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Prisoners of War was a GREAT episode. Loved it. Though it is interesting who the prisoners were. Was suspecting to see more a/b list people as prisoners.
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It is. Just talking about torrents on the Hype is pretty sketchy.
So, you know, you guys should all stop.
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No problem. Thanks for editing out your link earlier.
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Never thank Anubis. He'll make you repay him in sexual favors.
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Just got done with watching episode 9 nightmare in red. A very solid episode. Was great to see a banner episode. And see more devlopment with him and the hulk. Was also great seeing winter solider, falcon in the episode. And very cool debut for red hulk.
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Through means I cannot reveal I have managed to see the next two episodes of "A:EMH" ahead of schedule. Perhaps I am friends with Gateway and we'll leave it at that. As a warning, below are FULL SPOILERS. That said, they are both episodes of the utmost quality which are well worth watching again when they appear on Disney XD next month.
"NIGHTMARE IN RED"
"PRISONER OF WAR"
Great episodes, although the latter was better than the former.
"NIGHTMARE IN RED"
is how I have joked I would describe "ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN", but within it, Josh Fine, Chris Yost and their team of writers manage to accomplish the unthinkable - making hack work written by Jeph Loeb in the comics work. Much as the current Skrull story manages to merge two Marvel Comics stories into one, so does this episode which merges the appearance of the Red Hulk with Geoff Johns' "RED ZONE", an Avengers story from 2003 during his brief stint writing some Marvel Comics at the start of the 21st century (before DC locked him up). Once one knows that, the episode's title and storyline are far more creative than it seems.
This episode pays homage to the "Cap's Kooky Quartet" era in the 1960's AVENGERS comics, although the Maximoff Twins are replaced by Wasp and Hulk, and "Captain America" is really a Skrull imposter (and has been since the end of Season 1). General "Thunderbolt" Ross and his lacky Glenn Talbot, along with Doc Samson, have a meeting with Maria Hill and SHIELD to try to claim their sample of Hulk blood for their own Hulkbuster purposes. They refuse, but a SHIELD spy (who isn't a Skrull for once) manages to steal it anyway and inject it into a willing host, who quickly transforms into a Red Hulk. Rulk proceeds to tear up the Helicarrier, which is terrible timing for the real Hulk as this is one of the few days in which he allows Bruce Banner to "come out" and fish, much to Hawkeye's chagrin. Before long, however, it soon morphs into a conspiracy to capture Bruce Banner with "red" themed characters when the Falcon bursts into Avengers Mansion for an abduction attempt. It all comes to a climax between Rulk and the Avengers in the same section of the docks where Thor fought the Wrecking Crew during the micro-episodes (or in "THOR THE MIGHTY"), and then where the team first assembled against Graviton in the official pilot ("THE BREAK-OUT, PARTS 1-2").
Since the Leader was involved in the creation of Rulk in the comics, and because he was terrifically cast and written in "GAMMA WORLD", I half expected him to appear here. He didn't, but his replacement as mastermind of the "red" plot proved more than suitable. Naturally, the "capture Banner" plan goes to pot when Rulk succumbs to his vendetta against the Hulk and triggers a showdown, which doesn't end well for him. The shield "spy" turns out to be the Winter Soldier. His identity isn't revealed but comic fans know that's Bucky, who was accidentally brought through time from the 1940's into the present (or at least the modern era) by Cap via the Cosmic Cube in "HAIL HYDRA". It was that act which may wind up unraveling time, which was what Kang sought to prevent in "KANG DYNASTY". The rest of the episode plays out as one would expect, which isn't a complaint. Hawkeye and Wasp get some of the best lines in the episode. The Hulk's key advantage in this series isn't mindless strength, but the fact that he's made friends he can trust to have his back. The battle between the Hulks is pretty good although the animators clearly struggled to keep the burly fighters on model.
