The Amazing Spider-Man Are You Happy About The Reboot?

[Project862006]

Well, again, they never said dark. And second, they did take themselves seriously...sometimes. The rest of the time it was as cheesy as the day is long.

the comics and tv shows get cheesy at times too especially the tv shows it was'nt like Raimi pulled a B&R

 

[DACMAN]

That's also what people said about Batman and Robin. Batman was cheesy at one point, that doesn't mean people want to see a movie filled with it. And there's a reason the tv show didn't do well at the time, and IMO the old cartoon in the 60's sucked.

All comics get cheesy at times. There is a reason they moved away from that stuff. There is a reason the comics aren't cheesy now. There is a reason the cartoon isn't cheesy now. There is a reason people want things to take themselves seriously now.

I liked the Raimi movies. I didn't care for the cheese but I liked the movies. But I'm telling you the way things are going the Raimi films will be remembered like the first 4 batfilms. And the new Spider-Man movies will be remembered like the Nolan movies. At least, that's what it sounds like their going for. If they are calling less cheese "gritty" I say that's fine by me.

 

[DACMAN]

Again, I honestly can't understand why anyone would have this opinion. Spider-man is one of my favorite characters. I've loved him since I was four years old. Never would I ever hope for a movie based on my favorite character to bomb.

And I honestly can't understand why someone who calls themselves a fan would wish it either. It's beyond me.

It's freaken weird isn't it! That's like going to a restaurant you're not a big fan of and ordering your favorite food. Then hoping the meal sucks because you hate the restaurant.

And what really bugs me is these guys don't see how crazy this makes them seem.

 

[MrSpyder]

This is funny. Personnally I will have to wait and see. The first three films will always be remembered

 

[ultimatefan]

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lol touche' good sir touche'. I can't really counter that.

I too dislike band wagon jumpers.

But like I said, I'm just going to remain open minded.

If the new films turn out crap? Oh well, I've still got Spider-Man 1 and 2 to fall back on.

If they turn out brilliant? Great! But that doesn't mean I will forget the great films that SM1 and 2 certainly were, well IMO they were.

I´ll be open-minded as well.

 

[Chris Wallace]

What will happen, I wonder, if the pro-reboot fans don't get the Spidey movie of their dreams this go-around? What will they say then?

 

[El Payaso]

What will happen, I wonder, if the pro-reboot fans don't get the Spidey movie of their dreams this go-around? What will they say then?

Personally: "I will always have Spiderman 2."

 

[Chris Wallace]

What about the ones who bashed that one?

 

[The Bat-Man]

I'm happy about the reboot for a multitude of reasons. None of which have anything to do with Sam Raimi and his Spider-Man films because, truth be told, I love those films. Yeah, Spider-Man 3 was a major disappointment, but the first two films were very well done, especially the second film, and all in all, I'd be lying to you if I said that I can't enjoy Spider-Man 3 at all every once in awhile. That being said, I have actually been hoping for a reboot for a couple of years now simply because I didn't feel that Sony and Raimi got it right. I want to clarify again, I love Raimi's Spider-Man films, but I've always felt that they could have done much better and now they have the chance to attempt that. I'm a big fan of the comics, the early ones, and I feel that there is much more to be explored with Peter Parker in high school than we got to see in the previous films. I feel that the previous films moved things ahead way too quick. I think there could have been some much better stories told and they missed out on a lot of good stuff such as Gwen Stacy, Flash Thompson and Peter's early struggles as Spider-Man.

Also, I feel that if Sony had gone ahead with Spider-Man 4 with a new cast and a new director, that they would be burdened and held down by what had happened in previous installments. By wiping the slate clean and starting at the beginning, this new director and cast can create their own vision of Spider-Man instead of just trying to continue what others had done before them. I'm very excited to see what the filmmakers come up with.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What about the ones who bashed that one?

Well tough **** for them!

I'm pretty confident the characterization will be better. Because Webb clearly has a better grasp of younger characters than Raimi.

