Bale Faces Crowe in 3:10 to Yuma

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I didn't find anything cheesy about Yuma, The Proposition had stunning cinematography but heartless and unpleasant characters so by the half way point i no longer cared about any of them.

The director of The proposition is directing the adaption of Cormac McCarthy's The Road, i'll be interested to see what he does with that great writers work.
 
Nothing cheesy? How about the completely ridiculous ending? Or Ben Foster's over-the-top and unconvincingly evil portrayal? Or how about Wade whistling for his horse like Roy f-ing Rogers?

It seems to me that some people will 'go to Bat' for anything Bale-related. Well, I agree that overall he makes some damned good choices and is very interesting to watch. But this movie is plodding, formulaic and in the end, ludicrous.

EDIT: And one other thing regarding The Proposition: how can you say that Ray Winstone's Captain Stanley was heartless?? He's wrestling with his conscience for the entire length of the film. The same could be said for Charlie; a man who has to kill one brother to save another. I think we watched two different movies...
 
Nothing cheesy? How about the completely ridiculous ending? Or Ben Foster's over-the-top and unconvincingly evil portrayal? Or how about Wade whistling for his horse like Roy f-ing Rogers?

It seems to me that some people will 'go to Bat' for anything Bale-related. Well, I agree that overall he makes some damned good choices and is very interesting to watch. But this movie is plodding, formulaic and in the end, ludicrous.


I didn't find anything ridiculous about the ending and whistling for his horse was typical of the Wade character, he was always gonna break away but he gained a respect for Dan throughout the movie. I thought Foster was awesome.

I am not defending Bale i simply enjoyed the movie a lot and for you to suggest it's some ******ed "ZOMG Bale is t3h Batman i must protect him" is insulting.

EDIT: And one other thing regarding The Proposition: how can you say that Ray Winstone's Captain Stanley was heartless?? He's wrestling with his conscience for the entire length of the film. The same could be said for Charlie; a man who has to kill one brother to save another. I think we watched two different movies...

He came across as a selfish man who put his wife in danger by making an insane deal, and Charlie was almost as much of a scumbag as his brothers. The fact is i wanted them all to die byt the end expect Emily Watson
 
I didn't find anything ridiculous about the ending and whistling for his horse was typical of the Wade character, he was always gonna break away but he gained a respect for Dan throughout the movie. I thought Foster was awesome.

I am not defending Bale i simply enjoyed the movie a lot and for you to suggest it's some ******ed "ZOMG Bale is t3h Batman i must protect him" is insulting.
You're right - that was uncalled for and I apologize.

Bottom line: I watched 3:10 and felt that I didn't much care to want to see it again. But every time I'm skimming channels and happen across The Proposition, I'm glued. So, I guess we simply have different tastes. C'est la vie. :yay:
 
You're right - that was uncalled for and I apologize.

Bottom line: I watched 3:10 and felt that I didn't much care to want to see it again. But every time I'm skimming channels and happen across The Proposition, I'm glued. So, I guess we simply have different tastes. C'est la vie. :yay:

All good man. :up: When someone puts forth their passion for a movie such as you did, it always makes me want to take another look which i will do as i have the proposition.
 
I thought both The Proposition and Yuma were awesome. :up:
 
He came across as a selfish man who put his wife in danger by making an insane deal, and Charlie was almost as much of a scumbag as his brothers. The fact is i wanted them all to die byt the end expect Emily Watson
I thought the whole dynamic with Stanley was really interesting b/c he knew he was taking such a monstrous risk given Arthur's reputation for being ruthless. Torn between protecting his wife, trying to please that effete assh#le Fletcher, and his own pride, the deal made him physically ill from the start (remember all those little packets of mystery powder he kept swallowing?).

And yes, Charlie was a total scumbag but at the start of the film he had already distanced himself from Arthur b/c he had become disgusted with the things they had perpetrated and also to protect Mikey. He was a criminal and murderer but he wasn't totally w/o morality like Arthur or Sam, who were complete sociopaths. You could say much the same for Eastwood's William Munny and Crowe's Ben Wade (re: Charlie)...
 
