Black Man Killed by Cops For Selling CDS

[craigdbfan]

The Falcon Heights video starts when that young guy already got shot so it's a little harder to know all the facts and again we don't know all the details yet. Not just going to take the girlfriends account for the automatic truth but if they find that there was no gun in that car and the guy was simply reaching for his wallet like the officer instructed then that officer should face criminal charges (in an ideal world face the death penalty).

The one true execution and the case that deserved even more attention is the case of Oscar Grant. That was a pure, flat out execution. That police officer should have received the death penalty.

That's the only high profile case where I 100% agree the officer was completely out of line but with all these other ones that keep getting panhandled by the media, not so much.

 

[childeroland]

Did the police know about these disgusting crimes when they approached him? Were the police questioning him about these crimes ? Are these crimes why the police approached him?

 

[craigdbfan]

Sawyer's tweets are about the Minnesota (Falcon Heights) shooting.

Ah, my mistake.

 

[Steyin]

I'm enraged about all this. It's disgusting. And nothing is going to happen as a result of it.

The citizens need to do something, man. There are more of us than them. We could take back this damn country tomorrow if we wanted to, but we won't. It can't just be one person or one group of 20 or 30, it needs to be everyone. A total uprising. But everyone wants to kick back and watch America's Got Talent instead.

DO SOMETHING.

With gun violence and racism running rampant, tack on social/economic/class warfare and I give this country another 20 years before a new Civil War breaks out.

 

[craigdbfan]

I'll say this too. The only thing that I agree with when it comes to the far left in these cases and that is to hire police officers based on the ethnic/racial make up of any town/city.

That would completely get rid of all this police bashing and to be quite frank very little will probably change in the more volatile black communities even with an all black police unit protecting ________ city in regards to the death of black men. Black police officers will probably do the same thing but maybe just the fact that they're black might ease tensions from the initial interaction creating a more peaceful outcome. At least in theory.

 

[Greens]

With gun violence and racism running rampant, tack on social/economic/class warfare and I give this country another 20 years before a new Civil War breaks out.

I highly doubt it. People are way too complacent to start a civil war. If anything, a group of loud minorities (not racial minorities, but loud action groups) would start something while the rest of the country watches it on TV.

 

[Rocketman]

With gun violence and racism running rampant, tack on social/economic/class warfare and I give this country another 20 years before a new Civil War breaks out.

I wish that were true, but Occupy Wall Street says otherwise.

 

[Schlosser85]

People are too apathetic for a civil war. They might miss an episode of Keeping up with the Kardashians or Duck Dynasty.

 

[childeroland]

The bashing would stop if police stopped murdering people. I doubt people would be less outraged if the murderers were black.

 

[Rocketman]

Did the police know about these disgusting crimes when they approached him? Were the police questioning him about these crimes ? Are these crimes why the police approached him?

Exactly. I've been thinking the same thing.

Just because he *happened* to be a criminal doesn't mean the cops get off scott free. It just means they had dumb luck. (Luck isn't even the right word - it's a convenient excuse.)

 

[craigdbfan]

The bashing would stop if police stopped murdering people. I doubt people would be less outraged if the murderers were black.

Yes they will actually, Chicago is perfect proof of that.

It's the one point BLM and I agree on and that's creating a racially proportioned police force and presence for any given location. It's a great idea.

The media and in the end BLM would be the only ones to not like the idea as I can assure you CNN and the like will not cover a story where a black police officer does this to another black person. The ratings aren't there and the fervor isn't here.

 

[childeroland]

What happened in Chicago that proves that?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

With gun violence and racism running rampant, tack on social/economic/class warfare and I give this country another 20 years before a new Civil War breaks out.

I kind of wish half the country would secede to create their own "utopia" with low taxes, no undocument workers, no social safety net, no environmental protections, little diversity, segregation, theocratic laws, etc.

But it wouldn't be fair to future generations who are stuck there against their will. Not to mention it could end up being a North Korea/South Korea stand off situation for centuries.

But the question is how does a society continue when the population is split on nearly every fiscal and social policy. No matter what happens half the country is going to be dissatisfied and pissed off.

 

[Steyin]

I wish that were true, but Occupy Wall Street says otherwise.

People are too apathetic for a civil war. They might miss an episode of Keeping up with the Kardashians or Duck Dynasty.

