American Bar Association says Bush is violating the Constitution

[War Lord]

That really pisses me off. Clinton gets a BJ and the Republicans goes ape***** and spend millions to get him but Bush wipes his ass with the Constitution and most Republicans couldn't care less.

Nothing illegal about spending money, but lying under oath is illegal.

 

[sinewave]

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forever

Seam: The Pace Is Glacial

 

[C.F. Kane]

Nothing illegal about spending money, but lying under oath is illegal.

The comparison was between Bush and Clinton, not Clinton and the 1998 congress.

The President should have line veto, it's the only way those earmarks can be controlled without getting rid of vital spending, becasue congress doesn't have much of an appetite for controlling unnecessary spending.

Yes, congressional spending is pretty pork-stuffed. But I think that needs to change via internal congressional reform, not executive side-lining.

 

[sinewave]

Yes, congressional spending is pretty pork-stuffed. But I think that needs to change via internal congressional reform, not executive side-lining.

what don't you get about him being THE DECIDER?!?

 

[maxwell's demon]

what don't you get about him being THE DECIDER?!?

George Bush: The machine that always halts

 

[JLBats]

Be a-scared. Be very a-scared.

 

[War Lord]

Yes, congressional spending is pretty pork-stuffed. But I think that needs to change via internal congressional reform, not executive side-lining.

Expecting congress to limit its own spending is like asking a drug addict to control his addiction.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

This is already common sence,even people from other countries like myself.See that Bush is abusing,or misusing his power.

 

[War Lord]

This is already common sence,even people from other countries like myself.See that Bush is abusing,or misusing his power.

It's unlikely that people in most other countries really understand how the executive, legislative, and judicial powers are divided in America.

 

[sinewave]

It's unlikely that people in most other countries really understand how the executive, legislative, and judicial powers are divided in America.

case in point.

 

[War Lord]

case in point.

I'm not saying I understand every aspect of the American constitution, but I understand enough that it's highly unlikely that Bush is abusing his position.

 

[sinewave]

I'm not saying I understand every aspect of the American constitution, but I understand enough that it's highly unlikely that Bush is abusing his position.

But you're extremely biased towards him and his party, so of course you don't see that. It doesn't mean it's not happening, though.

 

[War Lord]

But you're extremely biased towards him and his party, so of course you don't see that. It doesn't mean it's not happening, though.

It doesn't mean it is.

Seriously, if Bush was doing something that was violating the constitution, he'd be checked by congress or court.

The biggest indicator that what Bush is doing is not really that big of a deal is that the Demoncrats aren't complaining. They complain everytime that Bush even sneezes or blinks, yet they're being fairly quiet on this point, which should tell you something.

 

[sinewave]

It doesn't mean it is.

Seriously, if Bush was doing something that was violating the constitution, he'd be checked by congress or court.

The biggest indicator that what Bush is doing is not really that big of a deal is that the Demoncrats aren't complaining. They complain everytime that Bush even sneezes or blinks, yet they're being fairly quiet on this point, which should tell you something.

well, congress and the supreme court are both conservative-controlled, so there's your answer to that one.

as for you statment on the dems, they are complaining, quite a bit and rightly so. heck, even moderate republicans are fighting within their own party about this.

 

[Armand Z Trip]

we need to shelter our children. afterall, it takes a villiage to raise a child.

Actually Hillary was misquoted, what she said was, it takes The Village People to raise a child. Which is true, you never know whern you're going to need a cop, a soldier, a construction worker, or a big gay cowboy.

 

[jaguarr]

Actually Hillary was misquoted, what she said was, it takes The Village People to raise a child. Which is true, you never know whern you're going to need a cop, a soldier, a construction worker, or a big gay cowboy.

You forgot the Indian.

jag

 

[maxwell's demon]

You forgot the Indian.

jag

 

[War Lord]

well, congress and the supreme court are both conservative-controlled, so there's your answer to that one.

as for you statment on the dems, they are complaining, quite a bit and rightly so. heck, even moderate republicans are fighting within their own party about this.

I haven't heard anything in the news about anybody complaining.

The Supreme court is not conservative controlled yet, though hopefully during the next term it can be.

As far as I know, it's currently 3-Liberals, 3- Conservatives, with one swing vote who usually swings Liberal, not that there's anything wrong with that.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008573

 

[Calvin]

case in point.

Post of the day.

 

[sinewave]

I haven't heard anything in the news about anybody complaining.

The Supreme court is not conservative controlled yet, though hopefully during the next term it can be.

As far as I know, it's currently 3-Liberals, 3- Conservatives, with one swing vote who usually swings Liberal, not that there's anything wrong with that.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008573

so, because you haven't heard the compalints they don't exist? there's plenty. just lookt the thoe ones already listed in this thread.

that swing vote was o'connor, but now it's alito. we replaced a moderate and a conservative with two conservatives. that makes it more conservative.

 

[sinewave]

Post of the day.

really? there's so many people i'd like to thank....

 

[War Lord]

so, because you haven't heard the compalints they don't exist? there's plenty. just lookt the thoe ones already listed in this thread.

that swing vote was o'connor, but now it's alito. we replaced a moderate and a conservative with two conservatives. that makes it more conservative.

No, Alito is not the swing vote, Kennedy is.

All Alito has done is made it more centred, since there are still three Liberally idealogues on the court.

 

[sinewave]

No, Alito is not the swing vote, Kennedy is.

All Alito has done is made it more centred, since there are still three Liberally idealogues on the court.

the way I see it, there's more conservatives on the bench than liberals.

 

[War Lord]

the way I see it, there's more conservatives on the bench than liberals.

The way I see it is that it's split with one of the Justices slightly swinging left.

 

[C.F. Kane]

Expecting congress to limit its own spending is like asking a drug addict to control his addiction.

So, you're in favor of a parliament?