Best modern Superman movie?

[ARBH]

Hmm.. I liked Man of Steel more than Superman Returns. At the conclusion of Man of Steel, I had hoped that we would see a less wooden and socially accepted Superman moving forward. But it appears that Snyder has a fetish for torturing Big Blue. Even in the montage of Superman doing Superman tings in BvS, he looked utterly uninterested and depressed that he had to be doing them. It did not feel heroic in the least.

 

[Jochimus]

Eh, my choice for the best modern Superman movie wouldn't be any of the live-action ones post-Reeve.

That honor would go to the STAS pilot, "Last Son Of Krypton". Not only does it provide a less awkward Clark Kent, a Lois Lane who actually has her head screwed on straighter than most, a more complicated relationship with Lana Lang, and a more Silver Age-influenced Krypton that resembles neither Donner's ice-crystal planet (which I love, frankly, no matter how much anybody else hates it) nor an even-less-imaginative Naboo/Coruscant rip-off --- it also gives significant roles to no less than THREE of Superman's classic Rogues (Brainiac, Luthor AND Corben/Metallo) in addition to paving the way for two more to show up later (via the Phantom Zone), AND establishes, via that great line from Martha ("I don't want people thinking you're like that nut in Gotham City!"), that other costumed crimefighters do indeed exist in this world without otherwise depending on the necessity of being familiar with BTAS/AB&R before it. And, at a meager hour and a half, it manages to do all this without feeling at all cluttered or contrived or otherwise attempting to shift the characterization of Superman according to WB's trademark square-peg-in-a-round-hole attitude toward handling the character.

 

[Xrated48]

Man of Steel

 

[batfreakforever]

Man of Steel by far

 

[SM_experiment]

Honestly Superman returns but only because it does not betray the themes and complexties of Superman as much as the other two. It still does it with him but only by being a creepy stalker and deadbeat dad. Tt still has the airplane scene and Brandon Routh is allowed to speak, articulate and think as Superman not like Cavill who is a dumb mute. It only depends on whether you want to see action, idiocy and raping Superman mythology (mostly BvS) or two scenes that make the rest of the movie seem worth it. In the end at least in Returns I do not want to punch Clark and yell at him to grow the **** up.

I mean I agree with the Guy above that Superman the animated series or pretty much all the animated movies that has come out is better than any of the live action ones by pretty far. Kinda funny how the very neglected WB animation department is still outshining the live action parts.

Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman movie, ADMIT IT EVERYONE........ ADMIT IT

 

[Summoner]

Honestly? It pains me to say I don't like the three of 'em.

Superman Returns is a tribute to the first two, successful Superman films, but is outdated and forgettable.

Man of Steel is unoriginal. Had uninventive dialogue. Uninspired story choices. Hackneyed storyline.

Batman and Superman is a train wreck that is incomprehensible from a story standpoint. If there is a coherent story in there, I haven't gotten to it because just thinking about it hurts my head. It was hardly a Superman movie.

I'm still waiting for a good, modern Superman movie.

 

[STARMAN]

I find them all disappointing in one way or another.

 

[Jekecy]

I liked BvS the most out of all them, but strictly speaking in regards to Superman I've been disappointed equally with all three so I refuse to vote a victor.

 

[SM_experiment]

Honestly? It pains me to say I don't like the three of 'em.

Superman Returns is a tribute to the first two, successful Superman films, but is outdated and forgettable.

Man of Steel is unoriginal. Had uninventive dialogue. Uninspired story choices. Hackneyed storyline.

Batman and Superman is a train wreck that is incomprehensible from a story standpoint. If there is a coherent story in there, I haven't gotten to it because just thinking about it hurts my head. It was hardly a Superman movie.

I'm still waiting for a good, modern Superman movie.

This comment...... I wished I hadn't voted now but I can only blame myself and sleep deprivation.

 

[ernesth100]

Man of Steel, just feels like a more mature and realistic approach on the character. Gives him a very human outlook. Or atleast a modern human outlook on how the world would handle a being with such power and how a being with such power might act.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Honestly Superman returns but only because it does not betray the themes and complexties of Superman as much as the other two. It still does it with him but only by being a creepy stalker and deadbeat dad. Tt still has the airplane scene and Brandon Routh is allowed to speak, articulate and think as Superman not like Cavill who is a dumb mute. It only depends on whether you want to see action, idiocy and raping Superman mythology (mostly BvS) or two scenes that make the rest of the movie seem worth it. In the end at least in Returns I do not want to punch Clark and yell at him to grow the **** up.

