Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief

[Erzengel]

TMZ is reporting that Cruise hasn't seen his daughter in a year.

 

[dustbros]

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PTA and Cruise were big pals through out shooing Magnolia and long after. He didn't have a falling out with PTA until PTA showed him a private screening of The Master, so I'm sure that if a director doesn't make a not so subtle film questioning his religion, Cruise is fine, PTA did that very thing. It's also worth noting that the artist involved with the transitions in Punch Drunk Love "commited suicide" after leaving Scientology, which disturbed PTA greatly.

They are still friends. PTA even praised TC in EOT.

 

[Octoberist]

ARe they?

 

[weezerspider]

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They are still friends. PTA even praised TC in EOT.

Oh PTA sees him as a friend. PTA LOOOOOVES Tom Cruise, but it's now a one way street.

 

[StarLord]

I finally watched this last night. It was brilliant, but everything about Scientology is creepy and disgusting.

From the stupid looking Sea Org uniforms that they wear to that hideous looking blue building. What an absolute scam.

 

[Rowsdower!]

It really is nothing but a massive scam. David Miscavige is like a real-life supervillain.

I wonder if Immortan Joe and the War Boys in Mad Max were at all influenced by L. Ron Hubbard and the Sea Org.

 

[RivenSky]

Got to see this recently. I knew very little about Hubbard. Talk about crazy pants. Certainly eye-opening.

 

[Sawyer]

Won the Emmy for Best Documentary

 

[danoyse]

Folks, make sure to keep the discussion on the documentary itself, and not on religion as a whole. (for anyone wondering why some posts have gone missing)

 

[Doctor Jones]

This documentary was as excellent as it was deeply disturbing. I've never been so shaken after finding something out. The worst part is it's going on here and it's still going on and they're getting away with it. Miscavage really is a monster. And I'm convinced Cruise is the most brainwashed victim out of them all, given his status and how Miscavage needs to give him the most attention to bring in more members.

I'd recommend people read some Vanity Fair articles that details the full story of the woman who was made up to be Tom Cruise's girlfriend and what happened to Miscavage's wife who has not been seen in public since 2007.

The more people know about what these people are doing the better.

 

[mclay18]

HBO Documentary Films is re-releasing Going Clear in select markets for awards season. A theater in Clearwater, FL told the company they weren't going to show the film after getting threats from the Church. (It will now play in a theater 12 miles away in Oldsmar.)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/going-clear-dropped-florida-theater-824627

 

[Sawyer]

A bit from Leah Remini's new book...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwiese...-in-leah-reminis-scientology-book#.ghO9q6vJBz

8. Allegedly Isabella Cruise had some damning words about her mother.

On the way back to America following Cruise and Holmes’ wedding, Remini found herself in the same airport shuttle as Isabella and Connor Cruise, the children Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman adopted together while they were married. Remini had long known the kids from their time at the Celebrity Centre together and had recently “gotten to know them better” during those nights at Cruise’s house, but she rarely saw them without the supervision of a church representative. So Remini seized the opportunity to ask a question that she’d long wondered: Do you see your mom?

“Not if I have a choice,” Isabella said, according to Remini. “Our mom is a ****ing SP.” An SP, or suppressive person, is any individual who speaks out against the church. Members are dissuaded from having any contact with them. “My heart broke for [Connor], his sister, and their mother as we rode the rest of the way to the airport without saying another word.”

The kids open their mouths and David Miscavige's voice comes out.

 

[flickchick85]

That is so depressing.

 

[Sawyer]

I kind of wonder if we'll ever hear anything out of Kidman's or Katie Holmes' mouths about the church.

 

[flickchick85]

Not while Tom is still in, imo. If he ever turns and breaks free, I'm sure the floodgates would open. Sadly that doesn't seem likely at this point.

 

[Defacto]

But wasn't M:I 5 great though? And Tom Cruise is such a great person, he gives hours and hours to his fans, he does all his own stunts and he just wants to entertain his audience. Why the hate?

 

[dark_b]

i am happy that i watched MI5 before Going Clear.

 

[Drz]

But wasn't M:I 5 great though? And Tom Cruise is such a great person, he gives hours and hours to his fans, he does all his own stunts and he just wants to entertain his audience. Why the hate?

C'mon he's saved the entire world so many times, you can forgive him.

 

[Greens]

Not while Tom is still in, imo. If he ever turns and breaks free, I'm sure the floodgates would open. Sadly that doesn't seem likely at this point.

Judging from these stories, Tom is in way too deep. Kind of sad.

The article mentions that J.J. Abrams was at the wedding. He's a Scientologist??

 

[mclay18]

Judging from these stories, Tom is in way too deep. Kind of sad.

The article mentions that J.J. Abrams was at the wedding. He's a Scientologist??

No, he's one of Cruise's friends.

 

[Greens]

No, he's one of Cruise's friends.

I know, but she mentions that he complained about her behavior at the wedding.

Oh, well.

 

[Drizzle]

If you google "JJ Abrams Scientologist" there are a few unconfirmed sources that say he's an ex-Scientologist.