And you thought the crap marvel have been spouting so far was bad

[Doc Destruction]

Funny, I'm 37, live in my own house, have a great job and I have an impossible workload that I'm required to get done EVERY FREAKING DAY.

Hitch can cry me a river. Do your stupid job, you hack...and quit crying to us how tough it is.

 

[Doc Destruction]

when it says monthly from Marvel

ROFL!

 

[roach]

I find it funny that while they do admit the books is gonna be late...they all find the time to be on the internet giving excuses

 

[roach]

ROFL!

im mean it's right there on the posters and cards

 

[roach]

and while it is a month for CW....it is also impacting all the other books...they too will be delayed until CW 4 comes out...not to mention the new series supposed to be launched

 

[hippy fascist]

It's just one month late. He has a point. Surely you all have lives and can wait an extra month? Where in the bible, the constitution or the geneva convention (which i keep calling the genosha convention... in public) does it say it has to come out every month?? Movies are delayed; books are delayed; house payments are delayed; freaking international peace treaty summits are delayed and people don't kick up this much fuss! It sucks, i know, and Hitch seems to be acting like an *******, but he was clearly replying to arrogant, i-still-live-with-my-mum fans who have no idea what it's like to have an impossible workload with impossible deadlines to meet and high standards or personal integrity to keep.

How many times have we gone over the top and started shouting at each other. He's just human and has just been pissed off. I'd say drop it and close this thread now but i'm gonna get flamed. It's not his book, your beef shouldn't be with him.

How many ****ing times! This is not about civil war, It's about hitch's attitude, end of story!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

and while it is a month for CW....it is also impacting all the other books...they too will be delayed until CW 4 comes out...not to mention the new series supposed to be launched

Slott's new '07 series went from a January to a March debut date already.

 

[Xofenroht]

Oh seriously guys...CHILL OUT! It's not like his last name is Kubert or Romita. He's not that great of an artist to begin with nor does he really have the respect of the fans as some comicbook great. I could see if this was some writer/illustrator who's made awesome contributions to the industry, but it isn't. It's JUST Bryan Hitch!
Who cares what he has to say? He wishes people would care about his late work. Nothing he says about comicbook fans as a whole will even phase the public opinion of the comicbook community. It would take someone they know, like Stan Lee, Gaiman, Moore, or Miller to really make an impact like that.
Maybe if Alex Maleev or Greg Land said something I MIGHT give to spits of scat...

 

[MyPokerShirt]

when it says monthly from Marvel

yeah... and marvel changed it so it'll be out NEXT month. quite honestly what do you want from them? You're all pissed it's delayed: me too. But what do you want?? The people involved apologised. They gave a reason which - even if you don't like it - is the reason for the delay!! I don't get the *****ing and whining about something that cannot be helped. It happens all the freakin time. I understand moaning about crap like the Other, but c'mon.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh seriously guys...CHILL OUT! It's not like his last name is Kubert or Romita. He's not that great of an artist to begin with nor does he really have the respect of the fans as some comicbook great. I could see if this was some writer/illustrator who's made awesome contributions to the industry, but it isn't. It's JUST Bryan Hitch!
Who cares what he has to say? He wishes people would care about his late work. Nothing he says about comicbook fans as a whole will even phase the public opinion of the comicbook community. It would take someone they know, like Stan Lee, Gaiman, Moore, or Miller to really make an impact like that.
Maybe if Alex Maleev or Greg Land said something I MIGHT give to spits of scat...

Many would argue that The Ultimates and The Authority are great contributions to the comic industry.

 

[Xofenroht]

Many would argue that The Ultimates and The Authority are great contributions to the comic industry.

Goddammit...

...he does do The Ultimates doesn't he? And I really was thinking about picking up The Authority. Well, screw everything I just said.

Flip him the bird and move on. No need to be upset.

Edit: And don't forget to give him his busta' card either.

 

[Doc Destruction]

yeah... and marvel changed it so it'll be out NEXT month. quite honestly what do you want from them? You're all pissed it's delayed: me too. But what do you want?? The people involved apologised. They gave a reason which - even if you don't like it - is the reason for the delay!! I don't get the *****ing and whining about something that cannot be helped. It happens all the freakin time. I understand moaning about crap like the Other, but c'mon.

You DO know that "it happens all the time" IS THE PROBLEM, RIGHT?

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Funny, I'm 37, live in my own house, have a great job and I have an impossible workload that I'm required to get done EVERY FREAKING DAY.

