Bill Clinton smacking down Chris Wallace.

cass said:
How is it an example? He brought up a simple question. Clinton went on a wild eyed crazy rant, talking about the "right wing conspiracy". Wallace wanted to discuss the Clinton Global Iniative. Clinton wanted to keep ranting. How is it biased to ask a question?

Sorry. Unlike Jon Stewart tossing softball questions, Wallace is an actual journalist. It's not biased. It's actual journalism.

CW: I asked a question. You don’t think that’s a legitimate question?
WJC: It was a perfectly legitimate question. But I want to know how many
people in the Bush administration you’ve asked this question of. I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked ‘Why didn’t you do anything about the Cole?’ I want to know how many you asked ‘Why did you fire Dick Clarke?’ I want to know…
CW: We asked…
WJC: [..]
CW: Do you ever watch FOX News Sunday, sir?
WJC: I don’t believe you ask them that.
CW: We ask plenty of questions of…
WJC: You didn’t ask that, did you? Tell the truth.
CW: About the USS Cole?
WJC: Tell the truth…
CW: I…with Iraq and Afghanistan, there’s plenty of stuff to ask.






LOL, Wallace tries to sidestep it and fails. "About the USS Cole?"

no chris, obviously about Osama.:woot:
Wallace is one of the better journalists on the Fox network (that's why I watch him on sundays) but he is still under the rule of his fox overlords.:ninja:
 
ShadowBoxing said:
I went to the link. So let me ask you...what would be so hard about showing the actual video clip of the actual statement. Smells fishy to me.

edit: Apparently they refused access to the statement on video :rolleyes:


Moreso, Clinton was following the law, he had no basis in which to bring him in, so I guess people want a President that brekas the laws, oh thats right, nevermind.
 
cass said:
Keep up the denial there!
You do know that how you phrase something or the context actually has a major impact on the nature of the question. That article you posted does a nice job of removing the context of what the questions were to create the appearance that Chris Wallace asked Rumsfeld the tough questions. However, as I showed he pretty much goated the entire interview along to elicit very standard Republican responses to those questions. It's really not hard to see the difference.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
CW: I asked a question. You don’t think that’s a legitimate question?
WJC: It was a perfectly legitimate question. But I want to know how many
people in the Bush administration you’ve asked this question of. I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked ‘Why didn’t you do anything about the Cole?’ I want to know how many you asked ‘Why did you fire Dick Clarke?’ I want to know…
CW: We asked…
WJC: [..]
CW: Do you ever watch FOX News Sunday, sir?
WJC: I don’t believe you ask them that.
CW: We ask plenty of questions of…
WJC: You didn’t ask that, did you? Tell the truth.
CW: About the USS Cole?
WJC: Tell the truth…
CW: I…with Iraq and Afghanistan, there’s plenty of stuff to ask.






LOL, Wallace tries to sidestep it and fails. "About the USS Cole?"

no chris, obviously about Osama.:woot:
Wallace is one of the better journalists on the Fox network (that's why I watch him on sundays) but he is still under the rule of his fox overlords.:ninja:


THAT'S LIKE SAYING "HE'S THE BEST ATHLETE ON THE 'SPECIAL OLYMPICS' TEAM. :dry:
 
Darthphere said:
Moreso, Clinton was following the law, he had no basis in which to bring him in, so I guess people want a President that brekas the laws, oh thats right, nevermind.
Yeah. On this one site they mentioned if Clinton had killed Osama he would have violated national law, claiming that by saying he "would have" that's criminal. But I guess for Republicans breaking national law and adultry bad, breaking international law -why that's the American way!
 
lazur said:
Of course none of the Clinton backers would go to this link, right? Or if they did, they would outright dismiss what he said himself about letting Bin Laden go, right?

Bill Clinton is a has been, and he's not even good at that.

are you kidding me? how is a man that had not comitted any acts of war against the US going to be extradited? how is it Clinton's fault that that IN 1996 he didn't "get" him? it says that there was "talk" but no negotiation. about a man, who, nutty as he was was a former US ally and the US had nothgin on him.
I have posted time and time again about everything that Clinton did about this and how the right wing fought him every step, saying he was trying to shift focus of the Monica scandal, and how Bush ran a campaign of no foereign intervention or nation building, yet 12 montsh after that he was a "war president" ha, laughable.
yet by 2000 it was clear that Bin Laden wanted to do something about the US, what did Bush do about that?
oh, I remember, he cut anti-terrorism funding in favor of his missile defense shield.

remember how useful that was?
 
