Age of Ultron Avengers: Age of Ultron Fan Review Thread (Spoilers) - Part 1

[TeeKay]

Having seen AoU again I have quite the opposite reaction to the big post above as I found Ultron to be even better than I remembered. His dialogue and Spader's acting is fantastic and he really comes off as disturbed and conflicted and not just your standard evil AI or robot. He's not the one to physically beat up all the Avengers on his own, but in one sense it makes sense as we have two members on the team that apparently are strong enough to tear up any non-vibranium constructions on Earth with their hands, so they don't have to explain why they can't with earlier Ultron. Instead Ultron comes very close to winning through his plan, and the Avengers are outmaneuvered and thankfully also challenged by not only trying to beat the bad guy. Ultron probably lands just outside the big 3 villains for me in superhero movies now.

Also great to see the movie without 3D, as that remains a gimmick that only makes movies worse.

Yeah Ultron was awesome. He had awesome dialogue and personality. Also, Ultron did really become the Ultron from the comics in the 3rd act. When he gave Natasha that speech amd deatroyed hos old body and when he was giving off that speech," Do you see the beauty of it? The inevitability? You rise, only to fall. You, Avengers, you are my meteor. My swift and terrible sword and the Earth will crack with the weight of your failure. Purge me from your computers; turn my own flesh against me. It means nothing! When the dust settles, the only thing living in this world, will be metal."

I was like yep, that is Ultron alright. His scenes with Vision were just omg for me. Especially when he referred to him as "My Vision". Ultron is the 3rd best MCU villain imo. He was such a joy to watch.

 

[First Avenger]

100% agreed Tee.The character just did gel with me. I liked how he believed to be a hero on his own and wanted to be seen as a saviour through Vision's body. He's also very quotable.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Yeah Ultron was awesome. He had awesome dialogue and personality. Also, Ultron did really become the Ultron from the comics in the 3rd act. When he gave Natasha that speech amd deatroyed hos old body and when he was giving off that speech," Do you see the beauty of it? The inevitability? You rise, only to fall. You, Avengers, you are my meteor. My swift and terrible sword and the Earth will crack with the weight of your failure. Purge me from your computers; turn my own flesh against me. It means nothing! When the dust settles, the only thing living in this world, will be metal."

I was like yep, that is Ultron alright. His scenes with Vision were just omg for me. Especially when he referred to him as "My Vision". Ultron is the 3rd best MCU villain imo. He was such a joy to watch.

That speech was awesome, however I kinda wish it ended like in the TV spots "...When the dust settles, the only thing living in this world, will be ME!"

 

[Leenie]

As I've said before, I really enjoyed Ultron as a villain.

My only real issue is that I wish we could have seen MORE of him in the film. I don't feel like he got enough screen time, so he didn't feel like the heavy presence that was advertised in the trailers and whatnot.

I'm looking forward to getting AoU on Blu-Ray when it comes out. I think the movie is good (not great), but I did enjoy it a lot more during the second time I saw it. I feel like this movie will grow on me more with repeated viewings.

I'm still crossing my fingers for a director's cut/extended cut, but I'm certainly not holding my breath for it.

 

[Frodo]

As I've said before, I really enjoyed Ultron as a villain.

My only real issue is that I wish we could have seen MORE of him in the film. I don't feel like he got enough screen time, so he didn't feel like the heavy presence that was advertised in the trailers and whatnot.

I'm looking forward to getting AoU on Blu-Ray when it comes out. I think the movie is good (not great), but I did enjoy it a lot more during the second time I saw it. I feel like this movie will grow on me more with repeated viewings.

I'm still crossing my fingers for a director's cut/extended cut, but I'm certainly not holding my breath for it.

They is how I felt as well. I thought that they were gonna really play up the whole Master vs Creation antagonism dynamic with Tony vs Ultron, but they really didn't aside from a few lines which were kinda throw away imo. Ultimately, I think there was just too much stuff and plot elements in the air to really play up that rivalry between Stark and Ultron.

They had to introduce classic Avengers characters such as the twins and Vision , and set the stage for CW and Inifinity War in addition to other subplots. If anything I kinda wished that Ultron be the sole baddie in a solo Ironman film in which those themes of creation, intent of creation, rivalry between Man and Machine could be played up more aside from having the baggage of several other characters, subplots , and world building.

That said, Ultron is an Avengers villain who demanded a larger cast of characters I suppose but I still thought he worked even if I felt we didn't see as much of him as we could have.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Saw it for the first time last night on blu-ray, missed it at cinema, liked it, enjoyed it but just missing a lot that made the first one special (dis-counting the 'new' factor obviously of it all), it just felt 'rushed' in many story building ways and relied on action scenes to get it out of a story telling hole. The ending was dis-jointed, the birth of Ultron was a joke, it really was). For me, a 7/10 at best.