Hitch can cry me a river. Do your stupid job, you hack...and quit crying to us how tough it is.

well done, you compared a workload that you indicated can be finished in a day to an artistic workload that is monthly and incomparable to anything that isn't art. well done, how relevant

Hitch sounds like he's pissed off at those "same 6-8 guys" (Dan Slott and Bendis interview) who DON'T have lives and NEED to lose their virginity. The same guys that hound creators like Hitch because they're jealous of his talent and ability to break into the comics business through... guess what? years of HARD WORK. The same guys that are pleased they got this reaction so now they can get people like you on their sides. People like you with lives but very short tempers.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Artists can break down how many pages they can do in a day. Don't be dumb on purpose. If I can schedule my time to make things happen, so can they. If the artists can't handle the schedules, get different artists. If the artist isn't the problem, sack the person who didn't make enough lead time.

This isn't rocket science.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Work is work. Obviously getting a comic done in a month can be done, since many artists do it.

Edit: Which DD just said himself above me.

 

[roach]

yeah... and marvel changed it so it'll be out NEXT month. quite honestly what do you want from them? You're all pissed it's delayed: me too. But what do you want?? The people involved apologised. They gave a reason which - even if you don't like it - is the reason for the delay!! I don't get the *****ing and whining about something that cannot be helped. It happens all the freakin time. I understand moaning about crap like the Other, but c'mon.

So basicly they "apologized" and since they said they were sorry we have to accept it.
Again only in comics....

 

[MyPokerShirt]

You DO know that "it happens all the time" IS THE PROBLEM, RIGHT?

Then why the surpised reactions and anger when it happens. I think with lazy but brilliant artists/writers and artists/writers whose work is of such a high standard that theyre delayed no matter how hard they work that this sort of thing is inevitable. we should open up a vote thread:

preference:
civil war on time but with second artist, possibly compromising the standard of art?
or
civil war delayed just one month and standard kept up?




You're argument doesnt stand up! You say there are delays all the time and then you say lots of artists get their art done on time!! There is such a thing as context! You cannot say one work where somebody's simplistic style is in on time month in month out is comparable to CW art, with all those heroes on the page and the high standard that's been set.
There ARE delays all the time and there IS art released on time all the time, but every project is different and i think you should cut these guys some slack, is all. Oh and Hippy fascist don't tell me it's not about the delays when you know that's what everybody else really wants to talk about and is the root of this argument.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I would easily take the first option.

Nothing wrong with a good guest artist. I remember when they even hyped it that way.

 

[roach]

Hitch sounds like he's pissed off at those "same 6-8 guys" (Dan Slott and Bendis interview) who DON'T have lives and NEED to lose their virginity. The same guys that hound creators like Hitch because they're jealous of his talent and ability to break into the comics business through... guess what? years of HARD WORK. The same guys that are pleased they got this reaction so now they can get people like you on their sides. People like you with lives but very short tempers.

What if the SHH boards went down right now. A day goes by maybe two and a message comes across the main page saying that this happens all the time and look it happened to CS and stop whining because he's doing the best job and you all are jealous of him......would you not have the right to whine

 

[roach]

Then why the surpised reactions and anger when it happens.

because while it does happen all the time...IT SHOULDNT HAPPEN AT ALL

 

[Xofenroht]

I really only think it's a problem because it's effecting other titles.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Then why the surpised reactions and anger when it happens. I think with lazy but brilliant artists/writers and artists/writers whose work is of such a high standard that theyre delayed no matter how hard they work that this sort of thing is inevitable. we should open up a vote thread:

preference:
civil war on time but with second artist, possibly compromising the standard of art?
or
civil war delayed just one month and standard kept up?

The second question isn't technically correct, Civil War #4 is delayed one month, Civil War #5 won't come out until two months later, making it three months late. If you think the same delays won't happen with 6 and 7 you're a fool. Also these delays are now impacting other books like ASM and FF and delaying books from being launching. Having said that I'll take option one or option three, just the artist the lead time he needs before soliciting the series or set up fill-in artists that can compliment the artist's style. Add a fill-in story on the regular series before your civil war tie-ins start too.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

I would easily take the first option.

Nothing wrong with a good guest artist. I remember when they even hyped it that way.

and that's your preference, that's fair enough. I think now's a good time to say wasn't it millar and mcnivens decision not to have a guest artist and have it one month late instead? they obviously thought more people would chose the second option. meh.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's Marvel's decision, actually. They believe it'll sell better with the promised creators, even if it's late, rather than fill-ins, especially in the trade market, which is coming to dominate sales concerns in comic publishing.

So basicly they "apologized" and since they said they were sorry we have to accept it.
Again only in comics....

 

[roach]

I really only think it's a problem because it's effecting other titles.

exactly