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Age of Ultron Avengers: Age of Ultron Fan Review Thread (Spoilers) - Part 1

I felt like there was a ton of story and it got trimmed down to a really fast paced movie. I still loved it, but it just happens so fast. The scene where Tony exaplains the a.I. to bruce really lost me. And I think my favorite scene overall was when everyone was just sitting around talking, taking a break from being superheroes
 
Whedon said a whole bunch of stuff was cut out. This movie would make a hell of a director's cut.
 
I felt like there was a ton of story and it got trimmed down to a really fast paced movie. I still loved it, but it just happens so fast. The scene where Tony exaplains the a.I. to bruce really lost me. And I think my favorite scene overall was when everyone was just sitting around talking, taking a break from being superheroes

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Whedon said a whole bunch of stuff was cut out. This movie would make a hell of a director's cut.

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I felt like there was a ton of story and it got trimmed down to a really fast paced movie. I still loved it, but it just happens so fast. The scene where Tony exaplains the a.I. to bruce really lost me. And I think my favorite scene overall was when everyone was just sitting around talking, taking a break from being superheroes

Agreed. And this is why I enjoyed the film much more on my second viewing: I was able to catch a lot of the things I missed the first time I saw it (since everything moves so fast).

Age of Ultron's biggest problem is that it has a dense story; too dense, because of how fast the film covers everything. There's nothing I hate about the film, but I think that it needed to have a longer running time so that it could pace itself better.
 
I didn't find it nearly as good as the first Avengers. That whole thing with the synthetic body that we are introduced to in the last 1/2 of the film. WTF? And how is he able to lift the hammer?

I found the film for the most part confusing. And why did they kill off Quicksilver---assuming he will stay dead. You never know in Sci-Fi.
 
A little late to the show here. I enjoyed it, but to me it was the same formula as the first, but not done as well. I didn't think Ultron was strong enough as a villain and his motive was somewhat week. Like others have said it could have used a bit longer of a running time to flesh out more of the story and new characters.

I also felt the comedic elements and tone were a bit too much and took away from the feeling of an actual threat. I think Winter Soldier had the perfect mix and stands as my favorite Marvel film (slightly over The Avengers).

I'm in the minority here, but I'm getting a bit tired of RDJ. I know he is the big star, but it's the same old act. A movie (after Infinity War) as the New Avengers formed at the end of the movie would be great IMO, but I can't see that happening.
 
A little late to the show here. I enjoyed it, but to me it was the same formula as the first, but not done as well. I didn't think Ultron was strong enough as a villain and his motive was somewhat week. Like others have said it could have used a bit longer of a running time to flesh out more of the story and new characters.

I also felt the comedic elements and tone were a bit too much and took away from the feeling of an actual threat. I think Winter Soldier had the perfect mix and stands as my favorite Marvel film (slightly over The Avengers).

I'm in the minority here, but I'm getting a bit tired of RDJ. I know he is the big star, but it's the same old act. A movie (after Infinity War) as the New Avengers formed at the end of the movie would be great IMO, but I can't see that happening.

Winter Soldier was better than AoU.
 
Welp. Guess I'll make my first post something of a controversial one.

Not only did I love the film, I think it's a better film than the first.

I still love the first film, but it's power has waned somewhat these past 3 years. The novelty of it was so strong that we all rode the wave of it being a success for a long time. It was an unprecedented genre film, and the fact that Whedon was able to put to bed all of the doubt people had was a miracle.

But at the end of the day, with three years to relax and become a little more objective towards it, I find it to be a tad more formulaic and stock than I did before.

This criticism has been made about it before, so what I just typed was nothing new, but that's how I feel. The awe and surprise and the "holy crap this a legit AVENGERS MOVIE!" has died down and now I think it's just a tad too by the numbers for it's own good. No, I don't think Whedon should have tried to write a crazy plot and do everything ever or anything, but the sheen has dulled. It's still a rousing adventure film with wonderful performances and good humor and even one of the best superhero films ever made. But like I said, it doesn't give me that crazy jolt of enthusiasm as it did in 2012.

