Blade Runner 2049 - Part 2

[Closerframe]

Dumb blockbusters make more internationally too. Putting doubts on the crux of your point.

My point was this would ultimately make more internationally than domestically, how exactly do dumb movies making more internationally have a barring on my point? I wasn't suggesting international viewers are more receptive to cinematically complex films. If anything, the film will do well in foreign markets because of its diverse cast, not because of its complex characters and story.

 

[Tg11]

Apparently early reviews are in for Blade Runner 2049 and the reviews are great

 

[squeekness]

I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 

[jmc]

Am I going to have to watch the first one before this? I've avoided doing so because I have no idea which is the 'correct' version to watch.

 

[Dyson]

Am I going to have to watch the first one before this? I've avoided doing so because I have no idea which is the 'correct' version to watch.

Watch the final cut. That's Ridley Scott's definitive version.

It's brilliant and beautiful.

 

[OfficerK]

Am I going to have to watch the first one before this? I've avoided doing so because I have no idea which is the 'correct' version to watch.

The new one won't have a voiceover and will likely be closer in tone to the final cut. Which is the one to watch if you have the time. You don't "have" to see it to enjoy the new one. But it might be more powerful or easier to understand having prior knowledge of the characters past and what a replicant is etc.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

My point was this would ultimately make more internationally than domestically, how exactly do dumb movies making more internationally have a barring on my point? I wasn't suggesting international viewers are more receptive to cinematically complex films. If anything, the film will do well in foreign markets because of its diverse cast, not because of its complex characters and story.

You said Americans aren't receptive to slow burn and thought provoking movies. Which recontextualizes your earlier sentence about it making more overseas by implying they would be more receptive to said slow, thought provoking movies.

But considering the fast paced, trashy films that also make more money overseas. It's readily unclear the reason it would make more is because they are more receptive to slow paved, thought provoking movies.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Am I going to have to watch the first one before this? I've avoided doing so because I have no idea which is the 'correct' version to watch.

There's no harm in that for sure. Surprised you haven't watched the film yet.

Anyway, I think, they aren't that much different from each other. If it's going to be your first experience, just watch The Final Cut. It's the director's preferred version, cleaned up and remastered. Archival versions are either for massive fans or for purist fanatics, who don't accept any alterations beyond theatrical release. Also for those, who fell in love with earlier versions of the movie.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Am I going to have to watch the first one before this? I've avoided doing so because I have no idea which is the 'correct' version to watch.

The final cut.

 

[jmc]

There's no harm in that for sure. Surprised you haven't watched the film yet.

Anyway, I think, they aren't that much different from each other. If it's going to be your first experience, just watch The Final Cut. It's the director's preferred version, cleaned up and remastered. Archival versions are either for massive fans or for purist fanatics, who don't accept any alterations beyond theatrical release. Also for those, who fell in love with earlier versions of the movie.

I haven't watched it because as far as I'm concern if a film needs to release multiple cuts then something isn't right with it in the first place. Plus I've heard people tell me it's just boring, so I just kinda avoided it.

 

[OfficerK]

When I first saw Blade Runner it was against the advice of my friends who said I probably wouldn't like it. Then I saw it and now ten years later it's still my favorite movie. So i've learned not to listen to people a lot of the time. Just something to think about.

 

[flickchick85]

Can't go wrong with the Final Cut, imo.

 

[dallywhitty]

Blade Runner is The Greatest Film in the History of the Known Universe™, so the concept of people avoiding it is baffling to me. What are you even doing with your life?

Check out that masterpiece before you watch 2049.

 

[Dyson]

To be honest, the best theater going experience I've ever had was seeing the final cut on the big screen in 2007. It was an incredible experience and my love for Blade Runner grew from it. Plus, that night just also happened to be a cold, rainy night in the city I saw it in and after I watched the movie, I had a drink with a friend at a bar called The Unicorn.

I can't wait to watch Blade Runner 2049 next Thursday on IMAX!

 

[kguillou]

You said Americans aren't receptive to slow burn and thought provoking movies. Which recontextualizes your earlier sentence about it making more overseas by implying they would be more receptive to said slow, thought provoking movies.

But considering the fast paced, trashy films that also make more money overseas. It's readily unclear the reason it would make more is because they are more receptive to slow paved, thought provoking movies.

