Comics Are you ready for the SECOND COMING of the Mutant Messiah?

[Manic]

Or give them to Hope.

 

[Havok83]

Or give them to Hope.

that could work bc as the Mutant Messiah, Hope might be able to utilize all that power to restore all the mutant powers that were lost following M day

 

[Manic]

I really hope that happens. The mutants get their powers back, but to keep things from getting crazy... let's say there are no new mutant births unless at least one of the parents is a mutant. You know, all the mutants get to stay or come back, but "no new mutants."

 

[Havok83]

Get ready for a long ass crossver. Here's the checklist

Apparently here's the checklist for the crossover

Chapter 1 X-men Second coming
Chapter 2 Uncanny X-men 523
Chapter 3 New Mutants 12
Chapter 4 X-men Legacy 235
Chapter 5 X-Force 26

X-men Second coming -Revelations X-Factor 204

Chapter 6 Uncanny X-men 524
Chapter 7 New Mutants 13
Chapter 8 X-men Legacy 236
Chapter 9 X-Force 27

X-men Second coming Revelations X-Factor 205
X-men Second Coming Revelations Hellbound 1
X-men Second Coming Revelations Classifed

Chapter 10 Uncanny X-men 525
Chapter 11 New Mutants 14
Chapter 12 X-men Legacy 237
Chapter 13 X-Force 28

X-men Second Coming Revelations X-Factor 206
X-men Second Coming Hellbound 2

Chapter 14 X-men Second Coming Finale

 

[UraniaChang]

That's a very long list.

And up to this moment I still can't see what's so special about Hope. = =|||

They better not get the wrong Messiah.

 

[Manic]

14 chapters and 6 tie-in issues?! For that much money on an X-Men storyline, I had better get the second coming of Christ along with that.

 

[GambitXremy]

what the hells hellbound

 

[Havok83]

what the hells hellbound

Im assuming it will involve Illyana and Limbo

 

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, she's someone huge for a crossover like this...I'm still thinking it'll be the least surprising, aka JG.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

God, this is gonna take forever

 

[Havok83]

something that big it better be Jean, even if she is predictable. They've been hyping and teasing her return for years and the build up is here for it. It would be anticlimatic if she doesnt show up

 

[OutcryX]

i am thinking that she will return..but all the hoopla wont be JUST for her return...something else is going on.

 

[Brainiac 8]

The return of Sugarman? I would so be hyped for that.

 

[Havok83]

Not so fast guys:

You saw a glimmer of Hope's power in "Cable" #21. She stopped a bullet cold. She dished back what Bishop served. But is that telekinesis…or something else entirely?
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24171

You know what, I just read an interesting theory that actually makes alot of sense. Theory goes that Hope does not have telepathy or TK and thats not what she used in Hope. Hope's power is to see and utilize others powers at their full potential. Think of Synch. In Cable 21, she accessed Cable's TK to stop that bullet. Right now, Hope's powers are just emerging and have yet to mature but at its full potential, presumably, she'll be able to access and restore the lost mutant powers from Mday.

 

[Psykoelf]

You know what, I just read an interesting theory that actually makes alot of sense. Theory goes that Hope does not have telepathy or TK and thats not what she used in Hope. Hope's power is to see and utilize others powers at their full potential. Think of Synch. In Cable 21, she accessed Cable's TK to stop that bullet. Right now, Hope's powers are just emerging and have yet to mature but at its full potential, presumably, she'll be able to access and restore the lost mutant powers from Mday.

So, if we go back to the issue of Hope wiping Rogue clean, this theory would say that Hope, as a new born baby, had her ability present and active already, synched into Rogue's ability, adapted it to it's maximum capability and drained the billions of personalities that Rogue had, whilst also curing her of the Strain 88 disease, leaving her as a blank slate? Curious?

 

[Havok83]

So, if we go back to the issue of Hope wiping Rogue clean, this theory would say that Hope, as a new born baby, had her ability present and active already, synched into Rogue's ability, adapted it to it's maximum capability and drained the billions of personalities that Rogue had, whilst also curing her of the Strain 88 disease, leaving her as a blank slate? Curious?

I can go for that. More potential evidence to support this theory also comes from Cable 21. When she stopped the bullet, the color of the TK effect was blue. We last saw Cable use his TK in Cable 16, and it was a blue power signature. If you notice when Bishop blasts Hope, he uses a pink power signature. Hope then blasts him back and the power signature for that is also pink. Im thinking that what she hit him with was not TK, but was his own power, and I think the different coloring was used to distinguish between the two

 

[The Englishman]

Interesting.....

 

[Manic]

So Hope might have the ability to control other people's powers, then? That could explain how she might kill 2 million people in 8 minutes-- if she causes every mutant on Earth to lose control of their powers simultaneously, there could be countless casualties of both the mutants losing control and nearby humans.

God, I hope that's not what happens in Second Coming. The last thing the X-comics' status quo needs is the opening of the first concentration camps, basically confirming the dystopian futures that literally every time travelling X-man have tried to prevent.

 

[Havok83]

The X-mansion was basically turned into a concentration camp following M day with the government siezing control, forcing them to register and keeping them locked down with sentinel surveilance. I dont think Hope will mass murder people in 2nd Coming and prove Bishop's future correct. That would entail Marvel writing the X line into a corner and I dont see the story potential in that

 

[Manic]

That would entail Marvel writing the X line into a corner and I dont see the story potential in that

Yes, because Marvel hasn't made a habit of writing the X-line into a corner recently. *coughdecimationcough*

 

[Psykoelf]

So Hope might have the ability to control other people's powers, then? That could explain how she might kill 2 million people in 8 minutes-- if she causes every mutant on Earth to lose control of their powers simultaneously, there could be countless casualties of both the mutants losing control and nearby humans.

God, I hope that's not what happens in Second Coming. The last thing the X-comics' status quo needs is the opening of the first concentration camps, basically confirming the dystopian futures that literally every time travelling X-man have tried to prevent.

Sounds a slight rehash of the Ultimate Apocalypse storyline if she can control other mutants. The last part has a Terminator-esque feel to it, in that this future of concentration camps is inevitable, just like Judgement Day was. Oh well it's only, what, another 2 months to go?

 

[Manic]

Ultimate Apocalypse?
1. They actually made an Apocalypse story in the Ultimate Universe?
2. People were still reading the Ultimate comics when it happened?

 

[Havok83]

Ultimate Apocalypse?
1. They actually made an Apocalypse story in the Ultimate Universe?
2. People were still reading the Ultimate comics when it happened?

yep they threw in Ultimate Apocalypse, Ultimate Onslaught, Ultimate Stryfe and Ultimate Phoenix all in one arc. It actually wasnt bad

 

[OutcryX]

wow...thats ALOT of heavy hitters.

 

[Havok83]

wow...thats ALOT of heavy hitters.

Kirkman wanted to go out with a bang and that he did. Even threw in the Ultimate Fantastic Four. As horrible as his run was, he at least wrote one decent final arc. Art was a much needed improvement as well over what we had for most of his run as well