My only doubts are about the action scenes and that.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Pay attention to what I'm saying here; I'm not saying that the new movies will necessarily be bad, or even speculating in that direction. I retract what I said before, that part of me was hoping the movie would suck. Much as that would vindicate my general position on reboots, I don't want that stain on the history of the character-especially when there are so many already. I'm saying, what if the new film doesn't turn out ot be the answer to fanboys' wet dreams that so many are hoping for? What if some characterizations are better but some turn out to be not as good as Raimi got it? What if the action aspect comes up short? What if the costumes don't look as good, the pacing is bad, or the movie just turns out to not be as much fun? Should this happen, will fanboys & filmmakers alike EVER admit that reboots aren't automatically the way to go? Many of you are psyched about the idea-the idea of Spider-Man getting rebooted and in reality you have ABSOLUTELY NO BLOODY CLUE what the final product is going to be. It's like you're getting ready to go on a blind date with someone you know absolutely nothing about & you're already thinking that she could be "the one".

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I hope that isn't aimed at me Chris.

I'm not supremely confident the reboot will be great. But I know there is a possibility it will. Whereas SM4 had fail written all over it. I like those odds.

 

[S_H_F_4839]

Pay attention to what I'm saying here; I'm not saying that the new movies will necessarily be bad, or even speculating in that direction. I retract what I said before, that part of me was hoping the movie would suck. Much as that would vindicate my general position on reboots, I don't want that stain on the history of the character-especially when there are so many already. I'm saying, what if the new film doesn't turn out ot be the answer to fanboys' wet dreams that so many are hoping for? What if some characterizations are better but some turn out to be not as good as Raimi got it? What if the action aspect comes up short? What if the costumes don't look as good, the pacing is bad, or the movie just turns out to not be as much fun? Should this happen, will fanboys & filmmakers alike EVER admit that reboots aren't automatically the way to go? Many of you are psyched about the idea-the idea of Spider-Man getting rebooted and in reality you have ABSOLUTELY NO BLOODY CLUE what the final product is going to be. It's like you're getting ready to go on a blind date with someone you know absolutely nothing about & you're already thinking that she could be "the one".

It worked out pretty well for peter when he met mary jane for the first time in the comics. JK I get what your saying and I agree with your point but if we dont have a little bit of faith then we might as well give up on following films on our favorite characters all together.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I hope that isn't aimed at me Chris.

The first sentence was, a little bit.
I think that many fans here ARE supremely confident that the reboot will be great, & I think that at best they should be cautiously optimistic. Which was my mentality when Nolan first went to work on Batman. Not only because we hadn't seen anything good from Batman-or DC for that matter-in years, but because "different" doesn't automatically mean "better". Just because I liked "Memento" didn't mean I was going to love what he did with Batman. Now truth be told, I did immensely enjoy his two Bat-outings. But there were lots of things I feel could have been done better. Some of those things I felt were done better in Burton's first outing. And this was a case where 8 years had passed after the previous series had been taken so far down the wrong path that in all probability there WAS no way back. Sam Raimi had delivered 2 highly entertaining Spider-Man films without anyone breathing down his neck, and would probably have given us a superior third had the studio left him the hell alone. If they kept their hands out of the pot, he may very well have delivered a superb 4th one. But for reasons which elude me, they were unwilling to do that. Which brings me to the question, what makes fans think the new guy will have the autonomy that Raimi was denied?
I think administrators (studio heads, publiching bigwigs, etc.) need to know when to leave creators alone & let them do what they came to do. I remember reading in Moonwalk about how the record company started pressuring Michael about deadlines when "Thriller" was in the works, and he ultimately had to tell them that they would get the tracks on his terms, not theirs. That album went on to set the world on fire. Maybe filmmakers don't say "Screw you" to execs often enough. Which is unfortunate, since the filmmakers-NOT the execs-will be the ones to shoulder the blame if moviegoers are dissatisfied with the final product.

 

[Eggyman]

Pay attention to what I'm saying here; I'm not saying that the new movies will necessarily be bad, or even speculating in that direction. I retract what I said before, that part of me was hoping the movie would suck. Much as that would vindicate my general position on reboots, I don't want that stain on the history of the character-especially when there are so many already. I'm saying, what if the new film doesn't turn out ot be the answer to fanboys' wet dreams that so many are hoping for? What if some characterizations are better but some turn out to be not as good as Raimi got it? What if the action aspect comes up short? What if the costumes don't look as good, the pacing is bad, or the movie just turns out to not be as much fun? Should this happen, will fanboys & filmmakers alike EVER admit that reboots aren't automatically the way to go? Many of you are psyched about the idea-the idea of Spider-Man getting rebooted and in reality you have ABSOLUTELY NO BLOODY CLUE what the final product is going to be. It's like you're getting ready to go on a blind date with someone you know absolutely nothing about & you're already thinking that she could be "the one".