I mean I agree with the Guy above that Superman the animated series or pretty much all the animated movies that has come out is better than any of the live action ones by pretty far. Kinda funny how the very neglected WB animation department is still outshining the live action parts.

Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman movie, ADMIT IT EVERYONE........ ADMIT IT

Cavill was a dumb mute but Routh was allowed to speak, articulate and think? What movie did you watch? He barely had any dialogue and when he did deliver lines, he was either completely blankfaced or just doing a (poor) Christopher Reeve impression.

 

[MrsKent26]

Cavill was a dumb mute but Routh was allowed to speak, articulate and think? What movie did you watch? He barely had any dialogue and when he did deliver lines, he was either completely blankfaced or just doing a (poor) Christopher Reeve impression.

I agree completely.

BvS's superman was an awful iteration, but it was no worse than SR.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah. In fact, a key reason why BvS pissed me off so much is because Superman REMINDED me of SR Superman: silent and vapid, whose purpose is just to fly around and lift giant objects.

 

[Summoner]

This comment...... I wished I hadn't voted now but I can only blame myself and sleep deprivation.

Lol so do you agree or disagree?

 

[Thanos]

Superman Returns... only because the original Superman movie wasn't included.

 

[SM_experiment]

Lol so do you agree or disagree?

I agree with it for me choosing between these movies for which is the best one is fundamentally like choosing which way to die slowest. I hate them all. Superman Returns is a massive bore and has a whining Superman that disappeared for five years for vague bad explainations and now stalks Lois on a regular basis but Brandon Routh does his best Reeves impersonation and is at least likable in the stuff like the airplane scene and like two more. It is easily forgettable and massive bland made by a overrated bland director.

MoS is ****ting on the mythology of Superman as well as being just as boring (just because it has fight scenes doesn't make more interesting) as SR but is also just about completely an even more bad movie on all accounts. Acting is worse, writing is horrendous, directing is bad and it is just so unoriginal, they make one of the greatest Superheroes into just another whining ******* who flees responsibilities because HUMANITY sucks.

BvS is just bad on every single account as well as making the bad Superman from MoS even worse.

I never said Brandon Routh was good just that in multiple scenes he is actually allowed to act and speak which Cavill in neither MoS nor BvS was allowed to do. I really have no issue with Cavill because I think the script and directing was so horrible that he really hasn't been allowed to actually act anything that were not a constipated childish *******.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Well, one thing it sounds like most of us agree on is that Superman deserves better treatment on film. Sadly, I don't see it happening unless BvS was a HUGE wakeup call for WB. It seems unfathomable that WB wouldn't realize how badly Snyder f***ed up with that movie, but sadly, it seems like the only thing they took away from its poor reception is, "Batfleck kinda works! Throw money at him instead of Snyder!" And Superman is likely going to get the shaft again.

 

[SM_experiment]

Superman will always get shafted because he fundamentally requires you to think in certain ways in order to write stories for. Batman is easy, all you need is to write an action film and place a dude with a batsymbol on in it.

Well they will never admit that they turned again one of the greatest hero into a generic angsty *******. Because WBs hates DC comics and all the heroes in it. That much is clear when they give the director chair of Justice League to the dude who made Superman boring twice.

 

[SM_experiment]

I agree completely.

BvS's superman was an awful iteration, but it was no worse than SR.

It was a much worse movie on all accounts. Worse plot, directing, editing, charaterisations and themes.

This does not mean Superman Returns is good by any means it isn't It is Bryan Singer essential wanting to remake the Donnermovies while hating the comic book character. It is for me a wonder that he still makes Xmen movies because he is very mediocre and bland director.

 

[SM_experiment]

Man of Steel, just feels like a more mature and realistic approach on the character. Gives him a very human outlook. Or atleast a modern human outlook on how the world would handle a being with such power and how a being with such power might act.

For me a big problem in this movie is the fact that he isn't humanised. He is constantly made into the alien parts of his heritage. They are emphasized above all else, his alieness not his humanity but his otherness not his inclusiveness. He is constantly made into a sterotypical godlike hero, rather than the interesting compaasionate hero he is. MoS emphasizes SUPER before the MAN part which is so boring and unoriginal. .

