The Amazing Spider-Man Audiences...

[chaseter]

I'm talking about characterization, not design. I don't want Ock wearing the green spandex any more than I want to see Green Goblin in a purple night cap with elf boots and a handbag.

Well as you can read above, I said that his motivations were different. But, the look of him cannot be topped imo and Molina did a great job period so his predecessor has large boots to fill which I doubt get filled. I just loved Molina as Doc Ock.

 

[bryanss3]

they werent glad after SM3

$890,871,626 says otherwise I guess bad movie make that much money..... let's ask the Spirit oh what's that? $39,031,337 lets try Superman Returns 391,081,192. I'm not saying money is all that matters to decide if something is good cause Transformers 2 made $834,969,807, but thats bad and it's not getting rebooted?

 

[MadVillainy]

but how many people actually liked it. Everyone saw it because its Spiderman, but there are a smaller number of ppl who REALLY enjoyed it.

Either way GA will just be happy with another Spidey film Raimi or not

 

[Mister J]

You list Vulture but apparently he wasn't good enough for Sony. They will go for big villains so Morbius and Silvermane are out...thank god. Tombstone is also pretty stupid. Nobody wants to see a mobster with a metal plated head ramming crap.

Even taking into account the names you take issue with, the point is that there's plenty in the villain game to use, as opposed to automatically having to turn to Osborne and Octavious. I didn't even mention Scorpion.

Sony originally had plans go all the way to six films, so either they planned to retread villains all along or they're comfortable with pulling from the remainder of Spidey's rogues. Either way, I'm not seeing a cause for worry here.

 

[chaseter]

I saw a cause to worry when big wigs got in between the creative team and did what they wanted with SM3 so now...they are going to do the same with this movie. We will see a big villain in the first movie or the second movie. They need a selling point to these movies and to try and keep the fanbase that are weary but go see this movie. They aren't going to keep fans with Tombstone and Shocker being main villains.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I'm not taking sides with this whole reboot business, I'm just saying, general audiences aren't ******s. It's not like they don't know what a reboot is with superhero movies. They'll know what's going on.

 

[bryanss3]

I wish they could use the Kingpin then we could see some non main-event Spidey rouges like Shocker

 

[bryanss3]

I'm not taking sides with this whole reboot business, I'm just saying, general audiences aren't ******s. It's not like they don't know what a reboot is with superhero movies. They'll know what's going on.

Agreed what I'm saying is people aren't necessarily be excited for a reboot or get why they're doing it, cause successful franchises don't usually reboot. Thats usually left to failures. 2/3 isn't a failure no matter how you cut it.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Even with introducing Norman Osbourne and Harry again is troublesome. People have seen those chracter's story play out in all three films. It's not like it ended in Spidey 1.

 

[Sawyer]

And General audiences will say "wait what? again? I was waiting for the next one"

General audiences arent bright enough to know what they want. Throw some good action in there and they'll be eating out of the palm of your hand.

 

[Crook]

These concerns will be irrelevant by the one true factor of any blockbuster film; good storytelling and enticing reason(s) to make people go out and pay for the movie. That's ALL that matters.

Avatar had worst concerns and more troubling hurdles to get through, and it laughed it's way to the #2 Box-office spot of all time with the greatest legs Hollywood hasn't seen since Titanic. You make a film that hits the right spots, and the audience couldn't care less about trivial flaws. If they enjoy it, the film will reap from benefits.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

General audiences arent bright enough to know what they want. Throw some good action in there and they'll be eating out of the palm of your hand.

Cause that worked so well for the Incredible Hulk.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Even with introducing Norman Osbourne and Harry again is troublesome. People have seen those chracter's story play out in all three films. It's not like it ended in Spidey 1.

Yes, but their story was changed drastically. We didn't get the true Goblin legacy at all. The only thing that was accurate about it, was that in the end Harry redeemed himself by saving his friends.

 

[Sawyer]

Cause that worked so well for the Incredible Hulk.

