Battleship

[terry78]

If it comes in a close second this weekend, with what its made overseas already it could be considered a decent hit.

 

[Liam_H]

200 million sounds like alot then you remember Avengers is on track to make over 900 million overseas.

I don't see it as that much considering its budget is around $200 million, also its not looking to breakout domestically.

Im wondering how this will impact Kitsch career because it doesnt seem like a bomb but not a huge hit either.

Might happen to him what happened to Ryan Reynolds. He'll get the perception that he can't be a leading man and be in a big movie, however most of the blame has to do with things beyond their control.

 

[Raiden]

If it comes in a close second this weekend, with what its made overseas already it could be considered a decent hit.

Isn't its budget around 150-175 mil? It will need to make substantial amount just to break even, since the movie studio only receives about 50% of the gross.

 

[roach]

Budget: 209M
Current BO: 215M

all it needs is to have a 100M to break even

 

[TheVileOne]

Looks like it's going to flail this weekend.

Not a bad movie but really stupid. Like a Michael Bay-lite type of flick. Aliens were really dumb as brick. It has a couple good moments.

Taylor Kitsch simply isn't leading man material.

Peter Berg and the writers don't seem to understand humor and gravitas very well. The screening I was at, people were guffawing and laughing at scenes that were not supposed to be intentionally funny. The scenes that were meant to be funny came off really flat or cheesy.

I mean the beginning the whole reason for Kitsch and Decker meeting is over her not being able to get a chicken burrito at a dive ****ing bar. Seriously girl, go to ****ing Taco Bell and you can get like a dozen ****ing chicken burritos for like 99 cents. I might go out and get food at a bar if its decent but I don't go cruising to a dive bar and get all hissy about not getting some ****ing microwaved chicken burrito. I just couldn't buy into these scenes at all.

The aliens are also dumb as bricks. Their alien vision also made no sense and was very confusing.

 

[The Morningstar]

I want to know why the military automatically attacked the aliens? We send out a beacon to them, they come to earth, and then we attack them. Was this supposed to represent some irrational paranoia or jingoistic military bravado or something?

 

[TheVileOne]

Actually wasn't automatic. The aliens pretty much attacked/opened fire first. And they set up that big isolation dome first. Navy found them and tried to investigate and they took up shop and started blazing weapons.

Aliens were dumb idiots anyway. They deserved to get fragged.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I saw the movie, and I still don't know. Why were the aliens invading?

 

[TheVileOne]

It's never clear. They did the stupid telepathic connection cliche moment and it's still not clear. I assume they wanted to invade/take over the earth.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Gotta love how they don't even give a reason. Just a random alien invasion.

"Hey, we just got this signal from Earth, let's go wreck it!"

I guess I gotta give Bay some credit, at least his aliens have something resembling a goal.

 

[B]

I saw the movie, and I still don't know. Why were the aliens invading?

That's pretty much the big unanswered question in all alien invasion films, typically the answer is because they want the planets resources.

 

[Thundercrack85]

That's pretty much the big unanswered question in all alien invasion films, typically the answer is because they want the planets resources.

Usually, yeah. Which is a very dumb reason, since there aren't any resources you can find on Earth you can't find in space (and get them more easily). That's bad writing 101 right there. Unless they've come for the cows.

But most movies at least give you a reason, even if it's a very dumb one like Independence Day, or the dumbest I've ever seen, Cowboys and Aliens.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Budget: 209M
Current BO: 215M

all it needs is to have a 100M to break even

You have to include marketing cost meaning Battleship cost at least 260 m.

and because the studio only gets 50% of the worldwide box office gross, Battleship will need 520 m to break even.

It won't come anywhere near that.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Someone should have an intervention with Hasbro.

"You guys have only one franchise worth anything in Hollywood. Transformers.

Time to accept the truth."

 

[TheVileOne]

Pretty much. But that won't stop them from doing the Candyland movie next.

Still can't believe all this money was put on a film based on a freaking board game about battleships that had nothing to do with aliens.

 

[The Morningstar]

Like i said before, they should have done it like a Crimson Tide/Hunt for Red October type film.

 

[TheVileOne]

I would've preferred an attempt like that. I guess they figured with Transformers they needed a threat like that or with international box office being so important they didn't want to piss off another country cast as the bad guys.

But here's my main problem:

Spoiler

At the end everyone is celebrating like nothing happened. Um America, the world just got attacked by ****ing dangerous aliens. There could be more coming. This was just an expeditionary force. These kids are instead celebrating and talking about chicken burritos like all they did was catch Osama Bin Laden. There's a whole ****ing planet of these mother****ers, what if they decide to check on what happened to their first group?

 

[Gianakin_]

You REALLY think they'd thought that far/deep?

 

[TheVileOne]

Joss Whedon did.

Honestly why not? They spent enough money on this thing.

Even in Battle: Los Angeles, it ends with a victorious moment but the invasion isn't over and the marines head back into the fight. I liked that about Battle: LA.

In ID4 you see them taking out the giant mothership and the rest of the ships throughout the rest of the world. Maybe there are more aliens out there but at least now Earth has a strategy and defense to beat them and way to get through their defenses.

 

[Gianakin_]

Whedon did. But Berg is not Whedon. He isn't even Michael Bay.

And the answer to "why not" is the same answer to the countless "why nots" we shouldn't be asking by now about dumb films: Because they're all about a quick buck and nothing more.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well this movie is going to tank in the US, so there you go.

People can enjoy more intelligent and clever blockbusters Peter Berg. And no, doing your whole Stephen Hawking goldilocks planet thing doesn't make it smart sci-fi.

 

[Gianakin_]

Let's hope so.

 

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

Well this movie is going to tank in the US, so there you go.

People can enjoy more intelligent and clever blockbusters Peter Berg. And no, doing your whole Stephen Hawking goldilocks planet thing doesn't make it smart sci-fi.

And I should point out its obvious that he doesn't really understand the concepts he put in the movie- RE: the goldilocks thing- its not really that smart to tout the fact that you understand that if a planet is too far from its parent star it will be too cold or if its too close it will be too hot.

From what I understand, the aliens are alluded to being from Gliese581d, a star 20 light years away, meaning any transmission we sent to it would take 20 years to get there. But the movie has us signalling them in 2005, and there seems to be a hint that the signal is "boosted" somehow.

I'm sorry, but you can't allude to something like that- FTL communication is an amazing concept that could have a whole movie dedicated to it, assuming the filmmakers understand the subject matter. Guys like me are probably frustrated at things like that- "I want the movie about FTL communication!"

 

[Thundercrack85]

Which is odd to begin with, since the planet in question wasn't discovered until 2007. The signal we have actually sent should reach the planet circa 2029.

Is it too much for the writers to use Wikipedia?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Like i said before, they should have done it like a Crimson Tide/Hunt for Red October type film.

Or something like Master & Commander, but set in World War II.