Docker said:
You are a freakin giant among ants! A genius among high school drop outs! I follow your lead! I become your official bodyguard and back that motion.
With Bill Clinton and the Shadowloo backing us we cannot fail in world domination.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
CW: I asked a question. You don’t think that’s a legitimate question?
WJC: It was a perfectly legitimate question. But I want to know how many
people in the Bush administration you’ve asked this question of. I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked ‘Why didn’t you do anything about the Cole?’ I want to know how many you asked ‘Why did you fire Dick Clarke?’ I want to know…
CW: We asked…
WJC: [..]
CW: Do you ever watch FOX News Sunday, sir?
WJC: I don’t believe you ask them that.
CW: We ask plenty of questions of…
WJC: You didn’t ask that, did you? Tell the truth.
CW: About the USS Cole?
WJC: Tell the truth…
CW: I…with Iraq and Afghanistan, there’s plenty of stuff to ask.






LOL, Wallace tries to sidestep it and fails. "About the USS Cole?"

no chris, obviously about Osama.:woot:
Wallace is one of the better journalists on the Fox network (that's why I watch him on sundays) but he is still under the rule of his fox overlords.:ninja:

He has asked the question. Repeatedly.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
are you kidding me? how is a man that had not comitted any acts of war against the US going to be extradited?

WTC Bombing '93.
 
Why not just post the link again, I would do it for you, because I love you cass.
 
I'm just pulling a page out of Sparkle's book and telling you go find it yourself.


















But my love is true.
 
ShadowBoxing said:
Has beens don't raise 7.3 Billion dollars.


TRUE.......BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP M.C. HAMMER FROM TRYING. :o
 
cass said:
WTC Bombing '93.

LOL, no, actually. :down are you that uninformed?
and Wallace has NOT asked that question, on anmy ocassion, so mcuh so, that he himself was unable to say so.
 
cass said:
Look at my posts in this thread with the link then.

LOL, Oh cass, you poor fool, Darthphere, here's cass's link

from cass's link

CLINTON: It was a perfectly legitimate question but I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked this question of. I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked why didn’t you do anything about the Cole. I want to know how many you asked why did you fire Dick Clarke.
Wallace replied that such questions had been asked. Clinton replied: “I don’t believe you asked them that.”



however, cass missed this little tidbit....



here's the question asked of him



"CW: …but the question is why didn’t you do more? Connect the dots and put them out of business?"


here's the question asked to the Bush admin:


"— what you ended up doing in the end was going after al Qaeda where it lived. . . . pre-9/11 should you have been thinking more about that?"


anyone with half a brain would understand the one difference that made Clinton angry.


why didn't you do more?

do you THINK you SHOULD'VE done more?


anyone notice a difference?


yeah, pretty much.:woot:


so in the end, no, Cass, you fail.







 
Yeah, its clear he did ask a similar question, but it was a softened up presentation.
 
It's not even the same question really. "Why didn't you do more" is accusatory in tone. While "Do you think you should have done more" is more pensive, more recollective. It doesn't accuse him of not doing enough, but it gives him the opportunity to say "I wish we knew then what we know now, as I would have done so much more."

Anyone who believes that Fox News is fair and balanced like they claim to be should watch "Outfoxed", a documentary about Fox News and their bias.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
LOL, no, actually. :down are you that uninformed?
and Wallace has NOT asked that question, on anmy ocassion, so mcuh so, that he himself was unable to say so.

WTC'93. And yes, he has. Dumbass.
 
I was somewhat surprised at Clinton's reaction to the question, but I guess it was the result of a build-up of all the false claims that Republicans have leveled at him over the years. There are still people who believe the myth that he had Bin Laden cornered and just let him go. That's a direct result of a right-wing smear campaign. Apparently, this question, coming on the heels of the misrepresentation of the Clinton administration in the 9/11 movie on ABC, sent him over the edge. I guess I can't really blame him. Fox would never phrase a question like that when confronting a Bush administration official. If anyone has seen the documentary "Outfoxed", as Cyclops mentioned above, they know darn well that every aspect of every newscast and interview on FNC is orchestrated by the likes of Roger Ailes. They have a specific message they try to put out there and I have no doubt that that question was meticulously crafted as a subtle dig at Clinton. Republicans are still trying to blame him for everything under the sun, and now that he's out of office he doesn't have to pretend he doesn't notice or care. Good for him for sticking up for himself and shame on the people who continue to level false claims at him.

The bottom line is, Clinton did try to capture or kill Bin Laden while he was in office. It's disappointing that it didn't happen, but he did try. What's the Bush administration's excuse? They've had 6 years to accomplish that and haven't.
 
cass said:
WTC'93. And yes, he has. Dumbass.

No, sorry, wrong on both counts, should've read further :up:
good job looking like an idiot.:heart: but then, you always do such a good job on that :up:
 
Mr Sparkle said:
No, sorry, wrong on both counts, should've read further :up:
good job looking like an idiot.:heart: but then, you always do such a good job on that :up:

Coming from you, that means oh so much.
 
cass said:
Coming from you, that means oh so much.

no, let's stick to the topic.
did you read the posts?:huh:
oh, and have you ever read about the world trade center attack of 93 and the subsequent aftermath.
somethign tells me NO on both counts :up::word:
 

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