To be fair, I think it's all in how a movie's advertised. If a movie's advertised as an action movie when its not, people will come out disappointed. If its advertised as a drama or a mystery or a film noir, then that changes expectations. With BR 2049, they seem to be marketing it as a blockbuster, especially since they're releasing it in 3D Imax, so I think a lot of people may get the wrong idea thinking they're going to see Ryan Gosling and Harrison Ford kick butt for 2 and a half hours.

 

[Link]

I saw the original film for the first time last year, and didn't exactly love it. I appreciated how it obviously had influenced quite a lot of cinema I had seen, the music and the visuals, but it didn't strike me emotionally, it was too slow, and I absolutely hated Deckard who was not only boring but also rapey. It did stick with me, I kept thinking about it and the way the famous monologue at the end brings everything together. I rewatched it a month ago, and it all clicked perfectly. It didn't even feel slow, now that I knew what I was getting.

If you are watching the original film now for the first time, there's really no preparing for it, it's very special. You might have to give it another chance.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I haven't watched it because as far as I'm concern if a film needs to release multiple cuts then something isn't right with it in the first place. Plus I've heard people tell me it's just boring, so I just kinda avoided it.

Just watch the damn film and decide for yourself. t:

 

[OfficerK]

Some speculation..

Spoiler

After seeing that scene last night with Leto I think they end up killing that newborn replicant. I think she's an experiment to get replicants to breed and those floating orbs allow Wallace to see inside her. This was a failure and he orders Luv to terminate this newborn. Luv has to obey (due to being nexus 9), sheds a tear etc. There's even tv spots showing him drawing a knife. Which touches on the ethical issues of creating replicants/disposing on them even further.

 

[chamber-music]

I saw the original film for the first time last year, and didn't exactly love it. I appreciated how it obviously had influenced quite a lot of cinema I had seen, the music and the visuals, but it didn't strike me emotionally, it was too slow, and I absolutely hated Deckard who was not only boring but also rapey. It did stick with me, I kept thinking about it and the way the famous monologue at the end brings everything together. I rewatched it a month ago, and it all clicked perfectly. It didn't even feel slow, now that I knew what I was getting.

If you are watching the original film now for the first time, there's really no preparing for it, it's very special. You might have to give it another chance.

I was indifferent to Blade Runner the first time I saw it as well. The movie grew on me. The more I times I saw it, the more I liked it.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I saw the original film for the first time last year, and didn't exactly love it. I appreciated how it obviously had influenced quite a lot of cinema I had seen, the music and the visuals, but it didn't strike me emotionally, it was too slow, and I absolutely hated Deckard who was not only boring but also rapey. It did stick with me, I kept thinking about it and the way the famous monologue at the end brings everything together. I rewatched it a month ago, and it all clicked perfectly. It didn't even feel slow, now that I knew what I was getting.

If you are watching the original film now for the first time, there's really no preparing for it, it's very special. You might have to give it another chance.

The fact that the ending monologue was ad libbed by Hauer makes it all the more impressive.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Some reviews are heavy on spoilers. You've been warned.


Indiewire- http://bit.ly/2fDoW2p

THR Film Review: #BladeRunner2049 http://thr.cm/Cv4GEu

Variety Review: #BladeRunner2049 http://bit.ly/2ycQdQO

The Wrap- #BladeRunner2049 http://www.thewrap.com/blade-runner-2049-review-ryan-gosling-harrison-ford/ …

EW- http://ew.com/movies/2017/09/29/blade-runner-2049-review/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly&utm_source=***********&utm_medium=social&xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

Empire Magazine- http://www.empireonline.com/movies/blade-runner-2049/review/ …

https://slate.com/arts/2017/09/blade...-reviewed.html

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/29/1...nis-villeneuve

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/b...tive-profound/

 

[Fallen Angel]

Metacrtic Ratings http://www.metacritic.com/movie/blade-runner-2049

Rotten Tomatos- https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blade_runner_2049#top-critics-numbers

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Oh man...it's way too early for all that. Just tell me if it's as good as they're saying.

 

[Fallen Angel]

It's good but one or two reviews are saying it might be a bit too long. As some of us predicted that might be the case.

Just look at the RT and Metacrtic pages if you're not wanting to read reviews.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Avoid the reviews, they are all filled to the brim with spoilers.