Black Man Killed by Cops For Selling CDS

[GENERAL RAAM582]

So there is another piece of footage, better quality, from a different angle. I obviously can't post it as it's quiet graphic, but you can find it on Reddit.

I'm honestly siding with the cops on this one. He's pinned by two cops and he's still trying to reach in his pocket. You're going to get shot.

 

[Golgo-13]

..and in other news 'Water is wet…"

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So there is another piece of footage, better quality, from a different angle. I obviously can't post it as it's quiet graphic, but you can find it on Reddit.

I'm honestly siding with the cops on this one. He's pinned by two cops and he's still trying to reach in his pocket. You're going to get shot.

Isn't that exactly what the taser is for?

 

[Evelisse]

that new footage is unbelievable, f***

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Isn't that exactly what the taser is for?

I thought I read somewhere that at this point they already tased him, but perhaps not.

Sure, that's what it is used for, but that's not happened.

 

[Golgo-13]

Cops are so on edge these days. It was once considered an honorable profession, but now….not so much. A lot of them do have the whole "it's either them or me"/"us vs them" attitude, that's what makes them so trigger happy.

In this instance, simply reaching for a gun without actually seeing one is quite questionable.

 

[terry78]

If you've already got him overpowered I'd think he shouldn't even be able to reach any weapon.

 

[Dr. Evil]

And some Americans wonder why a lot of countries in the world call us "hypocrites" when we proclaim ourselves as the carriers of freedom and democracy around the world.

 

[Thundercrack85]

For shooting an armed criminal?

I mean, yeah, it would have been better if they could have taken him alive. But this isn't murder. You have an illegally armed felon resisting arrest, and by some accounts threatening people with a deadly weapon. In most countries you will be shot, or have your ass beaten into compliance.

 

[Jekecy]

Just looked at the recent, up-close video. That was intense.

Unfortunately it still wasn't a great look at everything, but I'm already seeing a clear divide (as always). You can hear the cop shout "he's got a gun!" twice, but you couldn't see anything clear. Same with the supposed hand gesture of the detainee reaching for the cop's holster prior to the shooting.

All around crap situation, but certainly won't do any good for race relations here. Can't help but feel I see absolutely no end to this anytime soon.

 

[terry78]

Yeah except for a few of the millennial hipsters I know my social media has become a blacks vs. whites thing yet again.

 

[Dr. Evil]

For shooting an armed criminal?

I mean, yeah, it would have been better if they could have taken him alive. But this isn't murder. You have an illegally armed felon resisting arrest, and by some accounts threatening people with a deadly weapon. In most countries you will be shot, or have your ass beaten into compliance.

I am going to get into more detail about the previous comments:

Ever since the American Revolution, the United States has always gloated to the rest of the world that we're the bastion of democracy and freedom around the world, especially in the 20th Century. And yet, we've had a long history of treating non-whites like crap. How does that look to the rest of the world? How did they react to the whole "Bloody Sunday" in which the Racist Governor of Alabama George Wallace unleashed the police on Black Marchers during the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's? How about the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II who did nothing to deserve internment except the fact that they're not white?

It's no wonder why so many African countries in the 60's and 70's went towards the Soviet Union.

It's the history of this country that makes the others think that. This is mainly coming from developing countries as our European allies are as equally guilty of the same types of oppression in their colonial empires.

 

[L33CHem]

Black man kills a white officer.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/06/jefferson_parish_deputy_killed.html

The cop who died was white, and thug that shot him was black. Media can move on from that one quickly. It's only worth making the news if someone committing a crime is black, and a white officer ends up using excessive force or shoots someone who doesn't comply.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I am going to get into more detail about the previous comments:

Ever since the American Revolution, the United States has always gloated to the rest of the world that we're the bastion of democracy and freedom around the world, especially in the 20th Century. And yet, we've had a long history of treating non-whites like crap. How does that look to the rest of the world? How did they react to the whole "Bloody Sunday" in which the Racist Governor of Alabama George Wallace unleashed the police on Black Marchers during the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's? How about the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II who did nothing to deserve internment except the fact that they're not white?