The one hiccup in the episode is confusing Red Hulk for Hulk in terms of charging Banner with his crimes. Wasp attempts to "lampshade" the color difference to Hill, and she retorts the fact that he "started out gray" according to rumor. It did remind of this awful moment in the 90's "SPIDER-MAN: TAS" when a news reporter confused Morbius for Spider-Man based on the sheer virtue of Morbius standing on a building's ledge, although it was nowhere near that absurd. The fugitive status of Banner and the Hulk was always a tricky wicket for the team, and without SHIELD's permission and Iron Man's resources there was little way to keep Banner from being apprehended. The episode also seems to pile on two mastermind schemes coming at once. While the episode's events are a "happy accident" to the Skrull-Cap in removing the Hulk from the Avengers (the only one of them left with a lot of sheer power), the "red crew" all report to Dell Rusk. While I won't give it all away for those who don't know from the comics or just by rearranging letters, Dell Rusk was voiced by Steve Blum, who voiced at least one red themed villain in this series already. It is odd seeing morally upstanding types like Doc Samson and Falcon working for him, but if they genuinely believe he's the Sec. of Defense they could be under orders to. I do like how the series manages to divide factions of characters like the real Marvel Universe does. There're Avengers, SHIELD agents, former SHIELD agents, SWORD, and U.S. Military types (in addition to independents like Iron Man and Luke Cage).
Lance Reddick voices Falcon, Jon Curry voices Winter Soldier and Cam Clarke reprises his role as Doc Samson. The former two don't have enough lines to make a major impression but they sound and look cool. This is certainly a better appearance for Falcon in animation than his starring role in "AVENGERS: UNITED THEY STAND" in 1999. Fred Tatasciore voices both Hulk and Rulk, which keeps the mystery alive for those who don't know who he is, and probably allowed Fred some fun voicing an "evil Hulk". Oh, and one could catch that one SHIELD agent was named "O'Grady", as in Eric O'Grady, the third Ant-Man.
I can't stand Rulk - not even Jeff Parker can get me to read his series. Yet this episode manages to handle him in a way in which he's hardly the greatest nemesis the Avengers have ever battled, but he's far from their worst. It reminded me a little of "PATRIOT ACT" from "JLU" where you have an embittered general inject himself with "serum" and basically become the monster he fights against, only this episode doesn't include annoying kids and a lecture from bystanders. In the end of course it all flows into the Skrull invasion subplot, which feeds directly into the next episode.
This episode pays homage to the "Cap's Kooky Quartet" era in the 1960's AVENGERS comics, although the Maximoff Twins are replaced by Wasp and Hulk, and "Captain America" is really a Skrull imposter (and has been since the end of Season 1). General "Thunderbolt" Ross and his lacky Glenn Talbot, along with Doc Samson, have a meeting with Maria Hill and SHIELD to try to claim their sample of Hulk blood for their own Hulkbuster purposes. They refuse, but a SHIELD spy (who isn't a Skrull for once) manages to steal it anyway and inject it into a willing host, who quickly transforms into a Red Hulk. Rulk proceeds to tear up the Helicarrier, which is terrible timing for the real Hulk as this is one of the few days in which he allows Bruce Banner to "come out" and fish, much to Hawkeye's chagrin. Before long, however, it soon morphs into a conspiracy to capture Bruce Banner with "red" themed characters when the Falcon bursts into Avengers Mansion for an abduction attempt. It all comes to a climax between Rulk and the Avengers in the same section of the docks where Thor fought the Wrecking Crew during the micro-episodes (or in "THOR THE MIGHTY"), and then where the team first assembled against Graviton in the official pilot ("THE BREAK-OUT, PARTS 1-2").