AOU, on the other-hand, didn't fill me with that OTT giddy feeling because I knew what to expect. I had seen Marvel do this before, so naturally that crazy hype was going to be lessened. I've seen the film three times now and I think that it definitely holds up as a more complete experience than the first film.

I've read most of the issues people have with it, and I just don't agree with 98% of them. What some are calling rushed, I call it streamlined. Seriously, this film moves like a shot and never sacrifices character. It's a very finely honed piece of entertainment. Each character serves their purpose well and nobody feels pushed to the side.

I know for us comic fans that grew up with these characters for so many years it's hard to separate comic from film. Somebody could be the biggest, say, Quicksilver fan on Earth and end up hating this movie because they felt he wasn't given enough to do. Same with Vision or Scarlett Witch or whoever else. And all to easily this bias could turn into a criticism that may be unfair.
I totally understand this, but at the same time I think context and objectivity need to come into play. I personally wanted more Vision in the film but then I have to stop and ask myself: "But did he serve his purpose well within the context of the film or was he truly not utilized effectively what so ever?" And my answer is yes, he did serve his purpose well.

Ultron, I found him to be utterly delightful. Some say he wasn't threatening, I felt he was perfectly threatening. In fact, I felt he was more of a threat than Loki. A little more one on one ass-kicking with him and the Avengers would have been welcome, but as it stands he's probably my favorite villain of the MCU so far.

The chemistry between all the characters was on it's A-game the entire time and the action was insanely good. Like, "some of the best of any comic book movie" good.

I also personally like how Whedon didn't try and make the story of this film some MCU game changer. I think a more self contained plot before Infinity War is needed, as it gives the characters some time to just breath and be themselves before the cosmic crap hits the fan.

Idk, it's like I said: I think this film will hold up stronger on multiple viewings much better than the first film has. Three times, and each time was better and better. I have little nitpicks. Some of the humor fell flat, I genuinely don't think Hulk was used all that well and yea, Thor's side mission, while it does contribute to the plot, felt tacked on. But overall AOU is a speeding bullet of a superhero film that is bigger, weirder and more personal than it's predecessor.
 
I have watched this movie and after watching this movie i found that this movie is not too good as compare to last movie of this series.
 
Compare AoU to something like Guardians of the Galaxy: Anyone can watch Guardians without having seen the other Marvel films and still understand everything that's going on. And, to me, it sounds like James Gunn really wants to keep his movies separate to some extent so that they can stand on their own better, and I understand why he wants to do that.

You can't even compare the two or the duties each held. GOTG is so distanced from everything that's taken place within the MCU, aside from the existence of Thanos. Gunn could concentrate on unspooling the cosmic side. Gunn wasn't even close to being able to manage the perception of "cramming" the way Whedon did. I thought GOTG was chalk full of too much lazy exposition because of it.

The other thing is Gunn dialogue couldn't touch Whedonesque even on his best day. Lemme just say that I'm ECSTATIC Gunn isn't the one taking on the Infinity Wars.
 
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I feel the need to say this in advance, since my review focuses a lot on the negatives: I do like this film. It's not a bad one, but I don't think it's great either. I think it's a casting change (Quicksilver) and a rewrite away from a great film. It's simply easier to talk about the bad for the most part as most of my good points don't lend themselves to much discussion. But I do address them in the end of it. So, despite the negativity, please don't get the impression I hate this film.

Age of Ultron's issues start popping up in the opening sequence. Though the fight is very well choreographed, it manages to weaken the ending to Winter Soldier and start a cringe-inducing running gag with "Language!" The film kicks off with The Avengers going after what is apparently the last HYDRA base, which feels like there's a film missing. The last appearance of HYDRA in Winter Soldier had them still as this massive organization where we have only glimpsed the tip of the iceberg. Here, however, we jump straight to HYDRA's last stand. It doesn't add anything to the film that this is their last stand instead of just another raid on a major HYDRA base and feels rushed to just get them out of the way for whatever they have planned going forward.

