The Dark Knight Batman a lunatic?

[Bat-Gasm]

I'm sorry if this has been a thread before. On that note, this has been bothering me for a few days now, and I have no one I can even debate with it about.

Is it just me, or was Batman kinda' out of control in TDK?

I understand the movie, and themes and all that jazz, but this cat kinda went over the top yeah?

He has one rule right? He doesn't kill. Okay. Got it.

When he drives the bat-mobile into the front of that truck during the chase scene, and the entire cab is crushed. That probably killed the drivers right?

When he is blowing cars out of his way on the bat-bike, good thing he didn't hit the one with the damn kids in it yeah?!

I mean I'm seriously here looking to see if anyone else feels this way.

 

[SuperFerret]

Batman has always had some sociopathic tendencies.

 

[Caped Crusader]

Its a movie.

 

[animexcel]

"Damn good television."

 

[Bat-Gasm]

It's a just a movie?

Seriously?


No no no, you're one funny little bastard though I'll give ya that.



All I'm sayin' is, it was such a big deal he "didn't break his one rule," yet he's squashin' truck cabs , and those kids had a very good chance of being blown up.

 

[SuperFerret]

So? Truck drivers and kids deserve to die more than psychotic clowns.

 

[Motown Marvel]

not secluding the character to TDK....but batman in general is just as crazy as the joker.

 

[Caped Crusader]

It's a just a movie?

Seriously?


No no no, you're one funny little bastard though I'll give ya that.



All I'm sayin' is, it was such a big deal he "didn't break his one rule," yet he's squashin' truck cabs , and those kids had a very good chance of being blown up.

 

[mrbrownie]

I'm sorry if this has been a thread before. On that note, this has been bothering me for a few days now, and I have no one I can even debate with it about.

Is it just me, or was Batman kinda' out of control in TDK?

I understand the movie, and themes and all that jazz, but this cat kinda went over the top yeah?

He has one rule right? He doesn't kill. Okay. Got it.

When he drives the bat-mobile into the front of that truck during the chase scene, and the entire cab is crushed. That probably killed the drivers right?

When he is blowing cars out of his way on the bat-bike, good thing he didn't hit the one with the damn kids in it yeah?!

I mean I'm seriously here looking to see if anyone else feels this way.

Meh, the worst that it could've happened was that he blew up a horny couple who were getting at it in the parking lot, or rip off some idiots arm if he had it hanging outside his car. No biggies.

 

[RKO]

Welcome to Batman.

He's not your typical superhero, sometimes he goes over the edge. That is why we love him.

 

[namtaB]

http://comicfacts.blogspot.com/2005/03/is-batman-nuts.html

An Excerpt:

"Is Batman Nuts?

This question gets asked pretty frequently these days. Or, an answer in the affirmative is often taken for granted. Lots of fans and even some pros characterize Batman as being crazy. However, the rationale given for this judgment has often had little to do with the realities of mental illness. The obvious “He dresses as a bat” doesn’t really apply, unless we want to argue that all comic characters are nuts, and that frankly doesn’t get us anywhere. “He’s obsessively focused on his mission.” Well, yeah, but one can say the same about a lot of professional athletes (or fans), and so long as this “obsession” doesn’t really cause significant impairment, it doesn’t rise to the level of a psychiatric disorder. “He shuts himself off from having close relationships from other people to focus on his mission.” Well, maybe. But missionaries do that, too, and we don’t necessarily consider them nuts. Or, people note – with increasing frequency – “Batman behaves like a dick. He manipulates and emotionally abuses those closest to him.” This does start to suggest mental illness, but it doesn’t really capture the whole of what is portrayed with Batman."

 

[LexCorp]

A better question to ask is how do the characters see themselves?

The Joker (in TDK) denies that he is crazy he just likes disorder.
"No I'm not"

His words after someone calls him crazy.

Batman too would argue that he is not crazy I am sure.

 

[Mr. Earle]

not secluding the character to TDK....but batman in general is just as crazy as the joker.

You best be joking... Batman isnt crazy. Is Dr House crazy? I think not.

As for the explosions OP, its a movie. You are meant to suspend your disbelief enough to accept that he knew what he was doing. If you cant do that, then stop watching comic book movies. They will confuse you.

 

[LexCorp]

You best be joking... Batman isnt crazy. Is Dr House crazy? I think not.

As for the explosions OP, its a movie. You are meant to suspend your disbelief enough to accept that he knew what he was doing. If you cant do that, then stop watching comic book movies. They will confuse you.