Since the Leader was involved in the creation of Rulk in the comics, and because he was terrifically cast and written in "GAMMA WORLD", I half expected him to appear here. He didn't, but his replacement as mastermind of the "red" plot proved more than suitable. Naturally, the "capture Banner" plan goes to pot when Rulk succumbs to his vendetta against the Hulk and triggers a showdown, which doesn't end well for him. The shield "spy" turns out to be the Winter Soldier. His identity isn't revealed but comic fans know that's Bucky, who was accidentally brought through time from the 1940's into the present (or at least the modern era) by Cap via the Cosmic Cube in "HAIL HYDRA". It was that act which may wind up unraveling time, which was what Kang sought to prevent in "KANG DYNASTY". The rest of the episode plays out as one would expect, which isn't a complaint. Hawkeye and Wasp get some of the best lines in the episode. The Hulk's key advantage in this series isn't mindless strength, but the fact that he's made friends he can trust to have his back. The battle between the Hulks is pretty good although the animators clearly struggled to keep the burly fighters on model.
The one hiccup in the episode is confusing Red Hulk for Hulk in terms of charging Banner with his crimes. Wasp attempts to "lampshade" the color difference to Hill, and she retorts the fact that he "started out gray" according to rumor. It did remind of this awful moment in the 90's "SPIDER-MAN: TAS" when a news reporter confused Morbius for Spider-Man based on the sheer virtue of Morbius standing on a building's ledge, although it was nowhere near that absurd. The fugitive status of Banner and the Hulk was always a tricky wicket for the team, and without SHIELD's permission and Iron Man's resources there was little way to keep Banner from being apprehended. The episode also seems to pile on two mastermind schemes coming at once. While the episode's events are a "happy accident" to the Skrull-Cap in removing the Hulk from the Avengers (the only one of them left with a lot of sheer power), the "red crew" all report to Dell Rusk. While I won't give it all away for those who don't know from the comics or just by rearranging letters, Dell Rusk was voiced by Steve Blum, who voiced at least one red themed villain in this series already. It is odd seeing morally upstanding types like Doc Samson and Falcon working for him, but if they genuinely believe he's the Sec. of Defense they could be under orders to. I do like how the series manages to divide factions of characters like the real Marvel Universe does. There're Avengers, SHIELD agents, former SHIELD agents, SWORD, and U.S. Military types (in addition to independents like Iron Man and Luke Cage).
Lance Reddick voices Falcon, Jon Curry voices Winter Soldier and Cam Clarke reprises his role as Doc Samson. The former two don't have enough lines to make a major impression but they sound and look cool. This is certainly a better appearance for Falcon in animation than his starring role in "AVENGERS: UNITED THEY STAND" in 1999. Fred Tatasciore voices both Hulk and Rulk, which keeps the mystery alive for those who don't know who he is, and probably allowed Fred some fun voicing an "evil Hulk". Oh, and one could catch that one SHIELD agent was named "O'Grady", as in Eric O'Grady, the third Ant-Man.
I can't stand Rulk - not even Jeff Parker can get me to read his series. Yet this episode manages to handle him in a way in which he's hardly the greatest nemesis the Avengers have ever battled, but he's far from their worst. It reminded me a little of "PATRIOT ACT" from "JLU" where you have an embittered general inject himself with "serum" and basically become the monster he fights against, only this episode doesn't include annoying kids and a lecture from bystanders. In the end of course it all flows into the Skrull invasion subplot, which feeds directly into the next episode.
"PRISONER OF WAR"
gives us our first glimpse at the REAL Captain America since the end of Season 1. He's effectively been captured and replaced by a Skrull for two months, and is the titular POW in a Skrull space station off the side of Saturn. It also gives us a delightfully eclectic cast as well as a major glimpse into what the Skrulls are like and why they seek to invade the earth. This episode is far better than "NIGHTMARE IN RED" and is just as good as "WHO DO YOU TRUST" in managing to mix the blend of action and suspense that I think more people expect from a DC cartoon than a Marvel one.
