Comics Amazing Spider-Man 601 Preview [SPOILERS]

[Themanofbat]

While the better "anti-BNDers" (they know WHO they are ) are at least in true form (giving the 4 page preview the benefit of the doubt), the rest of the people are making me smile and reacting the way I said on the first or second page... it's hilarious and very ASSUMING... it's fun to know that in this day and age, you can still get people's goats...

t: t:

 

[farmernudie]

I've got quite the collection of goats myself!

They are good at eating the leftover empty spaghettio cans and mow the lawn to perfection.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

LOL....exactly my thinking Dacman.

Everyone tries new things...but it would be OUT OF CHARACTER FOR ME TOO IN REAL LIFE.....I'd never cheat on MY wife and get drunk and not know who i woke up with.......but none of my friends would tell me "i don't like to try new things" for doing THAT...lol....I'd never deal with the devil, especially give up my marriage to save an elderly aunt i love either...but Pete is a swinging hip guy now trying all SORTS of new things!

Look, Marvel wrote a SHOCKING scene. It is what it is. People shouldn't get mad and blame fans for being shocked by a scene meant to shock. It is silly to blame fans and claim Marvel Writers are unable to write anything shocking... If you weren't shocked at all, then that is fine too...maybe you watch lots of 90210....i dunno... though historically it is just not him, (I mean just because Pete doesn't normally jam waffles up his rear doesn't mean he won't next month, i understand) without getting into the fact his body quickly processes toxins and such differently than a normal human.

It would take buttloads to get Peter drunk enough not to NOT remember his actions ALL NITE LONG (great song!)...and i guess we've not talked about that before because it never came up since he doesn't do THAT. But, at least this is "'new"' discussion

What you think you would never do and what you could do are two different things. In real life there is no in or out of character. Because nobody knows how someone will react to a stituation until they are placed in that stituation. And that was the reason why I asked if you have tried anything new, because at some point people willl do things they hven't done before, for better or worse. You are others seem to think that people and characters are locked into certain behavourial paterns, that is both navie and untrue. People grow, change and evolve all the time and when they are thrown into new scenarios they will react in new and yes, sometimes dumb ways.

What's really sad to me is that somewhere along the line we lost the will to allow our hero's to **** up. Now they have to be shiny role models that always do right and never waver. It's what made Marvel and in particular Spider-Man different in the first place.

 

[SpideyInATree]

This is ridiculous, you have no idea what events transpired between Peter talking to MJ and him waking up in bed with Michele.

It's clear Peter or Michele were in any state to do anything. So i doubt they did anything under the sheets.
After talking to MJ, Pete could have stumbled home and just flopped in bed.. followed by a possible comatose Michele being laid in bed by another guest it just so happens it was the same bed.

Truth is you are all over reacting from 4 pages and have no idea how they got from A to B. Let the issue come out... then ***** and moan.

RaZ, it's no use. It's already been decided by many here that in that four page preview that Peter Parker is now a drug addicted, one night stand *****e bag.

Amazing what four pages of a comic can do!!

Isn't Mark Waid writing this too? The same Mark Waid who had an amazing run on The Flash and a great run on Fantastic Four? Because I'm sure Mark Waid, a fantastic comic writer, is sitting in his office going, "Gee, I want to piss off those pesky SuperHeroHype message boarders! They want to dislike Brand New Day, HA! I will show them! MWAHAHAHA!!!! I will totally throw my reputation as a good writer out of the window!"

Cut to Joe Quesada sitting at his desk, laptop out, and sitting on the Spider-Man comics forum of the Hype. "Yes. My master plan is almost complete. They think that Peter is now a drug addicted jerk. And when they read the full issue, oh and they will read the full issue, they will finally learn the TRUTH! YES! I will drive all of those posters mad because all they do is make fun of me! POOPY HEADS!!!"


Anyway, RaZ, this is the Hype. People are still jaded about One More Day and no matter what Marvel does with Spider-Man/Peter Parker now it's going to be criticized, poked, and prodded to the fullest extent. Yes, even a four page preview that no one knows what is going to happen after that fourth page.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

While the better "anti-BNDers" (they know WHO they are ) are at least in true form (giving the 4 page preview the benefit of the doubt), the rest of the people are making me smile and reacting the way I said on the first or second page... it's hilarious and very ASSUMING... it's fun to know that in this day and age, you can still get people's goats...

t: t:

You've been making me laugh alot lately, my friend. t:

 

[Venom 1988]

Some just don't care because they think Brand new day is garbage regardless of what they do.

But alot of them are mainly defending this. As "oh well he's an everyman."

One guy even tried to make it look like it wasn't even irresponsible.

