Best horror movie of the '21st century'...?

a thing about the decent is the version you watched the american ending is bull**** with everything happy, where as the real british ending is superb
 
a thing about the decent is the version you watched the american ending is bull**** with everything happy, where as the real british ending is superb


I do think the real ending was a bit better, but i still don't think it is the best horror movie of the 21st century

Devils Rejects is a masterpiece in just a general film sense, I think not only is it the best horror movie of the 21st century, it also is one of the 25 or so best films period in my book
 
American ending? British ending? There's two different endings?

I bought the unrated dvd where....

the surviving girl doesn't make it out of the cave, and is sitting there with her dead daughter in front of her birthday cake...
 
I liked The Devil's Rejects, 28 Days later, The Hills Have Eyes, and Haute Tension.
 
All you 'The Ring' fans, this movie used to be a fav but 'The Ring 2' just killed it for me.....absolutely the worst horror sequel of all time, imo. It was sssssooooooooooooooo bad, it made me change my love for the original into hatred, because i knew, while watching the first one now, what ridiculous events are to follow Noami Watts character in the sequel.

I agree, it does sully the name of the original somewhat. But just disregard it. The Ring Two doesn't have the same director (Gore Verbinksi) and Watts and....what is that kid's name? David Dorfman?...only appeared due to contractual obligation. It's not anything more than a souless commerical excercise.
 
I liked The Devil's Rejects, 28 Days later, The Hills Have Eyes, and Haute Tension.

28 Days Later is very Doctor Who (obviously not in every way, there are no Daleks or time travellers), and very The Last Train (which was a British TV show in the late 90s). I love it.
 
I don't know if anyone would count Pan's Labyrinth as horror, but I kind of see it as such. In that case, it wipes its ass with any other horror movie released in a long time.
 
American ending? British ending? There's two different endings?

I bought the unrated dvd where....

the surviving girl doesn't make it out of the cave, and is sitting there with her dead daughter in front of her birthday cake...

yeahs thats the real one the british one in the american cinema version the creidts roll when she gets outside and into the car
 
I do think the real ending was a bit better, but i still don't think it is the best horror movie of the 21st century

Devils Rejects is a masterpiece in just a general film sense, I think not only is it the best horror movie of the 21st century, it also is one of the 25 or so best films period in my book

I agree that it's a masterpiece and I'd rank it in my top 15, though I'd still rank The Descent higher(I'm a hardcore horror buff, so many of my favorite films are from that genre and I think there have been plenty of great ones in the past 5-10 years).

As for the ending difference in The Descent, I think alot of people miss that
We see a brief flash of Sarah's eyes surrounded in darkness right before the credits roll, so even in the American version, it's implied that she's still in the cave, it's just not as obvious.
That said, I agree that the UK ending is better and gives the perfect final shot showing both the physical and psychological meanings to the title.
 
I don't know if anyone would count Pan's Labyrinth as horror, but I kind of see it as such. In that case, it wipes its ass with any other horror movie released in a long time.

I would choose that as the best to if I considered it horror, but I don't think the horror label really fits at all; though I have seen people list it as such.
 
I really liked the Descent, but I would have to say I liked 28 days later more.

there isn't much competition though, most of these movies are all remakes, that suck when compared to the originals. The Ring is perhaps better than the Japanese equivilant, or at the very least just as good. They managed to transport the setting to the states but keep the same creepy vibe. The Ring however isn't all that great on repeat viewings.
 
28 Days Later is very Doctor Who (obviously not in every way, there are no Daleks or time travellers), and very The Last Train (which was a British TV show in the late 90s). I love it.

The Last train was an excellent show. Best thing ITV have ever done.
 
I think They is an underrated horror movie. Not necessarily the best, but not bad. The ending was very Lovecraftian, in the sense that there is no hope.
 
I really liked the Descent, but I would have to say I liked 28 days later more.

there isn't much competition though, most of these movies are all remakes, that suck when compared to the originals. The Ring is perhaps better than the Japanese equivilant, or at the very least just as good. They managed to transport the setting to the states but keep the same creepy vibe. The Ring however isn't all that great on repeat viewings.

I honestly think The Ring remake surpasses the Japanese version. It gets the setting, and feeling, and tension which made the original so good right. Plus the acting is far superior.
 
if you guys consider the Saw films as horror, though i personally consider them as gory suspense thrillers, then i feel that these films have been the best of its genre in the 21st Century.
 