Fantastic film. I was completely blown away. I am very late on seeing this, how I wish I would have seen it on the big screen. So well done it’s ridiculous.

Amazing characters, one of the best villains, and oddly heart warming. This film is a wonder.

Ben Foster, I didn’t even recognize him at first, really put on an outstanding performance. Christian Bale was flawless as always, but what did the trick for me was Crowe. My god, what a character. He’s a brutal, rotten man, yet in the end, he connected with Bale’s character. For such a violent film, I was surprised by how good I felt at the end. The son respecting the father, the man of character changing the outlaw’s views….I could go on forever.

This film is a classic already in my opinion. Flawless. The score was breathtaking too. I love this movie.

10/10
 
What a joke! More than a year after it opened in the United States 3:10 To Yuma will finally get a modest theatrical release tomorrow September 18th over here.

The dvd rental is supposed to drop in October. I think i'll wait for that.:o
 
i remember i saw posters and trailers for this...

me and my mate couldn't go the first week it was on so we went the 2nd week and it was gone! had to wait until the dvd, shame i didn't see it at the cinema but man i loves me a western and this is one of the best in recent times:up:
 
What a joke! More than a year after it opened in the United States 3:10 To Yuma will finally get a modest theatrical release tomorrow September 18th over here.

The dvd rental is supposed to drop in October. I think i'll wait for that.:o


Whahaha. Insane isn't it? I already saw it on ****ing bootleg, which is was like breaking my one rule. But I wasn't gonna wait. :p
 
^^It's just by chance that i read about it while flipping through the review section in the newspaper.Apparently it's taken this long because they couldn't get a distributor.:whatever:
 
Well, I loved 3:10 to Yuma and hated The Proposition. I guess that makes me a cheeseball Hollywood-loving ****e. Oh well. I guess I'll have to live with that.

Why did I hate the Proposition? I shouldn't have. I certainly didn't want to. I remember seeing the trailer and thought the concept was brilliant for a Western. And a Western set in Australia (which technically makes NOT a Western, of course) is always a cool concept (loved Quigley Down Under). And with top talents like Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, David Wenham and Emily Watson, I seemed like it couldn't go wrong.

And yet, somehow, it did. At least for me. Westerns seem to have a problem in modern cinema. Anytime they are ENTERTAINING, people automatically write them off as flashy, stylistic garbage. However, when they are a long, drawn-out method of torture that could bore an accountant to tears, critics praise them like they're the greatest pile of cow manure to hit the big screen in a decade. And if you don't like it, well... you just must not be sophisticated enough to "get" it.

Or maybe you can just recognize a bad movie when you see one. While I wouldn't necessarily call The Proposition "bad," I can't like it because all I saw was wasted potential. A great concept for a story but not a clue how to tell it. A morally conflicted lawman holds the "good" brother hostage so that the "kind-of good, kind-of bad" brother will go kill the "evil-as-satan" brother. Interesting concept? Check. Good actors to pull off the roles? Check. But the moment John Hurt shows up and begins overacting to the point where I thought he was going to turn to the cameraman and tell him to use the scene for his oscar clip, I could tell something was wrong. It's that same feeling I get whenever I see a horror movie that looks like it's going to be something mind-blowing in the previews but in the back of my mind, I know that it probably has some hack script that won't even come close to pulling off what it intends to. This was the problem with The Proposition. I went into it hoping to see a great Western, but all I got was a depressing bore, chock full of characters that I couldn't give two sh**ts about. David Wenham probably gives the best performance in the film because I think he at least was the only character who was SUPPOSED to be completely unlikeable, and he was. I think you're supposed to feel some sort of sympathy or empathy for the rest of the characters, but I personally couldn't wait for them to do the world a favor and just shoot each other. Even Ray Winstone's performance, while good, didn't impress me all that much.

In the end, if you loved The Proposition, hey, good for you. Glad you could find something in there that I didn't. But I guess I'm just irritated that we only get one traditional Western every three or four years anymore because it's considered a "dead" genre now, and when we do, the film gets accused of pandering to typical Hollywood ideals. If anything, it's actually going AGAINST the grain because it's attempting to revive a genre that film audiences have ditched for superhero films and sci-fi fantasy epics.
 
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