Rushed is a good description for most of the film up to the third act, really. Unfortunately, instead of feeling like a film that's just constantly moving (ex. The Dark Knight), it feels rushed. Ultron's creation, though a really good scene, is one of the worst cases of this. I'll go into that more when I talk about Ultron later though. Apparently an hour or more of the film was left on the cutting room floor and it really shows.

Steve I think this film handles well but there's not a whole lot to say. He's the moral center of the film, as he should be. Evans plays the part well, as always. The language joke was awful every time they went back to it. Seeds were planted for Civil War and I thought it felt natural, building on points from Winter Soldier in regards to innocent people dying (...yeah, right. We'll get to that later.) when people try to stop a war before it starts. I do have another issue with him and other characters, however I'm going to address that when talking about Tony.

I think this film attempted to do potentially interesting things with Stark but came up short. Rather than Ultron being a Frankenstein's Monster kind of situation, Stark simply switches him on. This, unfortunately, gives Stark much less to feel guilty about than the film tries to tell you. I think it would have been more effective, since we're ignoring Pym as his creator anyway, if Stark just created him. But I'll deal with Ultron more later, lots to say about him. There's one scene when Stark wants to turn on Vision that just left me baffled as to what was going on. Everyone just...started fighting. It was like:
Tony: "I want to turn on Vision!"
Banner: "No!"
Tony: "Yes!"
*Cap walks in*
Cap: "No!"
Hawkeye: "FIIIIIIIGHT!"
*Thor wanders in after a while*
Thor: "I'm gonna turn him on anyway!"
*Fight over*
I don't know why, it just started happening. And then it stopped. It didn't really accomplish anything, it didn't really add anything. Banner was needlessly involved even though he was opposing Stark moments seconds before. Maybe they were trying to do some kind of Civil War set up?

Thor...umm...was there. That's about it really. His side plot feels like an advertisement for future films. Scarlet Witch showed him the trailer for Thor: Ragnarok and so he goes and wades in a kiddie pool looking for the trailer of Infinity War. While the cave sequence plays a role with Vision, I don't think it was necessary to be handled the way it was and felt like the film paused to advertise future films to the audience that likely will be there anyway. Going back to my point about the film doing a poor job following up on Winter Soldier, it also brushes over a plot point of Thor: The Dark World. Between films, Selvig is just suddenly back to normal with no explanation.

Hulk, despite being one of the breakout hits of the first, was just kind of there as well for the most part. The only notable thing with him is his relationship with Black Widow so I'll talk about that. It's awful. Every scene about it had me cringing. Ruffalo and Johansson have no romantic chemistry and their relationship is so far out of left field that even they didn't know it was happening. Johansson has said in interviews that she doesn't get that relationship and why it happened, if memory serves. She even convinced the Russos to give Widow a Hawkeye necklace in Winter Soldier to point to them having a relationship. And Widow wanting to run away with him was far too sudden, they've been dating for…2 days? 3 days? It felt out of character for her and much to quick regardless. Oh and so Fury somehow knew this was going to happen? ...kay. This just simply did not work on any level. There's also the distinct feeling with him of retreading old ground. He's not really pushed in any new directions.

There was a lot of controversy about Black Widow and, though I don't agree with it, I can see why. I like the idea of her not being able to have kids because of that program. It makes sense, it works fine. However, how it's phrased in that scene doesn't do it any favours with "You're not the only monster" coming right after a line about how she can't have kids. I can see how it'd lead people to think that was what was being referred to, though I really doubt that was the intent. It was simply a poorly executed delivery of that information. The flashes we got of her backstory were good, however I'm glad I watched Agent Carter prior as otherwise they feel a bit too brushed over. While they don't really take up any more or less time than the other visions, due to her lack of an origin-explaining solo film, the quick flashes feel too brief when it feels like there may be more to explore there. And though it wasn't the film's fault and I don't hold it against it, I'm not sure why Julie Delpy popped up there. She's a great actress but she has about three lines of dialogue and 5 seconds of screen time, I don't see why such a talented actress was needed for a nothing role. But back to Widow, I think she was serviceable her. Not really great but not bad. It felt like there was potential for her to be a lot better than she was. Winter Soldier did a better job with her.