It's no wonder why so many African countries in the 60's and 70's went towards the Soviet Union.

It's the history of this country that makes the others think that. This is mainly coming from developing countries as our European allies are as equally guilty of the same types of oppression in their colonial empires.

...okay. But, does that apply here? I'm not convinced it does.

 

[L33CHem]

For shooting an armed criminal?

I mean, yeah, it would have been better if they could have taken him alive. But this isn't murder. You have an illegally armed felon resisting arrest, and by some accounts threatening people with a deadly weapon. In most countries you will be shot, or have your ass beaten into compliance.

What matters is the race(s) involved. That's what brings out the crowds and media creates a frenzy on. As long as it is a white cop killing a black male, it doesn't matter if justified or not. They know that reporting a black man killed by a white cop is enough to burn a city down, and they will want to film it.

 

[Lencho01]

New York Daily News will have Sterling on their front page. Blood and all.

 

[L33CHem]

Didn't exactly see this plastered on the news did we? It just doesn't fit that stirring of media pot.

http://www.fox10tv.com/story/32310031/the-death-of-jpso-deputy-david-michel-jr-what-we-know-so-far

Very sad.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/david...hot-killed-death-suspect-shooter-name-photos/

 

[Thundercrack85]

What matters is the race(s) involved. That's what brings out the crowds and media creates a frenzy on. As long as it is a white cop killing a black male, it doesn't matter if justified or not. They know that reporting a black man killed by a white cop is enough to burn a city down, and they will want to film it.

Well to be fair, cops do kill black people under dubious pretenses with alarming regularity. But I do think it's worth looking at individual cases.

Take Michael Brown, everyone seemed to ignore the fact that moments before the shooting, he had robbed a store. Then there were claims that he was shot with his hands up, saying "don't shoot", which turned out to be false. Something that protestors are still referencing as if it were factual.

This case, seems similar to me. It's been 24 hours, and we already know that Sterling was a violent felon, a registered sex offender and apparently concealing an illegal weapon.

I'm as skeptical of police as the next guy, but it might be better to wait before declaring the man a victim of racist police brutality.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I was watching I Love Lucy and I kept thinking how much backlash there would if Ricky Ricardo was black.

Not just back then but in 2016.

Blacks are just viewed differently. No matter the social status, the education, and the clothes.

We can't say "Lucy, I'm home" and America just laughs.

No, that's not funny.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Black man kills a white officer.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/06/jefferson_parish_deputy_killed.html

The cop who died was white, and thug that shot him was black. Media can move on from that one quickly. It's only worth making the news if someone committing a crime is black, and a white officer ends up using excessive force or shoots someone who doesn't comply.

There are literally hundreds of police abuse videos.

How many have whites shot execution style?

Oh and the cop killer will get the death penalty 100%. No question about it.

Cops who murder rarely even spend a day in county.

 

[terry78]

If this thread is still active tomorrow morning I applaud the civility.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I do think the title should be changed.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I wonder if the outcry would have been different if the victim had been Asian? I say this because Asian Americans are of many different ethnic groups and therefore would not be united by mass protests....or would we? I wonder what the reaction would be from Japanese, Vietnamese or Korean Americans if the victim had been Chinese American? Or Filipino? Would there be mass protests of Asians?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I wonder if the outcry would have been different if the victim had been Asian? I say this because Asian Americans are of many different ethnic groups and therefore would not be united by mass protests....or would we? I wonder what the reaction would be from Japanese, Vietnamese or Korean Americans if the victim had been Chinese American? Or Filipino? Would there be mass protests of Asians?

No. But there isn't an epidemic of police killing Asian people.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I wonder if the outcry would have been different if the victim had been Asian? I say this because Asian Americans are of many different ethnic groups and therefore would not be united by mass protests....or would we? I wonder what the reaction would be from Japanese, Vietnamese or Korean Americans if the victim had been Chinese American? Or Filipino? Would there be mass protests of Asians?

Do Asians fear for their lives every time they get pulled over?

Cause black men in general very much fear for their lives.

Why do you think that is? Unfounded paranioa?