Are you capable of murder?

[mrvlknight21]

Understandable, but we're talking about would you commit a particular act. You don't have the luxury of being able to determine whether or not a court of law will convict you of murder, voluntary manslaughter, or declare a mistrail.

It's irrelavent in this argument.

I guess what I am saying is, that people are answering the original poster by saying things like "I would do it, in order to save my family from harm." Well, that isnt actually murder.
That's all.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I guess what I am saying is, that people are answering the original poster by saying things like "I would do it, in order to save my family from harm." Well, that isnt actually murder.
That's all.

I see what you're saying but I don't think that anyone can really determine if it would be considered murder at a later date.

I guess a better question would be: "Would you commit murder in a way that would not be considered justifiable by a court of law."

In which case my answer remains. Yes I would.

 

[mrvlknight21]

I see what you're saying but I don't think that anyone can really determine if it would be considered murder at a later date.

I guess a better question would be: "Would you commit murder in a way that would not be considered justifiable by a court of law."

In which case my answer remains. Yes I would.

Well you are allowed to use deadly force if someone poses a reasonable threat that could cause serious bodily injury/death to you or another person.
The deadly force triangle is ability, opportunity and jeopardy. If these 3 things are present, then deadly force is allowed.

But, I am going overboard with the definitions.

I agree with you, that the better question would be what you stated. I think that is what the OP intended.

Sorry to steer this boat off course.

 

[Manic]

Judging by the other questions asked in this thread, a better question would be "would you kill another person?" Because you don't ask me if I would kill in defense of someone, and then label it murder. There's a difference.

 

[Shemtov]

1.) Under what conditions would you, if any, be able to take someone's life?

(To clarify: I do not mean to say put someone out of their misery. I mean like clearly think, plan and kill out of hate, anger, etc..)

2.) Do you believe there is any cosmic, moral, greater significance in doing so? Do you value human life?

3.) If you could take another life, but you view it as immoral or evil, how would you redeem yourself?

4.) Even with just cause, how many lives would it take to make someone a "murderer"? In other words, how much is too much, before you are irredeemable and just a killer?


5.) In many ways, humanity is like a plague or virus, even to themselves. War, greed, all the sins and violence of man serves no purpose but to cause suffering. Whether by planetary suffering(pollution), physical suffering(torture, rape, murder), emotional (abuse; to others or even to ourselves); it seems that life might be better off without humans. Would you agree or disagree?

1. In self Defense, I would do it with out hesitation.
Also, when I first diagnosed with diabetes, I releized that If my sugar got to high I got into a rage. Afterword, I became afraid that I would kill somebody in such a rage. this inspired me to control my sugar. In retrospect, though, I think I would have stopped short, even in such a rage. It's just not in me.

2. Its morally wrong, exept in self defence or a legally sanctioned punishment.

3. If it wasn't in self defense- I would commit suicide. I couldn't live myself. If I became a mental case, after I was cured I would turn myself in.

4. One Sane killing, Execpt in self defence or a legally sanctioned punishment makes someone an Irredemable Killer. You cannot restore life, like you could restore Stolen goods, give money for medicine in cases of assault, etc.

 

[redmarvel]

1.) Under what conditions would you, if any, be able to take someone's life?

(To clarify: I do not mean to say put someone out of their misery. I mean like clearly think, plan and kill out of hate, anger, etc..)

Not planned, premeditated, when my life and the lives of those I love are not at stake, no. On the other hand, if the life of someone I love is at stake, possibly

2.) Do you believe there is any cosmic, moral, greater significance in doing so? Do you value human life?

Yes and yes. If we do not respect life, than what do we respect?

3.) If you could take another life, but you view it as immoral or evil, how would you redeem yourself?

By saving as many other lives as possible

4.) Even with just cause, how many lives would it take to make someone a "murderer"? In other words, how much is too much, before you are irredeemable and just a killer?

1. That's it, one and only one. Once you have committed the act for any reason you are just a killer. After that you must learn to live with the fact that you are a killer and do your best to make your life a payment for what you have done.

5.) In many ways, humanity is like a plague or virus, even to themselves. War, greed, all the sins and violence of man serves no purpose but to cause suffering. Whether by planetary suffering(pollution), physical suffering(torture, rape, murder), emotional (abuse; to others or even to ourselves); it seems that life might be better off without humans. Would you agree or disagree?