Steve Rogers was naturally captured at the Avengers Mansion shortly after the team saved Asgard from Loki and has been stewing in a cell for months, growing a "Badass Beard" and refusing to break under torture from the Skrulls. While the Skrulls seem able to perfectly imitate a subject's form and memories via a mystical ritual, they still seek to study humans to figure out the best way to conquer and control them en masse. Unfortunately for them, they picked not only a physical super-soldier but a guy with one of the strongest wills in the Marvel Universe. Rogers literally only gives them his name, rank, and serial number. While the torture isn't shown, we see his inquisitor using a disturbing looking gauntlet and later his superiors claim Rogers has endured more than a human should without cracking. Since this is the first we've really seen of Rogers this season, there is a risk of the audience possibly wondering if he's changed or so forth, but this episode shines by playing to Rogers' strengths. It should be worth mentioning that while Nick Fury needed an unconscious Skrull to figure out if someone was one, and Dr. Doom needed a machine, Rogers is able to determine who is friend or foe just from his natural instinct. Thus, when an attempt to manipulate him with hope of rescue fails, Rogers manages to escape and systematically liberate the other POW's on the ship.
The one who gets the most focus is Viper, voiced by Vanessa Marshall. This is really the first time we've met her and the episode manages to narrow down a lot about her without wasting a lot of time. Her face is scarred through some awful means which Viper reveals inspired her to hate men like Cap. On earth they are enemies but in this situation they become allies of battle. The rest of the Skrull captives naturally include the AIM grunt captured at the start and the genuine Mockingbird (who has been replaced on earth by Queen Veranke herself) as well as SHIELD agent Clay Quartermain, King Cobra of the Serpent Squad, and Henry Gyrich of the just assembled SWORD. Rogers also manages to find the unconscious Invisible Woman, whose revelation as being replaced started the season. Some may have wondered why Bobbi Morse was in her Mockingbird guise if Viper was snatched ages earlier, and the answer is simple and was revealed earlier. In "WHO DO YOU TRUST", Nick Fury theorized that when Mockingbird and Hawkeye were captured and split up by Madam Hydra in "WIDOW'S STING", one of them was replaced by a Skrull. Fury's only error was he suspected Hawkeye, and wound up wrong on the coin toss. At any rate, Rogers manages to get the rag tag band of rivals and outright enemies to work together long enough to attempt to capture an escape pod from the Skrulls. However, the aliens are a step ahead of Rogers and have dispatched Kl'rt to intercept them - and he's been gifted with the collective powers of the Fantastic Four as Super-Skrull. He's not called that, but c'mon.
We see more of the Skrulls and their empire. This show has decided to make things simple and considers the Kree warriors of fantastic technology, and thus the Skrulls as mystical fanatics. While the Skrulls do possess fantastic technology like ray guns and space ships, they also use runes and their view screens look like something out of "WORLD OF WARCRAFT". Their impersonation of someone - at least to the degree that they literally gain personality and memory traits - appears to be a mystical ritual more than something biological. That may offend some hardcore fans but I think it works fine in this show's context to keep things basic and not be confusing. The Skrull's own legends predicted the destruction of their homeworld Skrullos and that when that time came, Earth would be their new home. Galactus has a cameo as said world-eater and thus the Skrulls are seeking to fulfill the rest of their prophecy. Poor Kl'rt has been depicted a few times in animation, often in FF shows, and most often his appearances are either average or comical (such as in "FF:WGH"). Here he is played straight as a threat, and the battle against him was thrilling because of the motley crew. People who have long craved to see Capt. America prove himself in a fight as a super-soldier without simply throwing a shield had a lot to be satisfied against. I have to admit I did roll my eyes a little when a shield-shaped hunk of debris lands near Cap to be utilized as his weapon, but I suppose both this and "A DAY UNLIKE NO OTHER" simply show him as resourceful. I mean, Hawkeye has made bow and arrow sets out of scraps MACGUYVER style dozens of times in the comics (even when he was Goliath sized). While several in the motley captive crew show their true colors, Viper at the very least was wise enough not to. I wonder if we'll see shipper fan-art arise on Deviant Art between these two.