 

[DyeLorean]

I'm pretty happy with the film myself, I was just wondering if it could've worked as a 2-part film like Infinity War. I believe there was enough story in it to expand for two films. Anyway, I still love AoU.

 

[King23DC]

It was meh just like the original. Only without the newness. That's why it hasn't been as overrated or warmly received. Iron Man then Winter Soldier are still their best flicks. Better balance of humor and tension. Plus rewarding action. Not white noise action.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This came out on BD here the day I went on holiday so it had a chance to watch it until today, I did enjoy it more then in the cinema and this was my 3rd viewing so that's a good thing. I still have a multitude of problems with it though, Hulk's role is still really disappointing, Ultron has a great personality but just carries no threat throughout also and I think both him and Vision needed more scenes.

The final battle is a big disappointment also, it just gets tedious in the end and I was really enjoying the re-watch up until then but was bored by the end of it. There are simply not enough 'hell yeah!' moments like in the final battle of the first movie and Ultron should have done more in it.

So while I did enjoy the re-watch more than my 2 cinema viewings, I think an EXtended version would help this movie so much.

 

[Lantern Venom]

After watching AoU again, I think it has a special place among CBMs. It's better than any of the Spider-man, Iron Man, and X-men films. It's not quite in the argument for "best ever" CBMs like the Dark Knight, CA:TWS, or The Avengers.
But it still created non-stop drama, a fresh storyline, a memorable villain, and had a big, intricate feel that few CBMs can match.

 

[First Avenger]

It's probably my favourite CBM right now.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Age Of Ultron is a good film, rewatching it I found myself enjoying it just as much as I did when I saw it in the theatres for the first time.

Can't wait to add Ant-Man to my MCU blu-ray collection. Bring on the trailer for Civil War!

 

[Fosterson]

After watching AoU again, I think it has a special place among CBMs. It's better than any of the Spider-man, Iron Man, and X-men films. It's not quite in the argument for "best ever" CBMs like the Dark Knight, CA:TWS, or The Avengers.
But it still created non-stop drama, a fresh storyline, a memorable villain, and had a big, intricate feel that few CBMs can match.

 

[Herolee10]

The film is visually great to see, especially when compared against its predecessor (The Avengers).

And it oozes with the great group dynamics involving the team's members.

But it still makes me scratch my head at times whenever I see on how EASILY the group dispatched Ultron's drones.

So you're telling me that the group, especially with the powerless likes of Black Widow and Hawkeye, can take on killing robots with blasters on their arms with ease, and yet Captain America/Black Widow/Falcon are put to the test by regular human beings with machine guns and regular weaponry?

And the potency behind Ultron's own power blasts were inconsistent. It could kill regular humans and yet barely phased Captain America, who wears no real body armor against bullets (as seen in WS).

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Anyone think Ultron was more scary in his first appearance at the party with limited facial expression and a more robotic modulation for his voice? The next time we see him in the movie, at the church, he has full range of expression and eyes and his voice sounds as clear as Spader's with no robotic or electronic tinge at all, and it's jarring because it feels like he evolves into that form too quickly. I think it would've been more effective if that transition was more gradual.

I also felt it would've been more effective if Ultron's physical mannerisms and gestures were a little more restrained. I think the jokey/quippy nature of Spader's performance would've gone over better if it was more contrasted by a "robot/puppet come to life but can't quite move like a human can" type of physical performance.

Am I alone in this?

 

[Herolee10]

Anyone think Ultron was more scary in his first appearance at the party with limited facial expression and a more robotic modulation for his voice? The next time we see him in the movie, at the church, he has full range of expression and eyes and his voice sounds as clear as Spader's with no robotic or electronic tinge at all, and it's jarring because it feels like he evolves into that form too quickly. I think it would've been more effective if that transition was more gradual.

I also felt it would've been more effective if Ultron's physical mannerisms and gestures were a little more restrained. I think the jokey/quippy nature of Spader's performance would've gone over better if it was more contrasted by a "robot/puppet come to life but can't quite move like a human can" type of physical performance.

Am I alone in this?

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. Ironically enough, my two FAVORITE scenes with Ultron were when he was using a body that didn't feature a mouth on it (aka the Party Scene at the beginning and his final scene with Vision).

Ultron came off more scarier and menacing at his party debut as well.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hhhhmmmm its a tough one, I agree he came across more menacing in those scenes but then I also didn't mind him when he had expressions. The problem was he didn't do enough to establish himself as a threat throughout. So the expressions were not the problem for me.

 

[Lantern Venom]

And the potency behind Ultron's own power blasts were inconsistent. It could kill regular humans and yet barely phased Captain America, who wears no real body armor against bullets (as seen in WS).

He used different types of blasts throughout the movie. He only wounded Helen Cho and had some type of magnetic field that he could project as well.

