The Amazing Spider-Man Are You Happy About The Reboot?

[chaseter]

You do realize these two sentiments are practically contradictory by concept, right? Unless you're open to the case of a bad idea turning into a good product. Though by nature that wouldn't be a bad idea in the first place, as a result.


1) Where does it say an origin story is going to be retold?

2) Even if it was, is it not feasible to tell it in a fresher way?

Reboot generally means starting over...and the origin is the beginning point for all superhero movies.

 

[SuperFerret]

Is our collective attention span that damn short that ten years requires a refreshening?

 

[BrollySupersj]

Not happy...not sad...not really anything. I'm just gonna wait and see what they bring us. Could be awesome...could be awful, who knows.

 

[Crook]

Reboot generally means starting over...and the origin is the beginning point for all superhero movies.

You're stating the obvious. "Starting over" is the same process as "let's move on from the previous continuity and make our own". People are just assuming origin story for no reason.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm relatively happy with this, yeah.

 

[chaseter]

You're stating the obvious. "Starting over" is the same process as "let's move on from the previous continuity and make our own". People are just assuming origin story for no reason.

Starting over does not mean continuation...

 

[Crook]

Please tell me how disregarding previous material is a continuation, then. You can start over not in a chronological sense, but from a creative standpoint.

 

[Wylie Times]

Reboot generally means starting over...and the origin is the beginning point for all superhero movies.

To be fair Incredible Hulk was a reboot and I wouldn't say that's an origin movie at all.

 

[SuperFerret]

Then it's a new direction, not a reboot. Rebooting implies starting over, like hitting the reset button on the NES, you've gotta sit through the title screens again.

 

[chaseter]

Please tell me how disregarding previous material is a continuation, then. You can start over not in a chronological sense, but from a creative standpoint.

I didn't say it was a continuation. Disregarding previous material is not a continuation, it is a reboot. If they are going to disregard the previous three films plot and character wise, they are going to tell the story of the character's birth. Uncle Ben will die again...I guarantee it. If they disregard everything and start over, as in a reboot, the origin of Spider-Man will be told again.

If they continue from where Raimi left off, then the studio heads that released the statements need to reword what they said...but I doubt it.

 

[chaseter]

To be fair Incredible Hulk was a reboot and I wouldn't say that's an origin movie at all.

They showed how he became Hulk through gamma radiation different than what happened in the previous movie. It had a different origin in it. It wasn't the basic outline of superhero origin movies, but it retold his story.

 

[Leenie]

It's stupid to do a reboot this soon, in my opinion.

I feel as if Sony's slapped the Raimi-franchise fans in the face, to be honest. Like I said in another post, it's tacky for them to string the fans along for 2 years with this crap just to have the project scrapped.

I'll be seeing this reboot, because, well ... It's Spider-Man. Of course I'll see it, and I hope it's good. But all of you whiny fans out there? You got what you wanted. If the movie sucks, then I'll be laughing when you all start whining about that.

 

[Wylie Times]

Then it's a new direction, not a reboot. Rebooting implies starting over, like hitting the reset button on the NES, you've gotta sit through the title screens again.

No, it was a reboot, just not an origin story.....They shot through the origin (which was different from any other in hulk films) during the opening credits but Incredible Hulk was hardly a film about the origins of the Hulk.

 

[SuperFerret]

No, it was a reboot, just not an origin story.....They shot through the origin (which was different from any other in hulk films) during the opening credits but Incredible Hulk was hardly a film about the origins of the Hulk.

I type slowly and didn't quote Crook. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[Wylie Times]

They showed how he became Hulk through gamma radiation different than what happened in the previous movie. It had a different origin in it. It wasn't the basic outline of superhero origin movies, but it retold his story.

His origin was shown (briefly) but I'd hardly call it an origin movie. that's like saying Spider-Man 2 is an origin movie as it basically shows the first movie in the opening credits.

*edit*

Oh ok, my bad SuperFerret.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I'm happy.... as long as Sony follows what Marvel is doing with the Avengers characters & stays true to the comics with a few changes here & there.

 

[SuperFerret]

No problem. You and your buddies didn't maul me yesterday morning, so we're cool.

