? hmm?

He likes JJJ Sr. and so far we've seen him look up to him as a father figure.
The whole situation with JJJ seemed fun to him until Mj showed up. Than Aunt may tells him to go talk to her, so things can't be that bad.

(Unless he cheated on her with Black Cat. Which I'm sure would make alot of posters here happy and would divide fans even more.)


Peter getting so hammered he can't even remember what happened is VERY irresponsible. Would you go to work hammered? I would lose my job in the air force and alot of rights if I got hammered and in trouble. Tell me how many responsible things you can accomplish while drunk.

and no sitting on the toilet and passing out doesn't count.

A couple of years ago if someone told me there was a story about Spidey getting hammered like this, I would really laugh.




My god. Let me put this in bold.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SEX IT'S ABOUT HIM BEING HAMMERED. If he didn't do anything, If he even slept with Mj the fact that he was liquored up still matters.

That's what bothers me. I can't believe that you guys see absolutely nothing wrong with this. Some of you complained about Gwen Stacy getting knocked up and about the mystical spider totem.

But Peter getting so knocked up he can't remember anything is a good thing?? That's fun?

Overreactions. Well Marvel wants this to divide fans again. Good job. Lose sales.

I'm pretty sure now that you guys will read ANYTHING as long as it has Spider-man's name on it. Now I'm just a stupid baby spidey fan that doesn't know anything about fun.

Well, one thing I will say is that Aunt May not liking that "awful" Spider-Man was back in the Stan Lee era. Peter was either a teenager or in his late teens/early twenties.

From what I've read of the books that kind of wrote that out of cannon. Maybe with Brand New Day she still doesn't like that "awful" Spider-Man I really never saw her comment on Spider-Man too much.

Other than that. You're entitled to your opinion, sir.

 

[farmernudie]

Bottom line...the numbers are low for various reasons...economy, people not liking the reboot, spending 3X, etc, and maybe other reasons...

This sleeping with someone, if it happened, doesn't surprise me. Joe said long ago he wanted "love triangles".

The drunked part bothers me much more, personally.

Wouldn't let my kids read this, same as my parents wouldn't have let me. I am glad MArvel hadn't done this before, or I'd never have had a lifetime of spider-enjoyment and the role model that Pete was/is to me.

But, back to the low sales...this kind of stuff has ALL the FORUM SITES lit up...Joe again has people TALKING...and lots of immature little boys (lol) are gonna want to put their big boy pants on cwink and go pick this issue up because of the hype alone, that Pete was DRUNK and BEDDING WOMEN. Good sales strategy! Yes! Good story? No! Inevitable to have the mystically divorced couple sleeping or touching the opposite sex? Of course! Will MJ and PEte be back together someday? Of course! I just hope they don't sleep with too many people before they're eventually remembering they're married. Yuck.

Lots of good intelligent posts here guys! (TMOB, VanillaClonesy!, Styles!, others!!...just catching up on reading...got out of work early! woohoo!) ((You too SIAT!!!...funny, when i first got on here eons ago..lol...i found you offensive, now i ENJOY reading your well written posts, even if i don't agree!!)

Gotta go take off my under-roos and throw them in the wash....

(hey clonesy!...btw, i DID use "big boy pants" in a post..lol...and you'll find that's prolly the worst thing, if considered that...i've said...however, just for your info, we use big boy/girl pants/undies multiple times daily at the hospital...kinda a funny slogan we try to slip into convo daily as much as possible...so i personally consider it high-larry-us...i hope no was was offended, because i type tongue in cheek, alot, like i speak, yet i know typing is hard to "hear" the context when posted on a thread! )

((and i agree, there are uncordial posters on both sides of the coin.))

 

[Venom 1988]

As someone who has an alcoholic father and detest him for that, I see nothing wrong with Peter getting hammered at the wedding. I'm not a big drinker person myself, but at a special occasion such as this wedding, I see myself certainly going to be making a couple of trips to the bar. So whats the big deal?