Anyone think Ultron was more scary in his first appearance at the party with limited facial expression and a more robotic modulation for his voice? The next time we see him in the movie, at the church, he has full range of expression and eyes and his voice sounds as clear as Spader's with no robotic or electronic tinge at all, and it's jarring because it feels like he evolves into that form too quickly. I think it would've been more effective if that transition was more gradual.

I also felt it would've been more effective if Ultron's physical mannerisms and gestures were a little more restrained. I think the jokey/quippy nature of Spader's performance would've gone over better if it was more contrasted by a "robot/puppet come to life but can't quite move like a human can" type of physical performance.

Am I alone in this?

I thought his final Prime form was the best. It was taller, broader, and the face was less human-like. RDJ sold it pretty well too with a moment of nervous humor.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Anyone think Ultron was more scary in his first appearance at the party with limited facial expression and a more robotic modulation for his voice? The next time we see him in the movie, at the church, he has full range of expression and eyes and his voice sounds as clear as Spader's with no robotic or electronic tinge at all, and it's jarring because it feels like he evolves into that form too quickly. I think it would've been more effective if that transition was more gradual.

I also felt it would've been more effective if Ultron's physical mannerisms and gestures were a little more restrained. I think the jokey/quippy nature of Spader's performance would've gone over better if it was more contrasted by a "robot/puppet come to life but can't quite move like a human can" type of physical performance.

Am I alone in this?

I can agree with this as I thought he lost a bit of the scariness once he got his mouth and then started joking on the ship. I do think people overreacted to how jokey he was since he did maybe 3 jokes the entire film. I kind of think a non-moving mouth coupled with maybe it flickering when he spoke would have been a better option, similar to his comic version.

 

[marvellover]

The film is visually great to see, especially when compared against its predecessor (The Avengers).

And it oozes with the great group dynamics involving the team's members.

But it still makes me scratch my head at times whenever I see on how EASILY the group dispatched Ultron's drones.

So you're telling me that the group, especially with the powerless likes of Black Widow and Hawkeye, can take on killing robots with blasters on their arms with ease, and yet Captain America/Black Widow/Falcon are put to the test by regular human beings with machine guns and regular weaponry?

And the potency behind Ultron's own power blasts were inconsistent. It could kill regular humans and yet barely phased Captain America, who wears no real body armor against bullets (as seen in WS).

Ultron's drones are made of paper
I mean the cops with the proper gears can easily destroy them
I would think full grown humans without any special training can probably kill them if they try and avoid the blast which barely does anything in the movie

Ultron built a lot of them for distraction,but they are too easily destroyed
He could keep his final form(Vision) if he had those bots he controlled in the party scene,those are so much more tough

Ultron didn't have any single way to get a victory in this movie

 

[lukebrodyg]

I only saw this movie once in the theatre. It just wasn't that great. The biggest issue, for me, is Joss. I'm so glad his quippy nature is gone now and we don't have to endure anymore of his writing.

Hoping Civil War gets everything back on track since TWS is top notch Marvel IMO.

 

[BoredGuy]

For all he helped to give us, I will never speak a bad word about Whedon

there were some missteps here and there in AoU, but he still created two of the best CBM's ever, the two highest grossing CBM's ever, and ushered in the cinematic universe that keeps us so entertained.

For that, the man deserves a marble statue in his honor.
Not constant whining and monday-morning-quarterbacking

 

[First Avenger]

For all he helped to give us, I will never speak a bad word about Whedon

there were some missteps here and there in AoU, but he still created two of the best CBM's ever, the two highest grossing CBM's ever, and ushered in the cinematic universe that keeps us so entertained.

For that, the man deserves a marble statue in his honor.
Not constant whining and monday-morning-quarterbacking

Whedon is amazing in my eyes. Nothing tops the Avengers movies for me in the CBM genre. I'm one of the fews who actually prefers AoU to A1,he literally made me dream as a kid again with those movies.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Despite my many problems with AOU, its still a decent movie, and not all of the problems came from Joss, Marvel are to blame for plenty as well.

Despite this, I don't suddenly hate Whedon and wish he was still making IW. He certainly can make a badass villain type as proven by The Operative in Serenity who was fearsome and did some dark things so his Thanos wouldnt worry me. Marvel just need to allow directors to go darker with their villains.

I am not convinced with the Russo's yet either. I loved TWS, but that had plenty of problems also and it is the only movie they have done. Plenty of directors have burst onto the scene with great movies and then struggled to replicate that afterwards. So I will wait and see how CW turns out before getting too excited.

I hope CW is great but Joss just has more experience with these event movies so I wish he was still heavily involved personally.

 

[Fosterson]

Whedon is amazing in my eyes. Nothing tops the Avengers movies for me in the CBM genre. I'm one of the fews who actually prefers AoU to A1,he literally made me dream as a kid again with those movies.

Absolutely. Joss gave me two of the best and most enthralling cinematic experiences I've ever had. And for that, I'll be eternally grateful.