Hawkeye was fun this time around, thankfully. Whereas he was a mind controlled puppet in the first with nothing to do, here he actually got things and Renner did a great job. He was funny (pretty sure his bit about shooting Quicksilver at the end there was the funniest part of the film) and his family was well handled. I can't say I'm overall fond of this element, however despite that it was well executed.

Scarlet Witch was probably my favourite character in this film. She was simply well handled, I thought, and Elizabeth Olsen did a great job. Loved her scene with Ultron Prime at the end, taking out his heart. Not too much to say about her though, I just really enjoyed her. :atp:

Quicksilver seems like he was good on paper. He got an arc, a funny moment or two. Could have been a good character. Unfortunately, they hired Aaron Taylor Johnson for the part. ATJ has the charisma of a cardboard cutout in this role, much like Godzilla.

Maybe I would have liked Vision more had he not been hyped up for me. As is though, he was fine. He was...there. That's really about it. He had a really good moment with the last Ultron drone at the end, the makeup and effects on him were good, but overall he's just fine. I don't know, maybe it's just because of all the hype for him, but he was just fine to me.

Ultron...oh god where to begin. Ultron, sadly, joins the ranks of Marvel's mediocre villains. They cast the perfect actor for him, however they don't really do anything interesting with him. The scene where Ultron turns on and is confused is pretty well handled. He's scared, trying to figure out what's going on. It was a good scene. Unfortunately, it does feel too rushed. In this scene he almost instantly jumps from a quest for peace as programmed and quickly just jumping to "must exterminate Avengers so humanity can evolve" with no progression. Later in the film, he jumps again with no progression from the previous motivation to "must cause extinction-level event so humanity can evolve." It just doesn't give you enough time to understand him. It tries to make him childish and I'll touch on what I think is the intent with that later but they do nothing with it. The film tries to imply Stark imprinted on him and that's why he shares elements of Stark's personality, however Stark doesn't even interact with him prior to him going rogue. As I said before, they should have gone with more of a Frankenstein's monster type of situation instead of Stark pretty much just hitting the on button. It tries to make this personal with Ultron but there is no relationship with him to make it as personal as it tells you this is. And to top it all off, he's just not threatening. This surprised me the most, as the trailers made him seem like he would be and they cast someone who could easily pull that off. But in the film, he's not in the slightest. He's ineffective, constantly getting beaten at every turn and he never seems like a threat to the team or the world. Even his CGI is often spotty (on the Prime form) and the lip sink off. Ultron is a massive missed opportunity.

Fury being in this was odd and yet another element that weakened the ending of Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier disbands SHIELD and Fury goes off into hiding, everyone thinking he's dead. Here he just pops back up again with a helicarrier and it really doesn't feel like what should have been universe-changing events from Winter Soldier had any lasting impact.

Speaking of the helicarrier, let's talk about the climax. The climax was well choreographed, as was most of the action, and overall enjoyable. However, it really did have a lack of stakes. Ultron is supposedly such a big threat, however it seems not a single person in the city dies. I kept an eye out after wondering about it and didn't see a single body. The Avengers seemed able to save everyone. This doesn't really lend itself to Ultron feeling like a threat. The only casualty of the battle was Quicksilver and that had no effect as the character was played by a plank of wood with a face drawn on it. I think it would have been more effective and dramatic to have had the Avengers unable to save everybody. Have civilians actually die and the Avengers unable to save them. I think that would have added to the climax, made Ultron feel more like a threat and had more drama than Quicksilver's death.

As I said I would talk about in the paragraph about Ultron, the film I think attempts some kind of family theme but doesn't manage to pull it off or say anything. I say this because Whedon often talked about how Ultron is child-like and it comes through in the film, even with references about how Stark is like his father. Combine this with the introduction of Hawkeye's family, the twins, the settling down talk during Cap's hallucination and Natasha not being able to have kids and I think there was some kind of point he wanted to make. However, nothing is said. They do nothing with this and the film has nothing else to say thematically so I assume this was what Whedon wanted to do with this film. It just, unfortunately, isn't fully realized. Or even partially realized. It just...is there kind of.