The 21 first century has been BAD, and I mean BAD in horror. Just as the 90's were. But while the 90's was filled with Scream movies wannabe, the 21 first century is filled with stupid and pointless remake. The originality isn't there anymore, at least in Hollywood. What some people seem to forget, is that most of us horror fans have seen the originals, so the remakes have NO impact on us. How the **** are we supposed to be scare by a story we already know ? The only horror remake that ever succeed to do so, was the Thing remake by Carpenter. And that happened because Carpenter, while a big fan of the original one, didn't follow the original movie at all, and instead went to the original source for inspiration (the short story in this case)

Nowadays, Hollywood is in the worse shape it has ever been as far as horror goes. Nearly no talented filmmakers goes into horror anymore. Where's the spielberg (jaws), Cronenberg (the fly), Carpenter (Thing, Halloween), Kubrick (shining), Ridley Scott (alien) of todays ? All the best horror movies weren't made by unknows, but rather by some of the greatest filmmakers there was.

What if directors like Del Torro would go full horror with a new project ? What if he really tried to scare the audience for a whole movie ? What if scenes like the one with the Pale man in Pan's labyrinth populated the whole movie instead ? What if Scorsese would try horror ? What if Cronenberg would come back to the genre ? Or Ridley Scott ? Why isn't Shyamalan trying to make a fullblown horror movie instead of suspense movies with some horror elements in them ?? That's what's been missing. That's why horror has suck, at least in Hollywood, for the last 20 years. Some people have mentionned the ring remake and 28 days later. These are some of the rare exceptions, but both of their problems were that they had no originality in their script. The ring was a replica of his original self. Where's the fun in that ? Where's Carpenter's terrific unpredictable changes here ? 28 days later was already on a better track, taking the zombie theme on a whole new level. The second half felt like a cheap Day of the dead rippoff, which killed the movie for me back then, but then again I haven't watched it since I saw it in theatres. I still respect the movie more than nearly anything else that came out these last 20 years.

Now, the worse is, if Hollywood is in bad shape, we should be able to find interesting horror movies that surface everywhere in the world, wouldn't we ? But unfortunately, the rest of the world isn't doing that much better. Japan had a great boom with the original The ring, and soon follewed by the even more scary (but less original) Ju-On back then. Ju-on brough the fear of small houses, being confined and mixed it with ghosts. It was brilliant. Until they decided to do 3 sequels and 2 remakes. Heh. Same with the ring. And then what happened in japan ? They decided to make EVERY horror movies in those shapes. Horror in Japan has become a joke, unfortunately. And what's worse ? Hollywood are remaking every thing from back there. What's worse than a japanese rippoff of another japanese rippoff movie ? An hollywood remake of a japanese movie that was a rippoff of another japanese movie. Now THAT'S an horrific though!

The eye was great! The first half of the eye was such a successful horror experience from the Pang brothers. Just as good as the ring and Ju-on. Of course, they had to destroy the second part and make it into a redemption movie, where everything is explained and fixed. I hated that. Still like the movie, and still think, while partly a failure, it is one of the only good horror movie of the last ten years out there, imo.

And then there's the descent. I'd put it up there with the eye and the others. Just like the eye, it had a great first half, and a very disappointing second one. I liked the second part, but it killed all the suspense and scares it build in the first half. In the first half, the director was able to bring the claustrophobia fear to the audience so well. Such a feat to do! I was in awe! And if you are already scare when there are no monsters, can you imagine later ? But no, the fear and the claustrophobia all go away in the second half. It becomes something else, more of an action sci-fi thriller than an horror movie. I was rather disappointed. Still a pretty good horror flick, though, for the simple reason the first half succeed so well, which is more than nearly every other horror movies out there.

So, I'd say we have the original The ring, the original Ju-on, the original The eye (also being remade right now, with Jessica Alba. Bwaha. So sad, yet so funny), the descend and 28 days later.

Saw was good too, I guess. Hills have eyes had one hell of a great direction by Alexandre Aja. But the script was pretty bad, and unscary. Worse, it was a remake of a movie that was already a rippoff of Texas Chainsaw massacre. Bad idea, imo.