As usual, this show seeks to combine more than one Marvel story into a cohesive whole. While we are getting an adaptation of SECRET INVASION, the series continues it's allusions to SENSATIONAL HYDRA, a story from the 90's written by Mark Waid in CAPTAIN AMERICA where a Skrull impersonated Cap. While the Skrulls lost their captives, they gained the knowledge that Capt. America's sheer charisma is enough to bend even mortal enemies to the whim of a collective goal, which they seek to capitalize with their own "Skrull Cap". All I am saying is that if this show had Rulk vs. Hulk with Fred Tatasciore voicing both, then I want to see a Cap vs. Skrull-Cap showdown with Brian Bloom, who as usual showcases his awesomeness as Cap. Casting that part was a challenge I didn't envy on any director for a cartoon, but Bloom's been flawless thus far and this episode showcased that.
At this point we are 3 episodes before the start of the Jeph Loeb takeover era, and it seems from episode titles that the SECRET INVASION and RED DAWN subplots may be tied up before then. Yost and Fine claim that the tone of the show will be consistent during the takeover and fans shouldn't notice, but after seeing - or enduring - nine episodes of "ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN", I will believe that when I see it. At any rate, this show is reaching it's prime, surpassing even the first season's lofty accomplishments. It truly is a shame that regardless of take-overs, this season will be it. The most one can do is enjoy the awesomeness while it lasts.
Steve Rogers was naturally captured at the Avengers Mansion shortly after the team saved Asgard from Loki and has been stewing in a cell for months, growing a "Badass Beard" and refusing to break under torture from the Skrulls. While the Skrulls seem able to perfectly imitate a subject's form and memories via a mystical ritual, they still seek to study humans to figure out the best way to conquer and control them en masse. Unfortunately for them, they picked not only a physical super-soldier but a guy with one of the strongest wills in the Marvel Universe. Rogers literally only gives them his name, rank, and serial number. While the torture isn't shown, we see his inquisitor using a disturbing looking gauntlet and later his superiors claim Rogers has endured more than a human should without cracking. Since this is the first we've really seen of Rogers this season, there is a risk of the audience possibly wondering if he's changed or so forth, but this episode shines by playing to Rogers' strengths. It should be worth mentioning that while Nick Fury needed an unconscious Skrull to figure out if someone was one, and Dr. Doom needed a machine, Rogers is able to determine who is friend or foe just from his natural instinct. Thus, when an attempt to manipulate him with hope of rescue fails, Rogers manages to escape and systematically liberate the other POW's on the ship.
The one who gets the most focus is Viper, voiced by Vanessa Marshall. This is really the first time we've met her and the episode manages to narrow down a lot about her without wasting a lot of time. Her face is scarred through some awful means which Viper reveals inspired her to hate men like Cap. On earth they are enemies but in this situation they become allies of battle. The rest of the Skrull captives naturally include the AIM grunt captured at the start and the genuine Mockingbird (who has been replaced on earth by Queen Veranke herself) as well as SHIELD agent Clay Quartermain, King Cobra of the Serpent Squad, and Henry Gyrich of the just assembled SWORD. Rogers also manages to find the unconscious Invisible Woman, whose revelation as being replaced started the season. Some may have wondered why Bobbi Morse was in her Mockingbird guise if Viper was snatched ages earlier, and the answer is simple and was revealed earlier. In "WHO DO YOU TRUST", Nick Fury theorized that when Mockingbird and Hawkeye were captured and split up by Madam Hydra in "WIDOW'S STING", one of them was replaced by a Skrull. Fury's only error was he suspected Hawkeye, and wound up wrong on the coin toss. At any rate, Rogers manages to get the rag tag band of rivals and outright enemies to work together long enough to attempt to capture an escape pod from the Skrulls. However, the aliens are a step ahead of Rogers and have dispatched Kl'rt to intercept them - and he's been gifted with the collective powers of the Fantastic Four as Super-Skrull. He's not called that, but c'mon.