What didnt work for The Incredible Hulk was that it had the name "Hulk" on it after that monstrous turd in 2003.

 

[MadVillainy]

why are people bringing up TIH like it was a bomb

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Yes, but their story was changed drastically. We didn't get the true Goblin legacy at all. The only thing that was accurate about it, was that in the end Harry redeemed himself by saving his friends.

It doesn't matter how accurate it was. The fact is, people saw over three films, Norman die and Peter and Harry fight.

Norman Osbourne walks back into a room will be a giant WTF. It would be like watching Marvel rebooting Iron Man by just having Stane walk into a room talking down to Tony Stark.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

why are people bringing up TIH like it was a bomb

Who said it was a bomb? It didn't successfully bring the franchise back just by putting awesome action sequences into it which was the assertion being made.

Stop being so sensitive.

 

[Sawyer]

why are people bringing up TIH like it was a bomb

People here consider anything below Iron Man numbers to be a failure, apparently.

 

[chaseter]

why are people bringing up TIH like it was a bomb

Why do people bring up SM3 like it was a bomb

SM3 sucked but it made tons of money so I don't see your point.

 

[Crook]

It doesn't matter how accurate it was. The fact is, people saw over three films, Norman die and Peter and Harry fight.

Norman Osbourne walks back into a room will be a giant WTF. It would be like watching Marvel rebooting Iron Man by just having Stane walk into a room talking down to Tony Stark.

You'd have to be an idiot not to realize what was going on by that point. An entirely new cast, an earlier chronological setting, is all you need to tell you "ok, this isn't related to the other ones".

BB and TDK had morons watching who still thought there were connections to Burton. Do you really care about such a small number of people?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

It doesn't matter how accurate it was. The fact is, people saw over three films, Norman die and Peter and Harry fight.

Norman Osbourne walks back into a room will be a giant WTF. It would be like watching Marvel rebooting Iron Man by just having Stane walk into a room talking down to Tony Stark.

Nope. Because Norman's part of the legacy was told completely wrong and he was made into a sympathetic character.

Norman would be a ruthless cold-hearted basatard who chucks girls off bridges in the reboot. THAT's how he should've been done in Raimi's films ANYWAYS.

 

[MadVillainy]

Who said it was a bomb? It didn't successfully bring the franchise back just by putting awesome action sequences into it which was the assertion being made.

Stop being so sensitive.

oh boy
sounds like someone else is being sensitive honestly

I'm just saying Ive heard TIH come up a bunch of time in the past few hours all with negative connotations
Chill out

Why do people bring up SM3 like it was a bomb

SM3 sucked but it made tons of money so I don't see your point.

I havent heard anyone act like SM3 was a financial bomb

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Nope. Because Norman's part of the legacy was told completely wrong and he was made into a sympathetic character.

Norman would be a ruthless cold-hearted basatard who chucks girls off bridges in the reboot. THAT's how he should've been done in Raimi's films ANYWAYS.

Are you reading what I'm saying? I'm saying how the story played out doesn't matter to people that have no reference point other than the movies. The point is they've seen Norman's story play to a conclusion.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

oh boy
sounds like someone else is being sensitive honestly

I'm just saying Ive heard TIH come up a bunch of time in the past few hours all with negative connotations
Chill out

I havent heard anyone act like SM3 was a financial bomb

I'm not being sensitive. I want a reboot.

You can jump into the conversation, just don't assert anything into cause it messes stuff up. I was arguing that putting massive fights into a reboot doesn't matter as proven by the Hulk.

I just got online a few hours ago. I haven't read any of the Hulk bashing going on.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Are you reading what I'm saying? I'm saying how the story played out doesn't matter to people that have no reference point other than the movies. The point is they've seen Norman's story play to a conclusion.

Honestly if someone can't tell the difference between two different actors playing the same character in a different way, then they don't deserve to be watching films anyways. Esspecially when this is most certainly gonna be marketed as a retelling/reboot.