I'm moving to these boards. People have much more sense here. ]

 

[stillanerd]

While the better "anti-BNDers" (they know WHO they are ) are at least in true form (giving the 4 page preview the benefit of the doubt), the rest of the people are making me smile and reacting the way I said on the first or second page... it's hilarious and very ASSUMING... it's fun to know that in this day and age, you can still get people's goats...

t: t:

So are you saying you're a schadenfreude, TMOB? t:

Well, this "irrational anti-BNDer," after some consideration, would "rationally" believe it is possible that what we think might have happened between Peter and Michelle might not have taken place due to the following: In the first place, the scene in question happens on page 4 of the story, which would seem like an odd place to put such a "shocker"--unless of course it was part of the overall premise of the story in which, like the movie, The Hangover, Peter has to remember what happened the night before. That makes the scene in which he wakes up naked in bed next to his equally naked roommate, Michelle, may not be as conclusive as it seems.

Secondly, the last thing Peter remembers is that he was talking to Mary Jane and by that point, he was clearly drunk. She obviously would have seen the state he was in and, considering that she would still care about him even though she is his "ex," most likely took him home. After all, he had to have gotten back somehow. Also, if Peter, due to his spider-related metabolism breaking down the effects of the alcohol and remembering what really happened, might take this as a "sign" that maybe MJ still loves him, and thus think "maybe there's a chance we could get back together?" thus setting up the rest of the "Red Headed Stranger" arc.

Finally, in the panel where Peter recollects trying to drunkenly talk to MJ, in the foreground there's two pairs of legs, a man's and a woman's. I could be wrong about this, but The woman's legs appear to be of a similar skin tone to Michelle's. Maybe Michelle hooked-up with some guy at the wedding and they went back to her and Peter's apartment first. Then, when MJ took Peter home, and Peter told her he'd be all right, he undressed and mistakenly crawled into Michelle's bed, thinking that it was his. Maybe, Peter and MJ even passed the guy Michelle took home leaving the apartment. Thus, you have the ingredients for a "typical Parker Luck" scenario in which Michelle, because she was drunk, believes that to her humiliation, slept with Peter while Peter eventually realizes that wasn't the case at all.

It still would be as contrived as the whole idea of the "roommates end up having a drunken one-night stand" scenario, however. Not to mention it also still sets up what I think the ultimate outcome will be--that Michelle throws Peter out of the apartment forcing him to move in with someone else, and allows Vin to dislike Peter even more because he mistakenly believes his former roommate took advantage of his sister while she was intoxicated, which still suggests Michelle is more of a plot device than a character.

 

[DACMAN]

Agreed. Peter Parker getting drunk and sleeping around? This is what Quesada decided to do with Marvels' flagship character? Turn him into a *****ebag?
I've said it before and I'll say it again...Marvel needs a new Editor-In-Chief, NOW.

I think you hit it on the head with calling him a *****ebag. That is exactly what they've turned him into. The scene is such a terrible scene over played in every other sitcom EVER created. "Oh, I had way to much to drink." Guy looks over sees half naked girl...

Do they really think it's clever?

Maybe in the next issue Peter can have two dates at the same time and comedy ensues. It's like they hired the writers from "Friends" or something to do Spider-Man.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I think you hit it on the head with calling him a *****ebag. That is exactly what they've turned him into. The scene is such a terrible scene over played in every other sitcom EVER created. "Oh, I had way to much to drink." Guy looks over sees half naked girl...

Do they really think it's clever?

Maybe in the next issue Peter can have two dates at the same time and comedy ensues. It's like they hired the writers from "Friends" or something to do Spider-Man.

I figure they can just take a note from Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson's "The Boys" and have Peter go online and hook up with an orgy group on a sex website and he just webslings back and forth from orgy to orgy. The Amazing Spider-Ogry Man.

I'm sure that will give you years of constant complaining on these boards!

 

[mre]

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!



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Use drug in a Sentence
–noun 1. Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
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b. any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.
c. any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.
d. any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.




So freaken ironic. So according to definition, alcohol is in fact a drug. So yes, the fact he drank to much is actually "drug abuse". I find your ignorance offensive.

Yes, technically alcohol is a drug. That's all I'm going to give you on this topic. Weather you want to admit it or not, having a drink is a lot different than sniffing coke or even smoking a joint. And jumping to the conclusion that he would logically move on to drugs just because he had one drunken night IS ignorant.

 

[DACMAN]

I think their point was that his morality compass is starting to look compromised. Obviously there is a difference, as one is legal and the rest are not. But the immorality of it stands with either substance abuse case. And I think that is what people take issue with. It's also legal to call someone a racial slur, but Peter wouldn't because it is out of character for him, as is substance abuse.

 

[DACMAN]

Yes, technically alcohol is a drug. That's all I'm going to give you on this topic. Weather you want to admit it or not, having a drink is a lot different than sniffing coke or even smoking a joint. And jumping to the conclusion that he would logically move on to drugs just because he had one drunken night IS ignorant.

Dude, you've got to stop using the word "ignorant" when you've just proven your "ignorance" about the topic at hand. It makes you look like a bonehead.

Just say that it is really jumping to conclusions on their part or something. Because if someone said that the next issue he would be smoking a joint, then it really seems like they were jumping to conclusions. But to call them ignorant just makes you look bad.

 

[DACMAN]

I figure they can just take a note from Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson's "The Boys" and have Peter go online and hook up with an orgy group on a sex website and he just webslings back and forth from orgy to orgy. The Amazing Spider-Ogry Man.

