Comics BND Sales

[Donald Thomas]

Aloha,
Just saw an announcement at Wizardworld that the first issue of BND sold out. No details regarding sales numbers for comparison.
Spidey rules

 

[farmernudie]

TMOB: By year's end, we'll know whether BND will be successful in the long run

Oy...it's gonna be hard to wait SO long...i want good spidey stories again...it stinks they took spidey away from fans, and forced an alternate one or nothing at all.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Oy...it's gonna be hard to wait SO long...i want good spidey stories again...it stinks they took spidey away from fans, and forced an alternate one or nothing at all.

It's cool, don't worry it's hard on a lot of people. But look at it this way there's a ton of other good books out right now, there's ASG for your bug fix and there's got to be countless back issues and stories you haven't read or didn't remember. Catch up a bit, read the Spider-Man we all know and love, and before you're through (if we've been strong and maintained) this will all just become a bad dream like the clone saga.

 

[farmernudie]

Hope it is a bad dream and ends soon.

I mean, a new reality caused by Pete and Satan is not my thing. Nor does Pete and satan creating thus new world make a good foundation for "great classic spidey stories". Just can't bring myself to pretend THAT concept, of Pete dealing with Satan, ...good.

 

[Eye Doc]

I retailer friend of mine just told me that sales are down on AMZ in his store. I remember he told me once that his store ranked in the top 10 percentile in Marvel sales on the east coast.

This week told me that 80% of his AMZ copies are usually sold during the 1st week on the stand. The next week he'll sale about 17%. Only 3% of sales on AMZ occur outside of the 2 week window.

Since the start of BND his sales have dropped dramatically.

He sold a 100 copies of AMZ #542, the first issue of OMD.

Issue #546, the first issue of BND has sold 58 copies after 3 weeks
Issue #547 has sold 48 copies after 2 weeks,
Iissue #548 has sold 32 copies after 1 week.

My friend even told me that he's noticed a drop in sales on some other Marvel titles.

I don't know how this compares to other stores and regions of the country. However, if other retailers start reporting similiar sales declines, Marvel can't help but be concerned.

 

[shinlyle]

Well, if anyone is hunting down parts 1-3 of BND, or the last 2 parts of OMD, you can go to Foundation's Edge in Raleigh....they have a TON of copies left. I was honestly shocked to see that many of part one of BND still on the rack. First Printing, too.

I know my LCS isn't a consensus of what is happening at every Comic Shop across the country, but it's still pretty bad. They couldn't keep "War at Home" and "Back in Black" on the shelf.

 

[Dangerous]

My lcs has lots of spares each week too.
Unusual for ASM which usually sells out.

 

[Hobgoblin]

It seems like my store has a lot of copies left over too, but I dont know what that means exactly. For all I know they just ordered a lot of copies. I asked the guy behind the desk how BND's sales have been going and all he said was "It's going."

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

It looks like in some places the first issue is selling,just for the idea of having something valueable. But i'm with Dangerious,the numbers will fall.

 

[Sloth7d]

It's sad. I probably would have ened up supporting BND if not for Mesphito and Peter making deals with the devil. Oh and Harrys ressurrection.
If they wanted to kill the marriage, why not stick with that? (Even though it was never a problem in the first place). Why go this far?
Yeah, hopefully sales will fall, and this nightmare will be retconned away.

 

[UltimateJustin]

Hopefully sales will continue to decrease and Joey Q will get a disease or lose his family.

 

[Themanofbat]

It's sad. I probably would have ened up supporting BND if not for Mesphito and Peter making deals with the devil. Oh and Harrys ressurrection.
If they wanted to kill the marriage, why not stick with that? (Even though it was never a problem in the first place). Why go this far?
Yeah, hopefully sales will fall, and this nightmare will be retconned away.

Hopefully, sales will rise and we'll continue to have access to the great Spidey writing as opposed to the boredom that was Spider-Man (with a few exceptions) during the last many years.

Hopefully sales will continue to decrease and Joey Q will get a disease or lose his family.

Hopefully, you can gain some level of maturity and get some perspective.

 

[Brand]

Hopefully sales will continue to decrease and Joey Q will get a disease or lose his family.

Look, I understand the need to vent - I'm as upset about OMD/BND as anyone - but there's really no need to wish sickness or death on people over a comic book. I could maybe see wishing for JQ to get a computer virus that deletes all his porn or something, but don't call for his family to keel over. That's just wrong. If you're that upset over a fictional character, that's when you know it's time for a break.

 

[Themanofbat]

Look, I understand the need to vent - I'm as upset about OMD/BND as anyone - but there's really no need to wish sickness or death on people over a comic book. I could maybe see wishing for JQ to get a computer virus that deletes all his porn or something, but don't call for his family to keel over. That's just wrong. If you're that upset over a fictional character, that's when you know it's time for a break.

Exactly...

 

[Sloth7d]

Hopefully, sales will rise and we'll continue to have access to the great Spidey writing as opposed to the boredom that was Spider-Man (with a few exceptions) during the last many years.

You DO realize the first three issues we've seen so far could have been told with the Spider-man we've had for many years now. I do hope you you realize that.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

You DO realize the first three issues we've seen so far could have been told with the Spider-man we've had for many years now. I do hope you you realize that.

Thank God they werent! I've had enough weird power, face-eating, stinger stabbing, i.d. revealing wimpy-assed Spider-Man the past three years or so to last me a lifetime.

After years of mediocrity, I feel like i'm reading the REAL Spider-Man now.

 

[Sloth7d]

Thank God they werent! I've had enough weird power, face-eating, stinger stabbing, i.d. revealing wimpy-assed Spider-Man the past three years or so to last me a lifetime.