I highly doubt it. People are way too complacent to start a civil war. If anything, a group of loud minorities (not racial minorities, but loud action groups) would start something while the rest of the country watches it on TV.

Ok, 50 years

 

[Lencho01]

Yes they will actually, Chicago is perfect proof of that.

It's the one point BLM and I agree on and that's creating a racially proportioned police force and presence for any given location. It's a great idea.

The media and in the end BLM would be the only ones to not like the idea as I can assure you CNN and the like will not cover a story where a black police officer does this to another black person. The ratings aren't there and the fervor isn't here.

Pretty sure as far as BLM goes, the issue is with cops in general. Not just White ones.

 

[RockSP]

For one the title of the thread should be changed. The title already implicates guilt on the officers part.

The clearest video shows this convicted felon (for one of the most disgusting crimes of carnal knowledge. Not to mention he was also arrested for battery charges) reaching for his gun. He gets a hold of his gun and the cops still don't shot even with guns drawn and then he decides to start firing off as he's still tussling around on the ground and that's when the officers shoot to neutralize any collateral damage.

Nothing wrong was done here for the exception that this guy shouldn't of have been out on the streets to begin with.

It shows how upside down things are when a freaking vigil and crap is held for a convicted sex offender pedophile.

These officers did nothing wrong and thankfully that latest video exonerates them.

Anyone else on here seen this version? No other site I've gone on seems to be on the same page as this guy.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Pretty sure as far as BLM goes, the issue is with cops in general. Not just White ones.

This.

 

[Teelie]

Anyone else on here seen this version? No other site I've gone on seems to be on the same page as this guy.

Nowhere else I have seen has made this claim. That sounds like a cops version of justification for shooting him. His past history also has absolutely no relevancy when they had already tasered and subdued him. If he had a gun in his pocket but could not reach it, that does not justify shooting him to death. Another thing is a juvenile can be 17 years old. In this case she was 14, not a pedophile but I guess close enough for some people.

The cops overreacted from the way the videos show the encounter, neither of which shows clearly his hand reaching or not reaching for a gun.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I wouldn't be oppossed to a mostly black police force in urban areas.

Not because I think they're infallible or incorruptible but because I suspect they're somewhat less trigger happy than some other cops who completely dehumanize blacks.

 

[Schlosser85]

I don't think it's a bad idea to use the local neighborhoods and communities as recruiting pools, and police who are natives of those areas might understand the communities and people better and be more empathetic, but there are also some qualms I would have.

1) Risk of cops being "too" empathetic and protecting or turning a blind eye to criminal activities committed by their friends and neighbors

2) recruiting from those neighborhoods to meet some pre-ordained quota, regardless of whether the recruits are suitable material

 

[Teelie]

I disagree with that. I have seen, heard and known several black men and officers who would have no trouble shooting and killing another black man, or any other race. When it comes to police violence, skin color doesn't matter. What needs to change is the police mentality, training methods and handling of hostile situations. Shoot to kill should not be as high as it is.

 

[Sithborg]

I think a mix is definitely ideal.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I disagree with that. I have seen, heard and known several black men and officers who would have no trouble shooting and killing another black man, or any other race. When it comes to police violence, skin color doesn't matter. What needs to change is the police mentality, training methods and handling of hostile situations. Shoot to kill should not be as high as it is.

How often do black cops shoot an innocent, unarmed person?

I can't think of any cases and I've seen countless police abuse videos.

I'm not saying black cops are morally superior but they might be less trigger happy in these tense situations.

 

[Lencho01]

How often do black cops shoot an innocent, unarmed person?

I can't think of any cases and I've seen countless police abuse videos.

I'm not saying black cops are morally superior but they might be less trigger happy in these tense situations.

It was one of the aspects I liked about the Compton film and others like it where they showed Black cops aren't exactly going to mean better treatment. I remember seeing some video of a Black cop who was very verbally vicious and made me wonder how he could even be a cop.

Though, they might be less likely to shoot. But, I feel like it has something to do with the individuals, their training, and the gun issues we have.

 

[JaD]

It was one of the aspects I liked about the Compton film and others like it where they showed Black cops aren't exactly going to mean better treatment. I remember seeing some video of a Black cop who was very verbally vicious and made me wonder how he could even be a cop.

You mean the cop screaming his badge number at the guy recording with his phone? That guy deserves his own reality show. My brother has been trying to become a cop for the last couple years and I always tell him he'd be a 'roided out monster like him.