 

[MARVELDC]

Rebooting a already rebooted Movie Series.

The first Spidey Movie IS a reboot.

So this will be a RE-REBOOT!!!!!

Makes no sense..........Unless they do it straight from the COMIC!!!!!

 

[Crook]

Then it's a new direction, not a reboot. Rebooting implies starting over, like hitting the reset button on the NES, you've gotta sit through the title screens again.

The only clear difference between the two is that a new direction can essentially start over without necessarily having to start chronologically from the beginning. That is why they're practically the same concepts to me.

I didn't say it was a continuation. Disregarding previous material is not a continuation, it is a reboot. If they are going to disregard the previous three films plot and character wise, they are going to tell the story of the character's birth. Uncle Ben will die again...I guarantee it. If they disregard everything and start over, as in a reboot, the origin of Spider-Man will be told again.

Let's go on a hypothetical for a second. Pretend Nolan's BB was the first Batman film, and Burton's B89 came along later. What would you consider that scenario?

 

[Timstuff]

I think it's dumb that they're doing a hard reboot at this point in time. A soft reboot where they just bringing a new cast and crew and ignore some of the dumber points of Spider-Man 3 would have been much more palatable, but I guess that in the age of the reboot that just isn't fashionable anymore.

BTW, my condolences to anyone who was hoping to see The Lizard in a movie. If they're going to be rebooting this franchise every 10 years, the chances of them ever getting past Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom are pretty slim.

The one thing that would cheer me up is if this movie was going to tie in with the larger Marvel Movie Universe, but the chances of that are probably pretty slim I'm guessing since I doubt that Sony will want to relinquish any creative control to Marvel.

 

[DIRECTOR]

Guys, the movie won't work........... this is what happens when corporations getts between artists and think of about money only.

It's a bunch of old farts in a conference room, who know nothing about Spiderman, making he decision, and you all are falling for it

 

[chaseter]

The only clear difference between the two is that a new direction can essentially start over without necessarily having to start chronologically from the beginning. That is why they're practically the same concepts to me.


Let's go on a hypothetical for a second. Pretend Nolan's BB was the first Batman film, and Burton's B89 came along later. What would you consider that scenario?

They both have different scenarios of how his parents died and Gotham in general. So, I would consider either scenario is reboot because it is. They are retelling the main characer's motivations. They will retell Peter's motivations and we will see Uncle Ben die again and it will be differently because it will be a different cast.

 

[Leenie]

Guys, the movie won't work........... this is what happens when corporations getts between artists and think of about money only.

It's a bunch of old farts in a conference room, who know nothing about Spiderman, making he decision, and you all are falling for it

A+ for you!

At this point in time, I see this whole thing as a temper tantrum in response to Raimi not letting Sony shove stuff down his throat again.

"Well, FINE Raimi. You're fired! We'll hire a director who WILL put our table scraps on screen!"

 

[Crook]

They both have different scenarios of how his parents died and Gotham in general. So, I would consider either scenario is reboot because it is. They are retelling the main characer's motivations. They will retell Peter's motivations and we will see Uncle Ben die again and it will be differently because it will be a different cast.

My point was B89 was most definitely not an origin story in the least (in spite of glossing over origin elements). There's no reason the next SM film can't take a page from that book. Any new take will inevitably "retell" motivations. It's a jumping off point that's necessary to place the beginning of an arc.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Well, are you?


I can't wait. We'll finally get a funny Spider-Man, they'll finally leave his mask on. No Power Ranger Green Goblin. Venom for more then 2 seconds. Sandman ISN'T Uncle Ben's killer. MJ doesn't look like an old lady. Peter will actually be in high school for more than the first 30 minutes of the film like Stan did it. We'll get a Peter that isn't monotoned! The list goes on and on.

You dont know that. Some things may be better, some may be worse. We dont know anything about how the new series will progress.

On one hand, I'm going to miss the old group. I've watched this cast for nearly ten years and its going to feel strange not seeing them on screen. I was looking forward to what Sam was cooking up for SM4. Yet, I like the idea of Peter in high school, and another shot at the Green Goblin.