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are you a musician?Ronny Shade said:Musicians aren't supposed to make money. They're supposed to suffer. Good music only comes from pain.
are you a musician?Ronny Shade said:Musicians aren't supposed to make money. They're supposed to suffer. Good music only comes from pain.
what kind?Ronny Shade said:
Wilhelm-Scream said:Don't forget skin flute, Ronny.
isn't he the famous dong player?jaguarr said:I also heard Ronny's a virtuoso on the upright organ.
jag
Man-Thing said:I think 99.999999999999% of all people who throw the word sell-out around are sad pathetic creatures who want to live the life of rockstar through their hero "rock star". I don't really give a crap if someone makes something to make some dough, cause in the end that's what it's all about, and what it should be about.![]()
jaguarr said:So, as a capitalist pig-dog I agree that it's all about the money. However, as a musician, writer, painter and photographer, I disagree with you, because when it comes to my artistic expression, the creativity and that entire process are all that matter to me. I do it for myself in order to fulfill artistic desires and visions and a deep-seated craving to realize those through their full expression. I've sold some work and was happy about that, no doubt, but I didn't set about creating something that I calculated would be something someone would pay me for, completely throwing out my own artistic needs in the process.
Now, I don't make a living solely off of my artistic endeavors. But if I did, I would want to do it on my terms and in a way that satiated my creative needs first and foremost.
jag
Man-Thing said:Oh I agree entirely, but I think we have a different interpretation of what a sell-out is. To me a sell-out is someone who does something their "fans" want to do, whereas the people who get labled sell-outs a lot of the time are the ones who do what they want to do.
In the end though, making dough off of your "art" (I hate it when music is called art) should be, and most of the time is the biggest motivator. If it weren't then bands wouldn't sell t-shirts and such. I think it's funny though when I see bands like RATM selling t-shirts, but at the same token write songs about the ills of capitalism.