 

[Summoner]

I agree with it for me choosing between these movies for which is the best one is fundamentally like choosing which way to die slowest. I hate them all. Superman Returns is a massive bore and has a whining Superman that disappeared for five years for vague bad explainations and now stalks Lois on a regular basis but Brandon Routh does his best Reeves impersonation and is at least likable in the stuff like the airplane scene and like two more. It is easily forgettable and massive bland made by a overrated bland director.

MoS is ****ting on the mythology of Superman as well as being just as boring (just because it has fight scenes doesn't make more interesting) as SR but is also just about completely an even more bad movie on all accounts. Acting is worse, writing is horrendous, directing is bad and it is just so unoriginal, they make one of the greatest Superheroes into just another whining ******* who flees responsibilities because HUMANITY sucks.

BvS is just bad on every single account as well as making the bad Superman from MoS even worse.

I never said Brandon Routh was good just that in multiple scenes he is actually allowed to act and speak which Cavill in neither MoS nor BvS was allowed to do. I really have no issue with Cavill because I think the script and directing was so horrible that he really hasn't been allowed to actually act anything that were not a constipated childish *******.

Brandon Routh is good, but Henry Cavill was born to play Superman. It's a shame the script doesn't allow him to, though.

 

[Lantern Venom]

For me a big problem in this movie is the fact that he isn't humanised. He is constantly made into the alien parts of his heritage. They are emphasized above all else, his alieness not his humanity but his otherness not his inclusiveness. He is constantly made into a sterotypical godlike hero, rather than the interesting compaasionate hero he is. MoS emphasizes SUPER before the MAN part which is so boring and unoriginal. .

I would claim the exact opposite. Even as a child, I could never buy the adoring reaction of the general population to Donner/Lester/Furie's Superman. So many modern hero franchises get the public wariness factor correct (X-men, Raimi's Spider-man, Avengers) that it made the writing for the old Superman films look even worse.

Superman's struggle to be human should always be at the forefront of the story and his quest to prove himself should be extremely difficult. The fact that he looks human is a mere surface characteristic because he's a sentient being with power that surpasses any military on earth. In reality, there would *always* be mistrust of him among a percentage of the population. This isn't to say that he can't eventually have well-wishers and allies, but each of them should have to be hard-earned. That's what MOS finally got right.

 

[SM_experiment]

I would claim the exact opposite. Even as a child, I could never buy the adoring reaction of the general population to Donner/Lester/Furie's Superman. So many modern hero franchises get the public wariness factor correct (X-men, Raimi's Spider-man, Avengers) that it made the writing for the old Superman films look even worse.

Superman struggle to be human should always be at the forefront of the story and his quest to prove himself should be extremely difficult. The fact that he looks human is a mere surface characteristic because he's a sentient being with power that surpasses any military on earth. In reality, there would *always* be mistrust of him among a percentage of the population. This isn't to say that he can't eventually have well-wishers and allies, but each of them should have to be hard-earned. That's what MOS finally got right.

First off notice how you never adress my point. That the movie focuses too much on the SUPER part of him not the MAN part. You adressed that people fear him and are against him which I have no issue with since that is among many obstacles is supposed to overcome. But in the end the movie is not examining Clarks upbrining and how while he has these amazing and fearsome powers he has grown up among two inclusive and empathetic people that taught Yes humans are *******s but we can change and you can help show them the way. They do throw in the by the number ******** monologues from Pa kent after the horrible parenting from him and Jor El but we never see Clark struggle with it or express in any way his opinions on it. MoS for struggles to actual capture Superman interesting and complex cobflicts and replace him with a generic whiny manchild. It also has pretty much similar problems to the original movie that Clark is just told what to do by patriarchical figures not hos own actions and choices.

The old movies are overrated. But if you bring them up in the assumption that i must like them because MoS sucks than no i do not. The superman i want to see on the bigscreen hasn't been there yet.

 

[Mutant 77]

I think "Batman v Superman" is truly a standalone movie, not a Superman movie.

By the way, I devoted some section of my Superman Movie Continuities website to the Snyderverse...

http://superman-universes.blogspot.com

 

[Micromind]

I think "Batman v Superman" is truly a standalone movie, not a Superman movie.

By the way, I devoted some section of my Superman Movie Continuities website to the Snyderverse...

http://superman-universes.blogspot.com

Agreed.