Superman Returns Ben Hubbard

[Trooper]

Just came back from a UK Screening. and im realy sorry if this has been answered before or brought up before by any other user. MODS feel free to close thread once my question has been answered. anyway, where the hell was ben hubbard in this movie, i recall him saying 'bye martha' but that was about it. anyone know why this character was completely erased, i mean i saw him in the credits and all but man it would suck to have acted in a film for quite a bit and not make it to the final cut

 

[dark_b]

you have toe ralize that this movie was cut down. it was really cut down a lot. not only ben was cut out.there were scenes from young clark and there were even scenes cut out with martha.

this movie was in my opinion so shortened that it really hurted the story.


we really need the directors cut. yes i said directors cut because this is no way was the directors cut. they can call it an exended edition. i dont care. i just want the complete version of this movie nto just a little piece for the theater.

 

[Kid_Kaos]

this movie was in my opinion so shortened that it really hurted the story.

Sadly, yes. From the statements Singer and his crew gave about the storyline the final movie must be about 3 1/2 hours otherwise they couldn't really resolve all of the plots.

 

[Retroman]

The reason why Ben Hubbard's scenes didn't make the final cut.

From MLive.com:

The absence of a ubiquitous 'working actor'
Published: Friday, April 30, 2010, 2:13 PM Updated: Friday, April 30, 2010, 2:21 PM

Blunders come and blunders go.Some opportunities present themselves only to be blown.

James Karen

Consider that “Superman Returns” isn’t the only place where James Karen has vanished.

The veteran film, TV and Broadway actor — who previously had visited Muskegon and its Frauenthal Theater — several years ago also disappeared from the Muskegon Film Festival.

Known to his friends as Jimmy, Karen has accumulated a list of credits that runs for pages. His many movies have included “Wall Street,” “The Pursuit of Happyness,” “The China Syndrome,” “Poltergeist,” and “Any Given Sunday” and the starring role in a short film made in West Michigan.

Karen was absent from the Muskegon Film Festlival without ever being there in the first place.

The festival’s board of directors — all of whom are no longer affiliated with the event that began in 2001 — determined that the now 86-year-old Karen was not worth their while.

Brilliant is not the word for that kind of reasoning.

Nonsense, however, ....

MFF botching the Karen job came after John Harper Philbin, the Grand Valley State University film professor and movie director, invited Karen to come to the festival.

Karen and Philbin became buddies when Philbin directed Karen in “Flickering Blue,” a GVSU summer-film project.

Thus contacted, Karen agreed to attend the Muskegon Film Festival pretty much for free. He wanted only round-trip transportation for himself and his wife, director Alba Francesca, and hotel accommodations.

MFF, which this year is on hiatus, rolled no dice, a decision that, in retrospect, comes up snake eyes.

The Karen screw-up returned to the mind of Extra Iddings this week, as your friendly neighborhood blogger watched a televised rerun of a 2006 episode of “Secret’s Out,” a movie-discussion program hosted by famed critic Leonard Maltin.

Maltin’s guest: James Karen, whom the host characterized as a “working actor” who specializes in playing authority figures.

Among the topics that Maltin and Karen discussed was how Karen’s scenes in “Superman Returns” got left on the cutting room floor.

“Superman Returns” was directed by Bryan Singer, who, Karen said, years before had directed him in a student film.

In “Superman Returns,” Karen was the love interest of Eva Marie Saint, whom director Bryan Singer (“The Usual Suspects”) had cast as the mother of Superman’s alter ego, Clark Kent.

Apparently, Karen told Maltin, studio suits decided that a comic-book action movie aimed at a young audience was no place for two old people to be get it on.

Karen said Singer fought to keep the footage in which Karen appeared, but couldn’t. So, Karen said, Singer called him to apologize. Apology accepted, both moved on and remain friends, Karen said.

Muskegon first met Karen face-to-face in 2006.

He spoke here at the inaugural Thriller! Chiller” Film Festival. That festival, which since has moved to Grand Rapids, was screening a 1985 horror film in which Karen costarred, a zombie jamboree entitled “Return of the Living Dead.”

At the horror festival, Karen told Extra Iddings that the star of his new film, “The Pursuit of Happyness,” was a lock to get an Academy Award nomination as best actor.

Will Smith indeed got nominated for the Oscar.

James Karen knows what he’s talking about, even if some West Michiganders aren’t interested in listening.

It’s something to keep in mind when, May 20-23, the first Lakeside Film Festival will be held at the Harbor Theater, 1937 Lakeshore.

The Lakeside event is filling the void left by the Muskegon Film Festival, whose organizers decided they did not have enough time or help to pull off an event this spring.

Harbor operators Brendan and Jen Pelto have been busting their humps to make LFF a success.

A number of new films will premiere at the festival.

Among the special guests will be Lloyd Kaufman, cofounder of the Troma movie studio; and Richard Elfman, director of the camp classic “Forbidden Zone.”

Movies already booked for LFF star such recognizable names as Colin Farrell, James Franco, Jeremy Sisto and Ralph Macchio, the latter being the original “Karate Kid.”

One of the LFF movies, “Howl,” is directed by Rob Epstein (“The Life and Times of Harvey Milk.”

Narrating another, The Doors documentary “When You’re Strange,” is Johnny Depp.

Wonder what James Karen is doing this May.

SOURCE:http://blog.mlive.com/extra_iddings/2010/04/the_absence_of_a_ubiquitous_wo.html