The cinematography, as with most Marvel movies, is too digital looking. Too polished and clean.

Despite all these complaints, I don't think that Age of Ultron is a bad film. It's fun. The action scenes are well choreographed, there's some good humour and certain scenes are really good (ex. Ultron's awakening, Scarlet Witch taking Ultron Prime's heart, Vision and Ultron at the end). It's just easier to talk about the flaws for the most part. My good points don't leave much to discuss really. As with the first, there are a lot of good ideas but they're rarely well executed. It's a shame, as I think the film is one or two drafts away from a great film. As is, it's a fun but greatly flawed film. 6.8/10
Excellent review. This is exactly how I feel about the film.
 
You know, having had a chance to recently re-watch the film again (don't ask how :oldrazz:), this film was such a mixed bag for me at times.

I think, without a shadow of a doubt, the BIGGEST improvement from the first film going into this one was the Visuals/Cinematography. THIS was the way that I wanted to see the first Avengers shot and filmed for the big screen. Enough thanks can't be said to James Gunn for having recommended his Guardians' DP to Whedon for Ultron.

That said, the thing that frustrates me the most is that this film had so much potential to be BETTER. "Age of Ultron" isn't by any means a bad or even a mediocre film. It's just that there was so much untapped potential that really frustrates me as both a viewer and as a fan.

Ultron's introduction in the Avengers' Tower was a great setup but he quickly became a joke for the rest of the film. I mean for someone (Whedon) that was such a big fan of the character from the comics, why did Joss make Ultron so weak in his own film?

As others have pointed out, there wasn't any real sense of tension or danger for the characters, other than when Hulk was on a rampage or when it looked like Hawkeye was going to bite the bullet. Even by comic book film standards/rules, I have a hard time believing that the likes of Hawkwye and Black Widow can so easily deal with Ultron's robots the way they did. If Hawkeye and Black Widow can take them on so easily then they shouldn't even be a issue for the big four.

And speaking of Hawkeye, I was at least glad that he had his moment to shine in this film and got his due after getting the shaft in the first film with his whole mind control arc.

Scarlet Witch was shown/portrayed as a bigger threat than the titular villain. And I feel like Joss really went backwards with the development that a few characters made from their previous appearances.

You had all of "Iron Man 3" devoted into showing Tony getting over his demons, then sure enough you have another film where the crux of his journey is yet again, him battling his inner demons. For a franchise that's clearly not interested in doing a "Demon in a Bottle" adaptation, they sure spend a lot of time with Tony dealing with his inner/past demons.lol

It's kind of funny on how Whedon's Avengers film has a tendency to undo the emotional conclusion that previous solo films establish in their finales.

We had this whole montage of Fury burning his old life away and leaving SHIELD behind in "TWS" only to return with his eye patch and with a Hellicarrier for this film. And even in the first Avengers' film, you had Thor finding a way to come back that was just summarized with a quick line from Loki after his first solo film made such a big deal of him destroying the Bi-Frost bridge.

I have so many other things that I'd like to mention but they've all been covered numerous times by previous posters already.
 
I must say, after re-watching this movie 2 or 3 more times I now place it in my top 3 MCU films. I might even like it better than the first one. I was able to watch it without any hyped up expectations or without any of the oft-repeated criticisms in mind, and I enjoyed it a lot more. I really think Whedon did a fantastic job.

1. CA:TWS
2. A: AOU
3. The Avengers
4. Iron Man
5. Ant-Man
6. GOTG
7. Iron Man 3
8. CA: TFA
9. Thor
10. The Incredible Hulk
11. Thor 2
12. Iron Man 2
 
I enjoyed the film but I agree with many things here, a big one being the no civilian casualties which might sound cynical but you just gotta be like "devastation that big and no one died?". The action was good, but I think for marvel to make a fantastic Avengers sequel they need to raise the stakes higher. Another thing was how Ultron was defeated and how easily he was defeated. In the comics it was his body and mind that were the threat and it took a lot to beat him while in this it just seems like he summons an army (in a very short amount of time) and they have to defeat the army and Ultron who could be mistake as just one of his own soldiers. 6.837464/10 for sure.
 
