Bill Clinton smacking down Chris Wallace.

If you want to use this to stroke your ego some more be my guest. I don't give a ****.
 
KingOfDreams said:
If you want to use this to stroke your ego some more be my guest. I don't give a ****.

Why can't you just answer the question? I want to know why you make the claim this is an "example". I don't think its that difficult. But apparently you do.
 
Ben Urich said:
Post Crisis Clinton :woot::up:
Who would be Clinton Prime? :huh:
If Hilary becomes President in '08 we will see the birth of Clinton Prime and Clinton-Girl Prime. Together him and his daughter will knock down the retcon wall with her emo punches negating the Bush Administration from existence. Meanwhile Al Gore's Project OMAC will fall into the hands of Donald Rumsfeld who will reprogram it to destroy all Liberal's. Earth Neocon will be attempted to be reformed by Dick Chenney and in the end Lieberman will come out of his independent party, sacrificing himself to save us all.
 
Man I miss Clinton. He is so pimp! Looks like Clinton finally snapped. It took about 15 years, but the Republicans finally pushed him enough!
 
cass said:
Why can't you just answer the question? I want to know why you make the claim this is an "example". I don't think its that difficult. But apparently you do.

Having read the transcript I have to say that it's indicative of the bias Fox News has that all the majority of the viewers wanted to ask Clinton why he didn't do more about bin Laden. Clinton might have gone a little bit overboard but if it was truly Wallace's intention to talk about the Clinton World Initiative he would have asked that first I would think. There's no problem with asking hard questions. That's not what I have a problem with here. I'm sure we've read the transcript diferently but I do see bias and entrapment here.
 
Wallace asked the question, he got an answer. He got a much more detailed and full answer than he deserved.

I don't understand. Don't ask the question if you can't handle the answer! Wallace asked, Clinton answered... where's the problem?
 
That's true. The question was pointed and fairly personal so really, Clinton's answer is not all that surprising.
 
^The problem is he spoke the truth. That isn't very popular right now.
 
KingOfDreams said:
Having read the transcript I have to say that it's indicative of the bias Fox News has that all the majority of the viewers wanted to ask Clinton why he didn't do more about bin Laden. Clinton might have gone a little bit overboard but if it was truly Wallace's intention to talk about the Clinton World Initiative he would have asked that first I would think. There's no problem with asking hard questions. That's not what I have a problem with here. I'm sure we've read the transcript diferently but I do see bias and entrapment here.

It's a reasonable question. Clinton, while offered, has never appeared in a one on one interview on Fox in over 10 years. People just want answers. Clinton wouldn't let it go. He ranted about a right wing conspiracy. Wallace asked one question, that Clinton took on and ranted about for about 10 minutes. The format of the interview was set up as 5 various questions and 5 questions about CGI. Clinton shot himself in the foot. People ask Bush about Tora Bora, are they biased because of that?
 
KingOfDreams said:
Having read the transcript I have to say that it's indicative of the bias Fox News has that all the majority of the viewers wanted to ask Clinton why he didn't do more about bin Laden. Clinton might have gone a little bit overboard but if it was truly Wallace's intention to talk about the Clinton World Initiative he would have asked that first I would think. There's no problem with asking hard questions. That's not what I have a problem with here. I'm sure we've read the transcript diferently but I do see bias and entrapment here.
I think more to the point: if you ask someone a tough question you should not act put upon when you get a tough answer. He obviously expected Clinton to dodge the question or give some half assed answer (or possibly apologize). However Chris Wallace underestimated the man who told John Kerry to "attack, attack, attack". Clinton was and is not afraid of people who attempt to smear his name through the mud, not in the way John Kerry is. I think this is just a case of a horse jockey picking on a powerlifter. Chris Wallace though he could take on Big C and look like a hero of the Neocons, he thought wrong.
 
If a conservative was asked the same thing and responded the way Clinton did, not one of you would say it was biased, you would just post "OMG, look at how _____ blows up! Stupid Republican! LOL!"
 
KingOfDreams said:
Anyhoo, this is a perfect example of just how biased Fox News is. What's kind of amazing is that they don't even seem to try and hide it...all the while having thier "Fair and Balanced" slogan.