Silent hill ? I love the monster costumes. Such a success! I find the game ****ing scary, and so well done. So much potential in there. But the movie was a huge disappointment. Gans is no horror director. He just doesn't get it. You cannot scare people with 3D coackroaches! That guy should get an award for ruinning scenes with creatures so well done. How he could fell is beyond me.

Where should horror movie go ? In the ends of GOOD director and good writers. Really, it is as simple as this.

I'm looking foward to Stephen King's the mist, personally. The director is Frank Darabont, a great director who made The Shawshank Redemption and the Green mile. The movie is an adaptation of one of the greatest and scariest Stephen King story. The FX will be done by the people who did Pan's Labyrinth. And the cast is shaping really well.

Del Torro is also interested in adapting a Lovecraft novel. How incredible that would be I cannot even begin to imagine it.
 
I honestly think The Ring remake surpasses the Japanese version. It gets the setting, and feeling, and tension which made the original so good right. Plus the acting is far superior.

The acting in the japanese one is very Japanese. And the acting in the american one is very American. You cannot judge the acting of a japanese movie the same way you'd judge an american one. And well, don't forget the japanese one came before. All the originality came there. Yes, ALL of it. Since it came out before, you were supposed to see it first. If you did, the american one would have seem like a mere copy. But i'm guessing you saw the american version first, which kind of kill the whole japanese one.

I actually happen to have the same problem, having seen the american one before the japanese one, so I cannot fault you on that. ;)
 
The 21 first century has been BAD, and I mean BAD in horror. Just as the 90's were. But while the 90's was filled with Scream movies wannabe, the 21 first century is filled with stupid and pointless remake. The originality isn't there anymore, at least in Hollywood. What some people seem to forget, is that most of us horror fans have seen the originals, so the remakes have NO impact on us. How the **** are we supposed to be scare by a story we already know ? The only horror remake that ever succeed to do so, was the Thing remake by Carpenter. And that happened because Carpenter, while a big fan of the original one, didn't follow the original movie at all, and instead went to the original source for inspiration (the short story in this case)

Nowadays, Hollywood is in the worse shape it has ever been as far as horror goes. Nearly no talented filmmakers goes into horror anymore. Where's the spielberg (jaws), Cronenberg (the fly), Carpenter (Thing, Halloween), Kubrick (shining), Ridley Scott (alien) of todays ? All the best horror movies weren't made by unknows, but rather by some of the greatest filmmakers there was.

What if directors like Del Torro would go full horror with a new project ? What if he really tried to scare the audience for a whole movie ? What if scenes like the one with the Pale man in Pan's labyrinth populated the whole movie instead ? What if Scorsese would try horror ? What if Cronenberg would come back to the genre ? Or Ridley Scott ? Why isn't Shyamalan trying to make a fullblown horror movie instead of suspense movies with some horror elements in them ?? That's what's been missing. That's why horror has suck, at least in Hollywood, for the last 20 years. Some people have mentionned the ring remake and 28 days later. These are some of the rare exceptions, but both of their problems were that they had no originality in their script. The ring was a replica of his original self. Where's the fun in that ? Where's Carpenter's terrific unpredictable changes here ? 28 days later was already on a better track, taking the zombie theme on a whole new level. The second half felt like a cheap Day of the dead rippoff, which killed the movie for me back then, but then again I haven't watched it since I saw it in theatres. I still respect the movie more than nearly anything else that came out these last 20 years.

Now, the worse is, if Hollywood is in bad shape, we should be able to find interesting horror movies that surface everywhere in the world, wouldn't we ? But unfortunately, the rest of the world isn't doing that much better. Japan had a great boom with the original The ring, and soon follewed by the even more scary (but less original) Ju-On back then. Ju-on brough the fear of small houses, being confined and mixed it with ghosts. It was brilliant. Until they decided to do 3 sequels and 2 remakes. Heh. Same with the ring. And then what happened in japan ? They decided to make EVERY horror movies in those shapes. Horror in Japan has become a joke, unfortunately. And what's worse ? Hollywood are remaking every thing from back there. What's worse than a japanese rippoff of another japanese rippoff movie ? An hollywood remake of a japanese movie that was a rippoff of another japanese movie. Now THAT'S an horrific though!

The eye was great! The first half of the eye was such a successful horror experience from the Pang brothers. Just as good as the ring and Ju-on. Of course, they had to destroy the second part and make it into a redemption movie, where everything is explained and fixed. I hated that. Still like the movie, and still think, while partly a failure, it is one of the only good horror movie of the last ten years out there, imo.