People did die though, we just didn't see it.
 
You know, having had a chance to recently re-watch the film again (don't ask how :oldrazz:), this film was such a mixed bag for me at times.

I think, without a shadow of a doubt, the BIGGEST improvement from the first film going into this one was the Visuals/Cinematography. THIS was the way that I wanted to see the first Avengers shot and filmed for the big screen. Enough thanks can't be said to James Gunn for having recommended his Guardians' DP to Whedon for Ultron.

That said, the thing that frustrates me the most is that this film had so much potential to be BETTER. "Age of Ultron" isn't by any means a bad or even a mediocre film. It's just that there was so much untapped potential that really frustrates me as both a viewer and as a fan.

Ultron's introduction in the Avengers' Tower was a great setup but he quickly became a joke for the rest of the film. I mean for someone (Whedon) that was such a big fan of the character from the comics, why did Joss make Ultron so weak in his own film?

As others have pointed out, there wasn't any real sense of tension or danger for the characters, other than when Hulk was on a rampage or when it looked like Hawkeye was going to bite the bullet. Even by comic book film standards/rules, I have a hard time believing that the likes of Hawkwye and Black Widow can so easily deal with Ultron's robots the way they did. If Hawkeye and Black Widow can take them on so easily then they shouldn't even be a issue for the big four.

And speaking of Hawkeye, I was at least glad that he had his moment to shine in this film and got his due after getting the shaft in the first film with his whole mind control arc.

Scarlet Witch was shown/portrayed as a bigger threat than the titular villain. And I feel like Joss really went backwards with the development that a few characters made from their previous appearances.

You had all of "Iron Man 3" devoted into showing Tony getting over his demons, then sure enough you have another film where the crux of his journey is yet again, him battling his inner demons. For a franchise that's clearly not interested in doing a "Demon in a Bottle" adaptation, they sure spend a lot of time with Tony dealing with his inner/past demons.lol

It's kind of funny on how Whedon's Avengers film has a tendency to undo the emotional conclusion that previous solo films establish in their finales.

We had this whole montage of Fury burning his old life away and leaving SHIELD behind in "TWS" only to return with his eye patch and with a Hellicarrier for this film. And even in the first Avengers' film, you had Thor finding a way to come back that was just summarized with a quick line from Loki after his first solo film made such a big deal of him destroying the Bi-Frost bridge.

I have so many other things that I'd like to mention but they've all been covered numerous times by previous posters already.

Watched the movie twice at the cinema and this just sums up both of my viewings, its not a bad movie but its a big disappointment and should have been so much better than it turned out. Ultron should have been something special as well but was far from it.
 
You know, having had a chance to recently re-watch the film again (don't ask how :oldrazz:), this film was such a mixed bag for me at times.

I think, without a shadow of a doubt, the BIGGEST improvement from the first film going into this one was the Visuals/Cinematography. THIS was the way that I wanted to see the first Avengers shot and filmed for the big screen. Enough thanks can't be said to James Gunn for having recommended his Guardians' DP to Whedon for Ultron.

That said, the thing that frustrates me the most is that this film had so much potential to be BETTER. "Age of Ultron" isn't by any means a bad or even a mediocre film. It's just that there was so much untapped potential that really frustrates me as both a viewer and as a fan.

Ultron's introduction in the Avengers' Tower was a great setup but he quickly became a joke for the rest of the film. I mean for someone (Whedon) that was such a big fan of the character from the comics, why did Joss make Ultron so weak in his own film?

As others have pointed out, there wasn't any real sense of tension or danger for the characters, other than when Hulk was on a rampage or when it looked like Hawkeye was going to bite the bullet. Even by comic book film standards/rules, I have a hard time believing that the likes of Hawkwye and Black Widow can so easily deal with Ultron's robots the way they did. If Hawkeye and Black Widow can take them on so easily then they shouldn't even be a issue for the big four.