What if? We'll get a poor-to-average film, people will be pissed off... life will go on. I'm excited for my holiday this summer - maybe it won't happen... maybe I'll die before I get to go, maybe Egypt will be flooded, maybe the world will end. I'm still gonna look forward to it though - it's called having a 'positive outlook'.

 

[Chris Wallace]

It worked out pretty well for peter when he met mary jane for the first time in the comics. JK I get what your saying and I agree with your point but if we dont have a little bit of faith then we might as well give up on following films on our favorite characters all together.

Realistically, you're right. But blind faith is just as bad as blind cynicism. I am unhappy with the reboot in principle more than anything else, because it was just as I feared. Studio jumps on the bandwagon as soon as everyone's contracts are up, rather than giving the franchise a chance to either flourish or redeem itself. We're going to see more of this, happening too frequently & too fast. And not all of them are going to be good moves. Hell, aren't we STILL waiting for a successful Punisher?

 

[SuperFerret]

All comics get cheesy at times. There is a reason they moved away from that stuff. There is a reason the comics aren't cheesy now. There is a reason the cartoon isn't cheesy now. There is a reason people want things to take themselves seriously now.

That reason being that the majority of the fanbase is older now, and is doubly insecure about the stigma of liking superhero comics (which will for better or worse, always be kid's stuff at its core) so they want stuff as gritty, and violent, and as ridiculously "adult" and "mature" as possible, which creates such a wonderful irony in the end.

 

[spider-neil]

even if the new movie turns out rubbish I'll always have 1 and 2 (and to a lesser extent 3)

 

[El Payaso]

What about the ones who bashed that one?

They deserve the punsihment then.

 

[spider-neil]

Now truth be told, I did immensely enjoy his two Bat-outings. But there were lots of things I feel could have been done better. Some of those things I felt were done better in Burton's first outing.

out of curiosity, like what? I can't think of a single thing burton's movies does better than nolan's movie (but than I hated burtons version)

 

[Chris Wallace]

out of curiosity, like what? I can't think of a single thing burton's movies does better than nolan's movie (but than I hated burtons version)

For one, Keaton gave a better performance than Bale. At least as Batman. Bale's hyper-exaggerated voice gets annoying after a while for me. Plus, in Burton's film we saw a Batman who figured things out for himself rather than one who had to have everything explained to him. He didn't need Fox holding his hand every step of the way like the new Bruce does. Gotham felt more like Gotham & less like my old neighborhood. Characterizations & origins were closer to the comics, Vicki Vale wasn't nearly as annoying as Rachel, & overall, I just felt that Burton delived a movie that had more of a comic book/superhero feel, whereas Nolan's (TDK moreso) felt like a crime drama with costumes.

That reason being that the majority of the fanbase is older now, and is doubly insecure about the stigma of liking superhero comics (which will for better or worse, always be kid's stuff at its core) so they want stuff as gritty, and violent, and as ridiculously "adult" and "mature" as possible, which creates such a wonderful irony in the end.

I think we learned a valuable lesson back in 2003 about "mature" NOT meaning "better".

 

[topdog1]

$80 million budget + Ultimate Line = SUCKATUDE of huge proportions

Sorry to say but I think this is one Marvel fanatic who is out. Even at this early stage, Sony seems to have blown it. Maintaining the rights from Disney/Marvel seems more important than making a good film. I'm glad this is going to hit during the Avengers year. I can focus on that and ignore this reboot.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I'm extremely frustrated with both Marvel & Sony . This Reboot is unnecessary and a waste of time .

 

[Chris Wallace]

I do think it's unnecessary & I think it's too soon. I think it also sets a bad precedent for the genre. But I'm still trying to keep an open mind.

 

[GhostPoet]

Dawson Creek Spider-Man? NO THANKS.