And then there's the descent. I'd put it up there with the eye and the others. Just like the eye, it had a great first half, and a very disappointing second one. I liked the second part, but it killed all the suspense and scares it build in the first half. In the first half, the director was able to bring the claustrophobia fear to the audience so well. Such a feat to do! I was in awe! And if you are already scare when there are no monsters, can you imagine later ? But no, the fear and the claustrophobia all go away in the second half. It becomes something else, more of an action sci-fi thriller than an horror movie. I was rather disappointed. Still a pretty good horror flick, though, for the simple reason the first half succeed so well, which is more than nearly every other horror movies out there.

So, I'd say we have the original The ring, the original Ju-on, the original The eye (also being remade right now, with Jessica Alba. Bwaha. So sad, yet so funny), the descend and 28 days later.

Saw was good too, I guess. Hills have eyes had one hell of a great direction by Alexandre Aja. But the script was pretty bad, and unscary. Worse, it was a remake of a movie that was already a rippoff of Texas Chainsaw massacre. Bad idea, imo.

Silent hill ? I love the monster costumes. Such a success! I find the game ****ing scary, and so well done. So much potential in there. But the movie was a huge disappointment. Gans is no horror director. He just doesn't get it. You cannot scare people with 3D coackroaches! That guy should get an award for ruinning scenes with creatures so well done. How he could fell is beyond me.

Where should horror movie go ? In the ends of GOOD director and good writers. Really, it is as simple as this.

I'm looking foward to Stephen King's the mist, personally. The director is Frank Darabont, a great director who made The Shawshank Redemption and the Green mile. The movie is an adaptation of one of the greatest and scariest Stephen King story. The FX will be done by the people who did Pan's Labyrinth. And the cast is shaping really well.

Del Torro is also interested in adapting a Lovecraft novel. How incredible that would be I cannot even begin to imagine it.

Great post. :up:

Del Toro doing Lovecraft would be amazing. That guy was born to bring Lovecraft to the screen in a way no one else I've seen yet.
 
The acting in the japanese one is very Japanese. And the acting in the american one is very American. You cannot judge the acting of a japanese movie the same way you'd judge an american one. And well, don't forget the japanese one came before. All the originality came there. Yes, ALL of it. Since it came out before, you were supposed to see it first. If you did, the american one would have seem like a mere copy. But i'm guessing you saw the american version first, which kind of kill the whole japanese one.

I actually happen to have the same problem, having seen the american one before the japanese one, so I cannot fault you on that. ;)

I think so much of the middle part of the Ring is changed compared to the original, that I think it's unfair to write the remake off as a mere copy. They did a lot of things differently compared to the original, while maintaining the overall narrative structure.
 
The Ring was great, but like i said, the sequel was sssssoooo bad, everytime i watch it i think about part 2.

yeahs thats the real one the british one in the american cinema version the creidts roll when she gets outside and into the car

O.K, so the British one is better. Bad thing is, it opens up possiblities for a sequel, which might ruin the original.

Bring on Dog Soldiers 2 with Kevin McKidd!
 
About HHE "ripping off TCM," TCM is one of Aja's favorite movies and he's likely to have strong homages to it in every movie he does, but it's not really ripping it off.
The imagery may seem familiar to genre fans from TCM, but it's based on a family of cannibals that actually existed centuries before TCM, or even the events that TCM is based upon.
I also thought the script was fantastic, I cared as much about that family as I ever have about any ensamble in a horror film. I could actually picture my own family members interacting when I was watching the Carters during the first 45 minutes of this film, their chemistry and their dialogue was that believeable.

What I loved about The Descent is how multi-dimensional it was(which I talked about in previous posts), if they'd done nothing but the subtle suspense thriller it was during the first half I think it would've weakened the film immensely.
As it is, it worked on so many different levels. It was brutal, yet still subtle, psychological, contained a strong morality tale element...

The Descent is my favorite horror film of all time, and Aja's Hills(significantly better than Haute Tension, which I also loved)isn't far off.

I've seen plenty of great horror film since 2000, those being two of the best.
 
In terms of creepiness? The Ring. The sequel could have been a LOT better, though. I haven't seen the Japanese version, so I can't say which one I like better.
 

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