The Dark Knight Rises Batman 3 to the i(MAX)!!!

[Anita18]

Unless they've figured out a way to insulate the camera, I highly doubt this. At a TDK sound panel, we were shown live footage from the prologue, and the IMAX camera was just flapping away. If you've ever been to a bank and witnessed the teller use the bill counting machine, it sounds like that. It's super-obnoxious and it's loud.

The sound guys managed to extract Fichtner's lines and Ledger's lines, but those were the only things recorded on set that made it to the final cut. Otherwise it's was all recorded and mixed in post.

For action and aerial scenes, there's nothing better than IMAX. But for any scenes that require dialogue, it'll be a pain in the butt to shoot and mix in post. I don't see it happening.

Plus IMAX film is 4x more expensive than 35mm.

 

[KalMart]

They should shoot in 70mm.

 

[Timstuff]

One of the things that would be particularly interesting about Batman 3 being in Imax, is that it would be showcasing the very peak of what traditional celluloid can do, right around the same time that James Cameron is pulling the tarp off of Avatar, which is demonstrating some of the promises of digital (like his fancy new digital 3D cameras that prevent eye-strain). They're two wildly different technologies at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they're also capable of delivering to us cinematic experiences that 20 years ago people could only dream of. It would be awesome if on one end of the spectrum we have Avatar, which gives us an amazing experience using all digital technology and 3D, and on the other end we've got Batman 3, which delivers an epic-scale image using a more traditional film cell (which happens to be extremely large).

 

[Mr. Earle]

Why would they shot the whole film in IMAX? It would cost millions! Not to mention that those huge cameras are noisy and they cant be used in many scenes because of that. Was the interrogation scene shot in IMAX for example (i really dont know)? If they managed to shoot a dialogue in IMAX then maybe i am wrong.

But anyway, why would i want to see Nolan's batfilm in IMAX? To see his ridiculously bad fight scenes? His mediocre action scenes? Yeah he flipped the truck in real life and yeah the tumbler chase scene was great, but besides that was there any good action in the movie? Hardly. So i'd rather they had flipped the truck in CGI and spent the money on improving the spectacle. At least in CGI there wouldnt be the compressed air of the air cannon under the truck.

Nolan's reluctance on using CGI sounds like sour grapes or pseudo-elitism. He either thinks he cant do it convincingly so he mocks it, or he thinks that we are that stupid that will think he is awesome for doing it the harder way. That's probably why he busted our balls about flipping the truck. Its not like he sank a whole ship to shoot the Titanic. Jesus.

Or would he use IMAX because he wants us to get a better taste of his atmospheric (sarcasm) Gotham? A plane ticket to Chicago would do just fine!

**** all that. ROTF was dumb as a sack of potatoes but at least it was worth the IMAX. TDK was an awesome film but do i really need to see it on the super big screen because its a good film? Not really. The only scene that was worth the IMAX imho was the Hong Kong scene. Flying from one skyscraper to the other and then skyhooking away.

End of rage.

 

[KalMart]

Unless they've figured out a way to insulate the camera, I highly doubt this. At a TDK sound panel, we were shown live footage from the prologue, and the IMAX camera was just flapping away. If you've ever been to a bank and witnessed the teller use the bill counting machine, it sounds like that. It's super-obnoxious and it's loud.

The sound guys managed to extract Fichtner's lines and Ledger's lines, but those were the only things recorded on set that made it to the final cut. Otherwise it's was all recorded and mixed in post.

For action and aerial scenes, there's nothing better than IMAX. But for any scenes that require dialogue, it'll be a pain in the butt to shoot and mix in post. I don't see it happening.

Plus IMAX film is 4x more expensive than 35mm.

And you only get about 2-1/2 minutes for each roll of film. It'd be way more effort than it's worth.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

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It seems that just over or under 3/4 of #thedarkknightrises is being shot in stunning #IMAX, almost side 35mm from one of my sources...

..which is an audio Nightmare! as the #Imax camera sounds like a lawn mower! so sadly alot of ADR and more incredible sound design is needed

 

[RedSkull]

So that's good news for Bane's voice then isn't it? More ADR.

 

[Manix]

I wonder why Nolan simply doesn't shoot in 70mm/5 perf format for the other scenes? That would be awesome, Imax and 70mm. No DMR blow-up needed.

 

[Jokers_Wild]

Amazing...what was the percentage in TDK? 1/4?

At Heinz Field, it seemed like everything shot was IMAX.

 

[Avengers-Report]

I'd say maybe 20 minutes of TDK was filmed in IMAX. From what I can remember.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

I wonder why Nolan simply doesn't shoot in 70mm/5 perf format for the other scenes? That would be awesome, Imax and 70mm. No DMR blow-up needed.

Because it's cheaper to shoot them in 35 mm than in a 70 mm.

 

[KalMart]

Because it's cheaper to shoot them in 35 mm than in a 70 mm.

And a wider array of lenses.