 

[Jack O Lantern]

As someone who has an alcoholic father and detest him for that, I see nothing wrong with Peter getting hammered at the wedding. I'm not a big drinker person myself, but at a special occasion such as this wedding, I see myself certainly going to be making a couple of trips to the bar. So whats the big deal?

It's people putting their own moral sensiblities on to the character. Because they dislike drinking and think it is wrong, they automatically think that the character should agree with them on the issue.

 

[ScottishFogg]

It just hit me....spider-man comics are starting to feel like the TWEEN tv shows....the typical "trendy hip sexy show" that tries too hard....


"May's Anatomy"



t:

LOL!!! Fantastic, sir.

 

[farmernudie]

Jackolantern: It's people putting their own moral sensiblities on to the character. Because they dislike drinking and think it is wrong, they automatically think that the character should agree with them on the issue.

I think it sometimes is that people who've grown up with him (pete) feel like they are HIM, they see themsevles in him, their own choices and patterns thru him or him in them.

So, when he does stuff that doesn't feel or seem right, or make choices they themselves may not have, because of their model of behavior, whether they cognizantly recognize their source of modeled bahavior or not, they feel robbed or cheated because they themselves would not do that. Thus, the individual whose role model has supposedly veered off course, makes a mental disconnect in psyhce of the individual subject, so at some points in time, we are more aptly Peter Parker than he himself is, and the real Peter Parker is someone else entirely. And vise versa. This current subject of drunkeness might be one of those metaphoric situations with some fans.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

I think it sometimes is that people who've grown up with him (pete) feel like they are HIM, they see themsevles in him, their own choices and patterns thru him or him in them.

So, when he does stuff that doesn't feel or seem right, or make choices they themselves may not have, because of their model of behavior, whether they cognizantly recognize their source of modeled bahavior or not, they feel robbed or cheated because they themselves would not do that. Thus, the individual whose role model has supposedly veered off course, makes a mental disconnect in psyhce of the individual subject, so at some points in time, we are more aptly Peter Parker than he himself is, and the real Peter Parker is someone else entirely. And vise versa. This current subject of drunkeness might be one of those metaphoric situations with some fans.

Yeah and those people need to get over themselves.

 

[farmernudie]

I find it natural. (People who've been with Pete a long time may indeed see their world view thru him or any other role model)

I think everyone sees it different. An intelligent poster with his view on the drinking subject doesn't have to "get over themself" anymore than someone who doesn't blink twice at this. Tolerance.

 

[Styleshift]

It's people putting their own moral sensiblities on to the character. Because they dislike drinking and think it is wrong, they automatically think that the character should agree with them on the issue.

Sir, the character has 40 years of history.
Think about it. He's not invincible. He's been defined well enough by now.

I explained why I feel very strongly about the situation.
The funny thing is, they are writing for my age group. He's acting like a moron college kid. (yeah...I said it.)

Alot of the people in my age group act this irresponsibly. Is that really Peter Parker?

Anyways just like SIAT said. It's my opinion. I don't step on yours and say your wrong for saying Spidey should get plastered and laid. (Why stop at one naked woman? It would have been more hilarious if there were 2!) In every single media. Even the comics I were introduced to, he has upheld good moral standards. He's a decent person, and if you've been here and think I'm saying a decent person can't get drunk. Well I'm not saying that. I'm saying most people i know are not decent when they drink hard core.

I think your a decent person JOL. Even though half your posts offend me. I'm sorry if you feel offended like I'm talking down to you. I apologize

Yeah and those people need to get over themselves.

I get over myself every day. What do you do?
Anyways I'm moving to the spidermancrawlspace forums.

I'm you can talk to yourself now.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

I find it natural. (People who've been with Pete a long time may indeed see their world view thru him or any other role model)

I think everyone sees it different. An intelligent poster with his view on the drinking subject doesn't have to "get over themself" anymore than someone who doesn't blink twice at this. Tolerance.

Yes they do have to get over it. Peter Parker is not them so he will make his own mistakes.

He's done lots of stuff worse in the past including taking money from a crimelord anyway, so they can see themselves do that but can't see themselves getting drunk?