I'm sure that will give you years of constant complaining on these boards!

Is our discontent really all the offensive? You really seem to take a personal interest in the fact we thought it wasn't in character. Are you ok? Are you really that bored? I can understand disagreeing with us, but to take the time to be sarcastic or use hyperbole about it is weird.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!



drug  /drʌg/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [druhg] Show IPA noun, verb, drugged, drug⋅ging.
Use drug in a Sentence
–noun 1. Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
2. (in federal law) a. any substance recognized in the official pharmacopoeia or formulary of the nation.
b. any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.
c. any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.
d. any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.




So freaken ironic. So according to definition, alcohol is in fact a drug. So yes, the fact he drank to much is actually "drug abuse". I find your ignorance offensive.

Hey, doesn't caffeine affect you? So, caffeine's a drug.... and it's in soda... and Peter has GASP drank soda in the past! PETER'S A DRUG ADDICT!!

It's funny you find his "ignorance offensive." I find your petty holier-than-thou schoolmarm morality offensive.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Man, I'm so sick of all the moral crusaders in this thread. They really need to loosen up and have a drink or two, like Peter.

 

[USMC]

Hold on. They've said she's gay?

Well, not yet anyway.

Anyhow, I'm sure it's just some cliched scenario as everyone else seems to think, and Peter didn't do anything. But yeah... cliched, boring, and lazy.

I would much rather he boinked her. At least then it would be real drama in this book.

 

[farmernudie]

The best we can hope for is a drunken cliched non-boinking.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

I don't know, but Pete's moral compass IS getting skewed...
stalking little kids at a park, like he was a GI Joe on a PSA mission or a pedophile... Getting into this "Classic" sitcom scenario... I just can't wait for Ben Reilly's or Kaine's return so they can use the "twin" scenarios. Also they'v exploited a lot of the "classic" sitcom scenarios. I can't wait for the "Pete in drag" scenario...
I just hope that they don't start making Saved by the Bell episodes and call them Ultimate Spider-man issues...

For a guy who beats himself up with the "Uncle Ben died because of my selfish actions, yadda, yadda, great power/great responsibility, blah blah, blah!" getting hammered to the point of not remembering what happened should raise a red flag on some people...

Then again, this is Joe Quesada's Spidey... The one who unmasked in front of a live television audience... When most of his life he's been yammering on how he should NOT unmask because of putting the lives of his loved ones at risk. (Gwen, Goblin, MJ, Symbiote, etc.) The one who makes deals with the devil in order to get a do-over. (And he's revealing his secret to everyone all over again...) Joe, just hurry up and put the ir- preffix in his responsibility mantra already!!

 

[Themanofbat]

I sit back with a drink as I continue to be amused... t: t: t:

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I sit back with a drink as I continue to be amused... t: t: t:

Now, TMOB, don't go out having sex with strangers tonight, y'hear? That would be the fourth time this month!

 

[iloveclones]

5th. He doesn't want to own up to me.....

 

[stillanerd]

Well folks, there's already a review of this issue out on comics bulletin, along with three more preview pages, so there are some minor spoilers involved.

Amazing Spider-Man #601 review

So basically

Spoiler

Yes, it is indeed Michelle Gonzales (a.k.a. Vin with Boobs) that Peter may or may not have had a drunken one-night stand with.

And once again, it looks like where back to the old "Peter's got to look for a new place to live" for obvious reasons. Which again reasserts my notion the Michelle was more of a plot device than a character. :roll:

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Hooray for single Peter!! Getting drunk, getting laid... things he couldn't do while married... Cause everyone knows that married guys don't get drunk or have sex...

"Swiss cheese memory" "Spiderfail.org" attacking the fans again?

 

[Venom 1988]

I still can't stand the art >_<

At least Michelle look like a cute girl in 600, here shes like a skank from Van Buren (only people from AZ would get that )

 

[SpideyInATree]

Is our discontent really all the offensive? You really seem to take a personal interest in the fact we thought it wasn't in character. Are you ok? Are you really that bored? I can understand disagreeing with us, but to take the time to be sarcastic or use hyperbole about it is weird.

No, it's actually not offensive. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. And, yes, I am bored. If I wasn't bored at work I wouldn't be posting on the Hype, now would I?

And, yes, I'm perfectly fine. Minus Sins Past, The Other, and One More Day I have been enjoying the Spider-Man books for the past seven years and having a great time.

I'm sorry that one storyline has skewed your enjoyment of a character. And I'm so SORRY that my sarcasm has skewed your condescending attitude. I mean weren't you the poster, in another thread, that came out and said "**** you, Dan Slott"? But that was because you were angry at Joe Quesada, of course, right? I mean one of the Spider-Man writers and Marvel employees takes his time to not only POST here but debate with the fans who are not enjoying the book he is working on is a FREAKIN' miracle. Yet because you don't like what he has to say you have to say "**** you" to him. Nice. Way to go, DACMAN.

And if anyone wants to call it ass kissing, go ahead. As a fan of Spider-Man and, also, of Dan Slott I'd really like him to keep posting on these boards in the future.