And speaking of Hawkeye, I was at least glad that he had his moment to shine in this film and got his due after getting the shaft in the first film with his whole mind control arc.

Scarlet Witch was shown/portrayed as a bigger threat than the titular villain. And I feel like Joss really went backwards with the development that a few characters made from their previous appearances.

You had all of "Iron Man 3" devoted into showing Tony getting over his demons, then sure enough you have another film where the crux of his journey is yet again, him battling his inner demons. For a franchise that's clearly not interested in doing a "Demon in a Bottle" adaptation, they sure spend a lot of time with Tony dealing with his inner/past demons.lol

It's kind of funny on how Whedon's Avengers film has a tendency to undo the emotional conclusion that previous solo films establish in their finales.

We had this whole montage of Fury burning his old life away and leaving SHIELD behind in "TWS" only to return with his eye patch and with a Hellicarrier for this film. And even in the first Avengers' film, you had Thor finding a way to come back that was just summarized with a quick line from Loki after his first solo film made such a big deal of him destroying the Bi-Frost bridge.

I have so many other things that I'd like to mention but they've all been covered numerous times by previous posters already.

In relation to your second-to-last paragraph, you complain that Whedon didn't explain how Thor got back to earth after Thor 1. Well, of course. Did you want ten minutes of plodding exposition explaining dark magic and advanced science? Or do you think Thor shouldn't have been in the movie at all? Loki's comment about dark energy suited the purposes of the film and also explained why Odin didn't send an entire army to Earth, instead of just Thor. In that case, you can blame Kenneth Branagh for ending the movie in the way he did.

In relation to your comments about Fury and the Helicarrier, its worth pointing out that HYDRA is virtually wiped out in AoU. With its biggest rival gone, its not unreasonable to assume that Fury could get his hands on one, along with a few former subordinates. Its also not unreasonable to assume that he didn't like the idea of living 24/7 with sunglasses on (I'm pretty sure that isn't healthy) and went back to an eyepatch.
 
Having seen AoU again I have quite the opposite reaction to the big post above as I found Ultron to be even better than I remembered. His dialogue and Spader's acting is fantastic and he really comes off as disturbed and conflicted and not just your standard evil AI or robot. He's not the one to physically beat up all the Avengers on his own, but in one sense it makes sense as we have two members on the team that apparently are strong enough to tear up any non-vibranium constructions on Earth with their hands, so they don't have to explain why they can't with earlier Ultron. Instead Ultron comes very close to winning through his plan, and the Avengers are outmaneuvered and thankfully also challenged by not only trying to beat the bad guy. Ultron probably lands just outside the big 3 villains for me in superhero movies now.

Also great to see the movie without 3D, as that remains a gimmick that only makes movies worse.
 
Watched AoU again last night and found myself enjoying it more than ever. I genuinely believe that one needs to see it a couple of times to fully take in everything that's happening. I know its fashionable to hate on Whedon, but I believe he deserves an immense amount of credit for balancing out all of these characters and personalities (twice!) and giving us two of the best CBMs of all time.

I also agree with Mjolnir in relation to Spader as Ultron. That was a brilliant casting decision and Ultron actually has some of the best moments in the film. I now regard him as second only to Loki in terms of MCU villains.
 
Anyone noticed when Cap gives his 'Walk it off' speech,he's talking to his kooky quartet? :D
 
Well I was thinking this... what if Thor grabbed Ultron by his arm and went to another realm like, I don't know, Svartalfheim and just left him there? Could that work?

(I'm bored, apologies)
 
Well I was thinking this... what if Thor grabbed Ultron by his arm and went to another realm like, I don't know, Svartalfheim and just left him there? Could that work?

(I'm bored, apologies)

It might work for a time but I'd say it would be a setup for a later return of Ultron. Especially on Svartalfheim in particular given that there's wrecks of very advanced space ships there, which he would most likely start using to either travel or multiply (probably both).
 
Well, maybe another deserted realm where he has no connections to anything?
 
This wouldn't really help unless all the other Ultron drones were destroyed, anyway. And it'd just be begging for Ultron to escape or be released by someone at some point.
 

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