 

[Batman137]

Id love for it to be in all IMAX. LOVE IT. I was blown away by the photography. Plus Id like to see it all in IMAX because of the cut from normal 35mm to IMAX got kind of annoying.

 

[KalMart]

Id love for it to be in all IMAX. LOVE IT. I was blown away by the photography. Plus Id like to see it all in IMAX because of the cut from normal 35mm to IMAX got kind of annoying.

It won't be all in IMAX...but it sounds like considerably more of it will be shot in IMAX than in TDK.

 

[xwhysoseriousx]

it seems that every set picture i've seen with cameras in it, i've seen IMAX in big letters on the side. this brings me joy.

 

[KalMart]

it seems that every set picture i've seen with cameras in it, i've seen IMAX in big letters on the side. this brings me joy.

Well then....let me apologize in advance...

 

[xwhysoseriousx]

YOU'RE RUINING MY DREAMS, SIR.

 

[KalMart]

YOU'RE RUINING MY DREAMS, SIR.

Don't worry...35 still looks glorious and crisp these days...especially on screens and projection systems that aren't true IMAX.

 

[Russell Nash]

I don't understand why when this comes out on blu-ray, the IMAX scenes will be cropped from 1.44:1 to 1.78:1 when the 35MM scenes are in 2.35:1. The movie should have a consistent aspect ratio to itself. They should crop the 1.44:1 image to 2.35:1 to make it match the rest of the film. They do exactly this when the movie is shown in a non-IMAX theater. TDK, Transformers ROTF and Tron Legacy also do this type of selective cropping on blu-rays.

 

[Manix]

I don't understand why when this comes out on blu-ray, the IMAX scenes will be cropped from 1.44:1 to 1.78:1 when the 35MM scenes are in 2.35:1. The movie should have a consistent aspect ratio to itself. They should crop the 1.44:1 image to 2.35:1 to make it match the rest of the film. They do exactly this when the movie is shown in a non-IMAX theater. TDK, Transformers ROTF and Tron Legacy also do this type of selective cropping on blu-rays.

Don't quote me on this one, but the scenes shot in Imax have the aspect ratio of 1:44:1 on blu-ray because they look good sharper/crisper that way rather then if it was cropped to 2:35:1.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

So that's good news for Bane's voice then isn't it? More ADR.

They are not gonna change the approach to the voice.

 

[Kansiov]

I doubt it would be fully on IMAX. If I remembered correctly, there was an article sometime back about them filming the scenes in the 35mm because of the amount of noise the IMAX cameras made; thus it's likely conversation heavy scenes will not be filmed on IMAX.

 

[Russell Nash]

Don't quote me on this one, but the scenes shot in Imax have the aspect ratio of 1:44:1 on blu-ray because they look good sharper/crisper that way rather then if it was cropped to 2:35:1.

The native aspect ratio for 70 mm IMAX film stock is 1.44:1. The film is cropped from it's original aspect ratio to fit a 16x9 HDTV set (1.78:1). When watching TDK on Blu-ray, the aspect ratio shifts from 1.78:1 (16x9) to 2.35:1.

When TDK was shown in standard theaters, the aspect ratio remained at a constant 2.35:1. I would think that since you're cropping the image anyway for 1.78:1, it would be more advantageous to have it match the 35 mm print of 2.35:1. Having changing aspect ratios dramatically takes the viewer out of the experience.

If Nolan really wanted to have the original aspect ratios of both the 70 mm IMAX and 35 mm film stocks, he should have the image pillarboxed (reverse letterbox) to fit traditional 16x9 (1.78:1) HDTV sets. The result would be no lost image from cropping.

 

[Anita18]

I'd say maybe 20 minutes of TDK was filmed in IMAX. From what I can remember.

28 minutes.

The native aspect ratio for 70 mm IMAX film stock is 1.44:1. The film is cropped from it's original aspect ratio to fit a 16x9 HDTV set (1.78:1). When watching TDK on Blu-ray, the aspect ratio shifts from 1.78:1 (16x9) to 2.35:1.

When TDK was shown in standard theaters, the aspect ratio remained at a constant 2.35:1. I would think that since you're cropping the image anyway for 1.78:1, it would be more advantageous to have it match the 35 mm print of 2.35:1. Having changing aspect ratios dramatically takes the viewer out of the experience.

If Nolan really wanted to have the original aspect ratios of both the 70 mm IMAX and 35 mm film stocks, he should have the image pillarboxed (reverse letterbox) to fit traditional 16x9 (1.78:1) HDTV sets. The result would be no lost image from cropping.

The point of using IMAX is to fill the screen, and they took this approach with the Blu-ray, which is why it's cropped slightly.

I actually liked the IMAX aspect ratio changes. It was literally, when the movie got epic, the actual image would expand accordingly. I barely noticed when it shifted back and forth.

 

[Russell Nash]

Some illustration to help (ignore the size, look at dimensions)...

70 mm IMAX (1.44:1)


70 mm IMAX cropped to 16x9 (1.78:1)


35 mm (2.35:1)


What the IMAX scenes should look like on a 16x9 screen