I think I have the "Fair and Balanced" thing figured out. The people on Fox constantly riff off the idea that all other media is biased. Well, of course they're right. All sources are biased, because all journalists worth their salt have opinions. I think the reason that Fox News uses that slogan is because they aim to be a "balance" to other liberal media outlets. The fairness and balance is supposed to lie within its relation to other outlets, not within the outlet itself.
 
cass said:
It's a reasonable question. Clinton, while offered, has never appeared in a one on one interview on Fox in over 10 years.

Would you walk into the lion's den? And I add to this with the fact that Cheney, while I'm sure he's appeared on Meet The Press, has done most of his TV news appearences on FOX. Coincidence? I think not. I don't mention Bush because he doesn't really do TV besides official speeches which are broadcast on all networks. I mean, a child could outwit him.
 
C.F. Kane said:
I think I have the "Fair and Balanced" thing figured out. The people on Fox constantly riff off the idea that all other media is biased. Well, of course they're right. All sources are biased, because all journalists worth their salt have opinions. I think the reason that Fox News uses that slogan is because they aim to be a "balance" to other liberal media outlets. The fairness and balance is supposed to lie within its relation to other outlets, not within the outlet itself.

That's a good theory.
 
cass said:
It's a reasonable question. Clinton, while offered, has never appeared in a one on one interview on Fox in over 10 years. People just want answers. Clinton wouldn't let it go. He ranted about a right wing conspiracy. Wallace asked one question, that Clinton took on and ranted about for about 10 minutes. The format of the interview was set up as 5 various questions and 5 questions about CGI. Clinton shot himself in the foot. People ask Bush about Tora Bora, are they biased because of that?


How did Clinton shoot himself in the foot? He made many good points. He recognised Fox' blatent attempt to trap him, so he got a little angry. I really don't care that he got angry, because he spoke so much truth. He gave a really full answer to the question. How can anyone write in any newspaper "Clinton didn't do enough to get bin laden" now???
 
KingOfDreams said:
Would you walk into the lion's den?

How is it "walking into a lion's den"? Talking to the media? Good grief.
 
cass said:
If a conservative was asked the same thing and responded the way Clinton did, not one of you would say it was biased, you would just post "OMG, look at how _____ blows up! Stupid Republican! LOL!"


But you just did the same thing with a liberal/democrat?:huh:
 
cass said:
It's a reasonable question. Clinton, while offered, has never appeared in a one on one interview on Fox in over 10 years. People just want answers. Clinton wouldn't let it go. He ranted about a right wing conspiracy.
I did not hear much in the way of conspiracy. He brought up a disinformation campaign, but his main point was that he did more than they did. He also pointed to facts and actually made points rather than talking points.
Wallace asked one question, that Clinton took on and ranted about for about 10 minutes.
I don't see any problem with that. Do you?
The format of the interview was set up as 5 various questions and 5 questions about CGI.
Clinton did not set up the questions, Fox did. If Fox feels the need to attack or question the decision making of a former President as their openning remark I would assume that is going to be a key point of their interview.
Clinton shot himself in the foot.
Actually Chris Wallace shot himself in the foot. I would not be surprised if he gets fired, hosts on that Network have gotten the axe for less.
People ask Bush about Tora Bora, are they biased because of that?
No, but then they don't pass up questioning Condelezza Rice on the same question or Donald Rumsfeld when they did a piece on him.

I remember once of Fox news they said a poll was done on "famous liars", among them were Clinton, OJ Simpson and Robert Blake. So essentially lumping him in with two suspected murderers.
 
kainedamo said:
How can anyone write in any newspaper "Clinton didn't do enough to get bin laden" now???

See his own admission in one of my previous posts in this thread.

:woot:
 
cass said:
If a conservative was asked the same thing and responded the way Clinton did, not one of you would say it was biased, you would just post "OMG, look at how _____ blows up! Stupid Republican! LOL!"

You should know by now that alot of us look at each situation individually. If a Republican as asked the same question, it depends on how he answers really.

It's not our fault we can see the clear bias in Fox news and everything they do.
 
cass said:
See his own admission in one of my previous posts in this thread.

:woot:


Do you mean where he said something like "I didn't do enough because I didn't catch him".

But it's true that he's done more than this administration. The current administration has completley forgot about Bin Laden.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
Clinton did not set up the questions, Fox did. If Fox feels the need to attack or question the decision making of a former President as their openning remark I would assume that is going to be a key point of their interview.
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It was not the opening remark at all. Actually read the transcript.
 
cass said:
It was not the opening remark at all. Actually read the transcript.
It was after the introductry remarks. It was the first legitimate question he asked.
 

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