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I think we can draw certain conclusions about the nature of Batman 3.
The overall theme of TDK was easily summed up by the line, "the night is darkest just before the dawn. I promise you, the dawn is coming." Or, as Alfred said, "things were always going to get worse before they got better."
Chris Nolan even said repeatedly in interviews prior to the film's release that this was the theme of TDK.
So what, do you think, would Batman 3 be about? We're dealing with a trilogy of sorts. TDK is the ESB chapter, where everything goes to hell. The next film would be time to redeem Batman.
That's not to say that it would have to be lighter - noooo, no no no. But it would have to offer a resolution to the problems set up in TDK.
To this end, I firmly believe that a character like Selina or Talia is required. Not just because Bruce needs a love interest (he doesn't NEED one, per se) but because the love of a woman can redeem a tortured man, and he will need a tough woman who can stand toe-to-toe with Batman. Someone who would understand his dual life. Someone who might give him hope that he can have both, his life as Batman, and a normal life with a woman.
Naturally I think Selina is perfect for this because she's not exactly a villain, and not exactly a hero. She's like an inverted Batman, she completes him in a sense but they can also never be together. It brings a balance to that side of Bruce.
But you know, I had this conversation with Norm the other night and he pointed out to me that these films have always had more than one or two villains. Begins had Scarecrow and Ra's, but also Zsasz, Falcone, Earle, Flass... TDK had a bunch as well.
So it's fair to say that Batman 3 can use a handful of those other villains that Goyer refrenced, in a limited capacity. But we also know that Nolan won't use just any of them.
Norm and I agreed that with Selina in an ambiguous hero/villain/something role, there's room for someone like Riddler to take the major spot (Riddler done right - wouldn't that be cool?) and give Cobblepot a smaller role like Maroni - maybe as the self-made man who tries to take over organized crime in the city. It would be fitting that one of the more "freakish" villains would try to take over a role normally held by more normal bad guys.
I also think that someone like Deadshot or even Killer Croc could have a good role as a hitman hired either by Cobblepot to get someone out of his way, or by Edward Nashton to play a minor role in a complex crime meant to confound the Darknight Detective.
Personally I like Croc because he was born with a skin condition that gives him zero opportunity for a normal life. He'd have led such a hard life having to rob and steal just to keep food in his belly that when a bad guy offers him a fat stack if he'll scrag somebody, Croc would leap at the opportunity and become, well, a Killer Croc. This is pretty much the only way to use a character like him, who is all muscle and no brains, but if you have a place for hired muscle on the side of a freak-friendly high-roller criminal, why not use Croc?
The overall theme of TDK was easily summed up by the line, "the night is darkest just before the dawn. I promise you, the dawn is coming." Or, as Alfred said, "things were always going to get worse before they got better."
Chris Nolan even said repeatedly in interviews prior to the film's release that this was the theme of TDK.
So what, do you think, would Batman 3 be about? We're dealing with a trilogy of sorts. TDK is the ESB chapter, where everything goes to hell. The next film would be time to redeem Batman.
That's not to say that it would have to be lighter - noooo, no no no. But it would have to offer a resolution to the problems set up in TDK.
To this end, I firmly believe that a character like Selina or Talia is required. Not just because Bruce needs a love interest (he doesn't NEED one, per se) but because the love of a woman can redeem a tortured man, and he will need a tough woman who can stand toe-to-toe with Batman. Someone who would understand his dual life. Someone who might give him hope that he can have both, his life as Batman, and a normal life with a woman.
Naturally I think Selina is perfect for this because she's not exactly a villain, and not exactly a hero. She's like an inverted Batman, she completes him in a sense but they can also never be together. It brings a balance to that side of Bruce.
But you know, I had this conversation with Norm the other night and he pointed out to me that these films have always had more than one or two villains. Begins had Scarecrow and Ra's, but also Zsasz, Falcone, Earle, Flass... TDK had a bunch as well.
So it's fair to say that Batman 3 can use a handful of those other villains that Goyer refrenced, in a limited capacity. But we also know that Nolan won't use just any of them.
Norm and I agreed that with Selina in an ambiguous hero/villain/something role, there's room for someone like Riddler to take the major spot (Riddler done right - wouldn't that be cool?) and give Cobblepot a smaller role like Maroni - maybe as the self-made man who tries to take over organized crime in the city. It would be fitting that one of the more "freakish" villains would try to take over a role normally held by more normal bad guys.
I also think that someone like Deadshot or even Killer Croc could have a good role as a hitman hired either by Cobblepot to get someone out of his way, or by Edward Nashton to play a minor role in a complex crime meant to confound the Darknight Detective.
Personally I like Croc because he was born with a skin condition that gives him zero opportunity for a normal life. He'd have led such a hard life having to rob and steal just to keep food in his belly that when a bad guy offers him a fat stack if he'll scrag somebody, Croc would leap at the opportunity and become, well, a Killer Croc. This is pretty much the only way to use a character like him, who is all muscle and no brains, but if you have a place for hired muscle on the side of a freak-friendly high-roller criminal, why not use Croc?
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