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Sir, the character has 40 years of history.
Think about it. He's not invincible. He's been defined well enough by now.

So he can never experience anything new? He's stuck in a loop is he?

It's funny, one of the most commonly used criticisms of BND is that it's all a rehash and he is doesn't do anything knew. Now that something new has happened the problem people have is that it hasn't happened before.

I explained why I feel very strongly about the situation.

And that just proved my point. Because you've had a crappy experience with alcohol and that formed your opinion of it, you assumed that Peter Parker had similar opinion.

The funny thing is, they are writing for my age group. He's acting like a moron college kid. (yeah...I said it.)

So people in their mid 20s don't get drunk?

Alot of the people in my age group act this irresponsibly. Is that really Peter Parker?

Peter often acts irresponsible. He has his motto but like a normal he wavers from that. That's why MJ knows how it feels to be smacked by him, that's why he crippled the Sin-Eater. Didn't he once have an affair with Betty when she was married to Ned?

Anyways just like SIAT said. It's my opinion. I don't step on yours and say your wrong for saying Spidey should get plastered and laid. (Why stop at one naked woman? It would have been more hilarious if there were 2!)

Dude, this may suprise you but I can visit the Crawl Space as well.

http://spidermancrawlspace.com/wwwboard/viewtopic.php?t=5241&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

Some just don't care because they think Brand new day is garbage regardless of what they do.

But alot of them are mainly defending this. As "oh well he's an everyman."

One guy even tried to make it look like it wasn't even irresponsible.

I'm moving to these boards. People have much more sense here.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Yes they do have to get over it. Peter Parker is not them so he will make his own mistakes.

He's done lots of stuff worse in the past including taking money from a crimelord anyway, so they can see themselves do that but can't see themselves getting drunk?

Aloha,
If Peter was drinking on a regular basis, it would be one thing. But, even people who are tea tootlers (sp?) drink at weddings. I know that's the only time I ever saw my mom drink.Peter not being a regular drinker and being Spider-Man would also not have a good indicator of how alcohol would affect him.I'm sure if studied by Reed Richards, Peter's metabolism processes alcohol and other poisons far more efficiently than a normal human(healing factor).Wolverine and Peter sitting down for drinks-there's a scene I don't want to see.I am the son of an alcoholic.I don't think that all people should abstain.One of the oldest men in the world drank a cup of saki every night.Not advocating that either. But, drinking and even getting drunk at someones wedding is not only American but part of many cultures around the world.
On another note-I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Peter is in the bed with Vin's sister and they did absolutely NOTHING!
I am a former Cub Scout and Altar boy-we're good, but we are not DEAD.
Spidey rules with moderation

 

[farmernudie]

J-LANTERN: It's funny, one of the most commonly used criticisms of BND is that it's all a rehash and he is doesn't do anything knew. Now that something new has happened the problem people have is that it hasn't happened before.

^LOL.....people aren't complaining for him to do odd new things, good grief......obviously you're not reading their posts and taking their FEELINGS and OPINIONS, their angles of it, seriously in the slightest....

DONTOM: I'm sure if studied by Reed Richards, Peter's metabolism processes alcohol and other poisons far more efficiently than a normal human(healing factor).Wolverine and Peter sitting down for drinks-there's a scene I don't want to see.

I was thinking THAT but didn't want to bring this point up.

It has been shown numerous times, that spidey heals and process's stuff quicker, just like Wolverine does.

Kraven and others have filled his body with worse toxins than alcohol,
and Pete has always waited on his body to filter it out and then make his move.

Soooo....Peter had to be HEAVILY HEAVILY SLOSHED, Beer Bath and Beyond, to get so drunk and not remember things. Logically, it would have taken Pete a couple kegs of alcohol to get like that, due to his advanced healing and body ability to process toxins out of his system very quickly. He and Wolverine, and prolly some other heroes...would need a TON of alcohol to get drunk.

So, how much did Pete drink at this wedding to get so plastered???!!!!