Hmm but the Joker makes the same kind of large explosion so on a collateral damage point of view sometimes Bats is the same as the Joker.

Does that mean crazy.

 

[nathaniel]

In TDK? not at all he is a driven guy and thats it the comics is a complete different kettle of fish though there is a fin line between who he is bruce wayne or batman.

 

[JStorm]

You best be joking... Batman isnt crazy. Is Dr House crazy? I think not.

As for the explosions OP, its a movie. You are meant to suspend your disbelief enough to accept that he knew what he was doing. If you cant do that, then stop watching comic book movies. They will confuse you.

The man dresses up like a Bat, eludes the law, believes his cause is greater than most, if not all, and has a split personality.

The man dresses up like a clown, breaks the law, believes his cause is greater than most, if not all, and has multiple-personalities.

 

[Bats]

People were complaining about the same thing in BB when he was "pancaking cop cars on the evening news". I really believe that in BB, he knew he wouldn't kill them unless the cops didn't duck. And who wouldn't duck if they saw the Tumbler coming toward them? Same thing with the garbage truck.

As for the Bat-Pod blowing up the cars, maybe he had something in it that read if there were people in them?

That's all I got.

 

[Ekricket]

The man dresses up like a Bat, eludes the law, believes his cause is greater than most, if not all, and has a split personality.

The man dresses up like a clown, breaks the law, believes his cause is greater than most, if not all, and has multiple-personalities.

I think that if you submitted the characteristics and actions of both Joker and Batman to independent psychologists who did not know them, only their cases, they would both be judged certifiably crazy. The only differences between the two are:

Joker kills everyone, Batman kills no one
Joker steals stuff, Batman doesn't - or unless you call hiding assets from the parent company and probably avoiding paying taxes on them and such stealing, maybe he does.

Other than that - crazy, surely gone fishing, crazy,......

 

[C. Lee]

No no no, you're one funny little bastard though I'll give ya that.

Learn to discuss and debate without the name calling.

 

[Milu]

"A man who dresses like a bat, clearly has issues."

 

[Mr. Earle]

The man dresses up like a Bat, eludes the law, believes his cause is greater than most, if not all, and has a split personality.

The man dresses up like a clown, breaks the law, believes his cause is greater than most, if not all, and has multiple-personalities.

Batman is a comic book character. You are applying real life psychology on him. He lives in a world full of people dressed in silly costumes who fight or commit crime. Call batman a lunatic based on his vigilantism and his mask, and you have to call every comics character too. Rorsharch is crazy, but can you call Nite Owl crazy? No you cant.

In Batman's world its totally normal to be a vigilante and even in our world, i wouldnt consider it crazy. People often take the law into their own hands when they face extreme situations. Gotham city is by itself a hellhole and Bruce just wants to help people sidestepping the law. As for dressing like a bat, there is a clear reason behind it and that is to scare people and win the fight before it even begins.

Now perhaps after years of fighting crime alone every night you wont be as sane as when you started, but you didnt use this arguement. Batman is supposed to be a sane although obsessed man. To me he is like House. ls House as crazy as the joker? He isnt completely normal, he is just suffering from depression and obsession but he isnt a lunatic.

Also, especially after DKR brought back the gritty feel, writters have pushed the limits of grimdark and batman's sanity to infinity. From a genius detective, they have turned him into a psychopath who is one step away from snearing his feces. Forgive me if i dont want to accept this as a good batman characterisation. I hope the comics writers get back to writing good stories about him without using this gimmick.

 

[Grommers]

"A man who dresses like a bat, clearly has issues."

" Not in my diagnosis! "

 

[Travesty]

People were complaining about the same thing in BB when he was "pancaking cop cars on the evening news". I really believe that in BB, he knew he wouldn't kill them unless the cops didn't duck. And who wouldn't duck if they saw the Tumbler coming toward them? Same thing with the garbage truck.

As for the Bat-Pod blowing up the cars, maybe he had something in it that read if there were people in them?

That's all I got.

Hehe, I don't know why people try to defend it. Batman kills:Bottom line.

I've said it on other threads, but in BB, I always thought it was funny that Bruce didn't want to chop of the prisoners head, yet, he didn't mind blowing up the entire building, killing everybody in it except for him an Ras.

 

[JStorm]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Better.




My previous post was meant for jest. Really, Mr. Earle, catch the hype memo.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Better.




My previous post was meant for jest. Really, Mr. Earle, catch the hype memo.

I am sorry if i cant read your humour over the internet. Seriously man, you and me, we re done professionally!