After years of mediocrity, I feel like i'm reading the REAL Spider-Man now.

But SMino making deals with the devil is better? I just don't understand the point here.
What I'm saying is, we could have done without ALL of those crappy stories. Put Slott on the book without senseless retcons or continuity errors, and still get the product we have today.
Everything that's been told in this story could have been told before if they wanted to.

 

[Themanofbat]

You DO realize the first three issues we've seen so far could have been told with the Spider-man we've had for many years now. I do hope you you realize that.

Thank God they werent! I've had enough weird power, face-eating, stinger stabbing, i.d. revealing wimpy-assed Spider-Man the past three years or so to last me a lifetime.

After years of mediocrity, I feel like i'm reading the REAL Spider-Man now.

But SMino making deals with the devil is better? I just don't understand the point here.
What I'm saying is, we could have done without ALL of those crappy stories. Put Slott on the book without senseless retcons or continuity errors, and still get the product we have today.
Everything that's been told in this story could have been told before if they wanted to.

You're right... it could have been done with the old status quo... but the powers that be decided to go another route, and I for one, am enjoying it tremendously... as the good Captain said... after years of mediocre Spider-Man, I feel like I'm reading the REAL Spdier-Man once again.

 

[Sloth7d]

Yet you're still not outraged by how pointless this was? That it didn't need to be taken this far? That they didn't have to make Spider-man act extremely out of character. Make him deal with the Devil and turn him into the amazing SMino? I'm sorry, well actually I'm not, but that's not the Spider-man I read about. I'll start reading again, once the real Spider-man shows up and kicks this ones ass.

 

[Themanofbat]

Yet you're still not outraged by how pointless this was? That it didn't need to be taken this far? That they didn't have to make Spider-man act extremely out of character. Make him deal with the Devil and turn him into the amazing SMino? I'm sorry, well actually I'm not, but that's not the Spider-man I read about. I'll start reading again, once the real Spider-man shows up and kicks this ones ass.

Of course I was outraged... OMD sucked major league donkey balls and seemed very pointless, especially the Harry ressurection... and the Peter I have been reading for the last little while has very much been acting in character, especially considering the confines of the story... and even in the very terrible OMD... Peter did not want to deal with Mephisto until his wife encouraged him to do so... that their love will find a way, and he begrudgingly accepts... you can see it on his face... he didn't want to do it... sounds like the Peter Parker I've been reading about for 33 + years... a man who can make bad decisions and terrible choices... and you can boycott the comics and refer to him as SMino all you want... but what I'm reading in ASM now is 100% pure Spider-Man gold...

He's back... the REAL Spider-Man is BACK... and I hope he's here to stay.

 

[Sloth7d]

Of course I was outraged... OMD sucked major league donkey balls and seemed very pointless, especially the Harry ressurection... and the Peter I have been reading for the last little while has very much been acting in character, especially considering the confines of the story... and even in the very terrible OMD... Peter did not want to deal with Mephisto until his wife encouraged him to do so... that their love will find a way, and he begrudgingly accepts... you can see it on his face... he didn't want to do it... sounds like the Peter Parker I've been reading about for 33 + years... a man who can make bad decisions and terrible choices... and you can boycott the comics and refer to him as SMino all you want... but what I'm reading in ASM now is 100% pure Spider-Man gold...

He's back... the REAL Spider-Man is BACK... and I hope he's here to stay.

No. The real Spider-man would never make a deal with the devil no matter what MJ says. He wouldn't even consider it for a second. For starters he's not an idiot. He's hung around Ghost Rider and other characters who's dealt with Mesphito before and knows you can't trust the devil. Especially not to save his Aunts life. Especially after his Aunt told him to let her go when Madame Web let him talk to her. Especially while he knows his Aunt May is a christian and would never want to be saved by the devil. To her, that would be worse than letting her die. Especially while knowing she would never ask him to trade his marriage and happiness for her life. No. This guy was nothing like the Spider-man I knew. You can say he is, but his actions don't compute or add up with the original. Sorry, this is Spider-Man, yes, but only in name only.
We've discussed this before, and neither one of us budged from our stand point of it. So let's just agree to disagree. You like reading about a Spider-man who makes deals with Satan. I don't. I guess that's all their is to it.

 

[Dangerous]

Such a weird and bitter predicament. As TMOB noted the last 3 issues of Spidey were awesome and very fun to read, save for Peter living in Forrest Hills and Harry being alive,- it WAS Spider-Man gold.

What's REALLY pisses me off, along with the rest of ya, is that we could have had this great return to form and the hot creators could have been telling these exact stories without what happened in OMD and without Harry being resurrected.

What can ya do?

ASM finally returns to form but at the cost of the biggest ever continuity reset. My choice is to read but not buy.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

But SMino making deals with the devil is better? I just don't understand the point here.
What I'm saying is, we could have done without ALL of those crappy stories. Put Slott on the book without senseless retcons or continuity errors, and still get the product we have today.
Everything that's been told in this story could have been told before if they wanted to.

Ok fine. What's your point? The fact is; This is where we're at today, right here and now. Either deal with it, or remain bitter and dont.

But dont freak out on those of us who've decided to check it out, and are enjoying it as it is.

 

[moraldeficiency]

^this is why the clone saga dragged for so long. That's why we're bitter. It's cool that you like it, but you're gonna get called out every time because of it. That's where you're at today, here and now, crossing the picket lines. Either accept it, or remain bitter and don't.

 

[spider greg]

I'd be curious to see how many people would change their tune if they used the same method in OMD to restore the marriage.