We see more of the Skrulls and their empire. This show has decided to make things simple and considers the Kree warriors of fantastic technology, and thus the Skrulls as mystical fanatics. While the Skrulls do possess fantastic technology like ray guns and space ships, they also use runes and their view screens look like something out of "WORLD OF WARCRAFT". Their impersonation of someone - at least to the degree that they literally gain personality and memory traits - appears to be a mystical ritual more than something biological. That may offend some hardcore fans but I think it works fine in this show's context to keep things basic and not be confusing. The Skrull's own legends predicted the destruction of their homeworld Skrullos and that when that time came, Earth would be their new home. Galactus has a cameo as said world-eater and thus the Skrulls are seeking to fulfill the rest of their prophecy. Poor Kl'rt has been depicted a few times in animation, often in FF shows, and most often his appearances are either average or comical (such as in "FF:WGH"). Here he is played straight as a threat, and the battle against him was thrilling because of the motley crew. People who have long craved to see Capt. America prove himself in a fight as a super-soldier without simply throwing a shield had a lot to be satisfied against. I have to admit I did roll my eyes a little when a shield-shaped hunk of debris lands near Cap to be utilized as his weapon, but I suppose both this and "A DAY UNLIKE NO OTHER" simply show him as resourceful. I mean, Hawkeye has made bow and arrow sets out of scraps MACGUYVER style dozens of times in the comics (even when he was Goliath sized). While several in the motley captive crew show their true colors, Viper at the very least was wise enough not to. I wonder if we'll see shipper fan-art arise on Deviant Art between these two.
As usual, this show seeks to combine more than one Marvel story into a cohesive whole. While we are getting an adaptation of SECRET INVASION, the series continues it's allusions to SENSATIONAL HYDRA, a story from the 90's written by Mark Waid in CAPTAIN AMERICA where a Skrull impersonated Cap. While the Skrulls lost their captives, they gained the knowledge that Capt. America's sheer charisma is enough to bend even mortal enemies to the whim of a collective goal, which they seek to capitalize with their own "Skrull Cap". All I am saying is that if this show had Rulk vs. Hulk with Fred Tatasciore voicing both, then I want to see a Cap vs. Skrull-Cap showdown with Brian Bloom, who as usual showcases his awesomeness as Cap. Casting that part was a challenge I didn't envy on any director for a cartoon, but Bloom's been flawless thus far and this episode showcased that.
At this point we are 3 episodes before the start of the Jeph Loeb takeover era, and it seems from episode titles that the SECRET INVASION and RED DAWN subplots may be tied up before then. Yost and Fine claim that the tone of the show will be consistent during the takeover and fans shouldn't notice, but after seeing - or enduring - nine episodes of "ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN", I will believe that when I see it. At any rate, this show is reaching it's prime, surpassing even the first season's lofty accomplishments. It truly is a shame that regardless of take-overs, this season will be it. The most one can do is enjoy the awesomeness while it lasts.
Great episodes, although the latter was better than the former.
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get with the program and do some catch-up, Dread... we're WAY ahead o' ya... pokey... t:
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I still need to find episode ten myself. Which I plan to do a little later.
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Well thankfully found a copy on yt. Pretty solid episode and great seeing some folks who were locked up and learn more on skrulls.
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I like the new vest, not totally sold on the coat, but the vest looks good.
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Did you miss my post earlier about not sharing links to pirated copies of the episodes? That includes openly inviting people to ask you about where to get said pirated copies of the episodes. Do it again and you'll be on a probationary ban.
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Another great episode, I´m really looking forward to seeing how the Skrull invasion play's out. I´m hoping that Dr. Doom turns out to be the hero and saves the day, it would just be awesome to see the heroes reaction to a super villain saving them all 
It's not a pirated copy. Its from my native Australia. Our Piracy laws work differently out here.
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Cap is ready for everything!
Great episodes indeed, pitty other Marvel series are nowhere near as good.
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Corp it is alright to say we saw said episodes via what ever means right, as long as we don't post links to them?
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Somebody on the CBR forums said 4 new episodes aired today and they were watching them:
Infiltration
Secret Invasion
Along Came a Spider
Behold... The Vision
Can anybody else confirm this/ watched them?
Infiltration
Secret Invasion
Along Came a Spider
Behold... The Vision
Can anybody else confirm this/ watched them?
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