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Batman:Dead End

The Joker was terrible. Everyone knows it was ***** from Growing Pains, right?
 
I thought the short was terrible. Especially considering the attention it got when it came out, as if it were some kind of savior. The dialogue, atrocious. The looks of the characters themselves, ridiculous. The bat-suit, while at the time being praised, is laugh worthy at best. The Joker? Throw him in the luagh worthy basket as well. The whole thing to me was just ... YUCK.
 
^ You kind of have to accept that it's not a Batman movie. It's not even a fan film. It's just a cheap reel thrown together to showcase that guy's special effects talents. Like, it took a lot of talent to do that Joker. Woefully misguided talent, but talent nonetheless. But yeah, as an actual film it sucks.
 
Back to Dead End. Didn't like Alien and Pred, nor Joker, but the design of the short film was great and I loved Batman(all except the gauntlets and eyes)
 


Youre right , all the film was great, and Collora try to release too much ideas in short time, and nothing is perfect...

Im a Bat fan all my life, and when i see DEAD END, was the most dreamed and perfect
Batman ever.....it its the balls of keaton, kilmer and a long etcetera ....

I really think this: Without DEAD END , we have no Batman begins or Darknight....


 
The movie... well, it's not good. Terrible dialogue. But the visual side is quite cool. Add more budget and a better joker and more fitting, taller actor and that's the way a Batman movie should look. Someday, someday, I pray, we get a true Batman movie.
 
I think we have gotten plenty of "true Batman" movies ... in fact, all of them. Even the hated Forever and Batman and Robin are true Batman movies. They allign w/ that over adventerous, yet blundering 50s and 60s era of Batman. The looks of all the movies have been "true Batman" movies as well. In virtually every sense. What makes the look of Dead End more "true to Batman" in your opinion? Beyond the more comic book like Batman costume, which IMO isn't even as intimidating or mythic as the nipple clad Shumacher costumes, the look of the city and setting is a combo of the stylistic route of B89 and Returns, melded with the realistic grit and decay of Batman Begins.
 
I think we have gotten plenty of "true Batman" movies ... in fact, all of them. Even the hated Forever and Batman and Robin are true Batman movies. They allign w/ that over adventerous, yet blundering 50s and 60s era of Batman. The looks of all the movies have been "true Batman" movies as well. In virtually every sense. What makes the look of Dead End more "true to Batman" in your opinion? Beyond the more comic book like Batman costume, which IMO isn't even as intimidating or mythic as the nipple clad Shumacher costumes, the look of the city and setting is a combo of the stylistic route of B89 and Returns, melded with the realistic grit and decay of Batman Begins.

It feels more like Batman.
 
It does, I mean it looks like something from the comics especially when Bats rises up from the ground and the cape goes up too. From a visual stand point I thought it was pretty good.

I do not like the guy who played Batman, but yes, this felt really like the guy whose adventures I've read for almost two decades coming to life and not some "interpretation" or "vision" from some moviemaker :up:
 
^yeah one day we will get a more comic accuraate bats but the films we hae now are pretty good.
 
I have to admit, that scene where Batman rises from the puddle in that dingy Gotham Alley is outstanding. It was really was the high point of that short film. With that said, that movie was no more or less "Batman" than any of the major motion pictures. At least w/ the movies things were well acted, well thought out, yet still captured the essence of the material. Simply having a comic accurate bat-suit doesn't make the mediocre short film more valid than any of the movies. In fact, I thought that costume was kind of emberassing, and I really couldn't take that thing seriously on the big screen. I'd be shaking my head and turning red. I couldn't picture that guy from Dead End in the spandex taking on the Joker of TDK in the gritty heightened reality of Nolan's Batman universe. He'd get slaughtered. The major motion pics captured the essence of things, which is what good adaptations are supposed to do. I mean that Joker looked like how he does in the comics, but it was hardly threatning. I respect your opinion, but your reasoning isn't very sound. Different artists put their interp on the character when they script Batman stories for the comics. Re-interp is was makes the concept great. See different angles you can view the character and mythos. Its a beautiful thing. B89 and Begins both undoubtedly nailed a multitude of the essentials of what makes a"true Batman story."
 
You can't complain about the acting in a short reel by an indie film-maker who probably got both of those guys to work for free. Of course The Joker probably sucked, the only reason he would agree to do Dead End is that he couldn't get real work as an actor. If Collera had a Studio backing he could make a film that'd blow everyone away.
 
I didn't realize this, but the guy who played Superman in the World's Finest trailer is in the new American Gladiators.
 
I read that the other day. I think his name's Mike O'Hearn.
 
...and whats even funnier, is the guy who play BATMAN in Patient J and Bane/Batman in Batman Legends is on American Gladiators too! TOA!
 
The realistic costume was my favorite part of Dead End. I'm so tired of the Batman rubber suits from the movies. It's just not what I've grown up seeing in Batman comics. Bats is supposed to be able to jump around, and those rubber suits weigh like 50 pounds or more. It's a wonder he can even move. He might as well be known as Rubber Man.
 

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