The world would probably be a better place if we could learn to be more respectful of it. However a planet without intelligence is without history or importance

As always I believe we should Make love, not war

 

[Majic Walrus]

Well you are allowed to use deadly force if someone poses a reasonable threat that could cause serious bodily injury/death to you or another person.
The deadly force triangle is ability, opportunity and jeopardy. If these 3 things are present, then deadly force is allowed.

But, I am going overboard with the definitions.

I agree with you, that the better question would be what you stated. I think that is what the OP intended.

Sorry to steer this boat off course.

It's okay. I think we know what we're talking about.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Depends on the situation definitely.

I would never set out to kill someone I don't think. Or kill someone for the fun of it or pathetic reasons like they looked at me funny.

But if someone put my families life at risk and I had no other choice, I would have to.

Or if someone threatened my life and it's either me or them, then I wouldn't hesitate for a second.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Depends on the situation definitely.

I would never set out to kill someone I don't think. Or kill someone for the fun of it or pathetic reasons like they looked at me funny.

But if someone put my families life at risk and I had no other choice, I would have to.

Or if someone threatened my life and it's either me or them, then I wouldn't hesitate for a second.

$13,000,000 cold hard untraceable cash to kill someone you've never met and who doesn't know you.

 

[Manic]

$13,000,000 cold hard untraceable cash to kill someone you've never met and who doesn't know you.

Make the murder untraceable 100 Bullets style, and you've got a deal. I'll just spend the rest of my life hoping the Jews were right, and there is no Hell.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

HAHA if it was 100 Bullet style and someone gave me a attache with 100 untraceable bullets to kill someone who destroyed my life? Hmmmm maybe. But I'd want some cash for it too!

 

[katie_girl09]

(1) I generally don't believe in murder (like most people). But in this case, I would have to say that I would consider it if I could see into the future and undeniably determine that someone would become a serial killer, rapist, or pedophile.
(2) I certainly believe that there is intrinsic value in all human life.
(3) I would redeem myself by pointing out to myself that I have probably saved the lives of many by killing one person. Still, I don't think I'll ever fully justify it to myself. It would probably haunt me for the rest of my life.
(4) I can't really answer that too well. I don't necessarily think that it lies in numbers, but in the person's motives.
(5) I guess life is better off without us. But we're here now so whaddya gonna do, right?

 

[Majic Walrus]

Make the murder untraceable 100 Bullets style, and you've got a deal. I'll just spend the rest of my life hoping the Jews were right, and there is no Hell.

C'mon the benefit of having 13,000,000 dollars greatly outweighs the possibilities of going to jail for the rest of your life.

Either way you're set.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

If someone was willing to take my life, then I'll defend my self. If it ended with me killing them, then so be it. It's the persons own fault for trying to take my life.

 

[Bnightwing]

To protect the family, or myself I could to just kill someone on the spot or even take my own life I couldn't

 

[Manic]

C'mon the benefit of having 13,000,000 dollars greatly outweighs the possibilities of going to jail for the rest of your life.

Either way you're set.

Not if my accounts get frozen. Then I'm screwed AND imprisoned.

 

[Alexia Dark]

I am. At what point, I'm not sure and probably wouldn't know until it happened.

 

[Carcharodon]

In that regard there would be things worse then death....

There are.

 

[Carcharodon]

No, I could never ever intentionally end someones life. I'm an Atheist, so that would be taking everything from them, in my mind.

Exactly. That's why the phrase, "Save a life, save the world," holds so much meaning.

 

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

I think anyone is capable if pushed to their limit.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Not if my accounts get frozen. Then I'm screwed AND imprisoned.

There's a difference between screwed and imprisoned?

 

[Manic]

You can go to prison without being screwed, and if I was stuck on the inside, I'd need that money to buy protection and keep certain people off my back.

 

[Majic Walrus]

You can go to prison without being screwed, and if I was stuck on the inside, I'd need that money to buy protection and keep certain people off my back.

No amount of money in the world can protect you from prison buttsecks. I saw so on Oz.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ain't cigarettes and tobacco the currency behind the door anyway?

 

[Manic]

It can if you find people who can protect you, then shower them in free cigarettes and coffee. My brother's in prison, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't need as much crap as he asks us all to send him every other month.