Comics BND Sales

[stillanerd]

Boy... that's insulting... when has anyone here praised The Other? I know I didn't do it.

Oh, there were some that I remember reading how good in was while it was going on, even saying how hard core it was for Spidey to get his eye ripped out by Morlun. Of course, after it was over, it was a totally different story. I'm almost tempted now to go back into earlier posts to see if I can find them. However, don't think I was trying to single you out TMOB because I know that you at least have some common sense when it comes to these things.

As it was once pointed out, Peter and Mary Jane as a couple are pretty much enriched into American psyche (thanks to the movies), so it's inevitable that they will be a couple once again some day... just not a married one.

Exactly. And it's not just the movies that pretty much sold the idea that Peter and MJ are a couple but the comic books themselves. Even OMD implied as much. Of course, rather than them being the equivalent of Lois and Clark, Marvel has made Peter and MJ the equivalent of Ross and Rachel from Friends.

Well, stillanerd did say while it was going on. I wasn't here at the time, but The Other didn't start out too badly, so it's possible you or some of the others praised it at first.

Exactly the point I was making Brand.

That sorta defeats the whole purpose of that "Peter has to be a swinging bachelor so we can tell stories about other women" excuse Marvel used.

Also, I have no interest in seeing Peter and MJ dating again, especially if they're just going to be breaking up and getting back together over and over. After what we've seen from them in the past, it seems like such a waste of their characters.

Well, that's certainly what's likely to happen, and that's certainly the formula folks are getting over in Ultimate Spider-Man (which, by the way, I believe Marvel will eventually phase out in favor of Amazing Spider-Man if they plan on sticking with the new status quo) And Marvel believes that the marriage made Spidey stagnant and wasn't going anywhere, so all they did was trade one stagnation for another form of stagnation. Of course, they could have just logically progressed the marriage, but then of course, that would "age the character to much" and "lead to his eventual death" according to Joe Q.

 

[stillanerd]

double post.

 

[spider greg]

To get back on topic, during my lunch break I went to the Comic Shop near my job and except for a few issues of BND pt 1 everything was gone, no pt 2 or 3. It was like that last week also so it doesn't look like he had anything to restock.

The one near my house was pretty much the same.

When I visit my parents next week (which is out of state and where my actual subscription is) I'll get the numbers from there.

It varies from location and possibly depends on how many were initially ordered.

 

[Brand]

Well, that's certainly what's likely to happen, and that's certainly the formula folks are getting over in Ultimate Spider-Man (which, by the way, I believe Marvel will eventually phase out in favor of Amazing Spider-Man if they plan on sticking with the new status quo) And Marvel believes that the marriage made Spidey stagnant and wasn't going anywhere, so all they did was trade one stagnation for another form of stagnation. Of course, they could have just logically progressed the marriage, but then of course, that would "age the character to much" and "lead to his eventual death" according to Joe Q.

That's perfectly fine for USM. In fact, if any 15-year-old (especially Peter Parker) had a stable love life, then that's REALLY what I'd call fiction. t:

As for twenty-something Peter in the 616, I'd hope he has reached the point where we don't have to watch him ditch dates again and again to be Spider-Man. After everything he has gone through, particularly the marriage, that's a monumental regression of the character.

To get back on topic, during my lunch break I went to the Comic Shop near my job and except for a few issues of BND pt 1 everything was gone, no pt 2 or 3. It was like that last week also so it doesn't look like he had anything to restock.

The one near my house was pretty much the same.

When I visit my parents next week (which is out of state and where my actual subscription is) I'll get the numbers from there.

It varies from location and possibly depends on how many were initially ordered.

There's only one LCS near me, and it has a ton of all the issues. That's nothing new, though; there usually used to be a few extra issues of the Spidey books when I'd visit. To be honest, it seemed like SSN would sell out faster than ASM or FNSM here for some reason.

Like you've said, it really depends on location. Some places are selling well, others not at all. We'll have to wait for the official numbers to see what's really going on with ASM now, and even those won't tell the true tale for another few months.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Look, I understand the need to vent - I'm as upset about OMD/BND as anyone - but there's really no need to wish sickness or death on people over a comic book. I could maybe see wishing for JQ to get a computer virus that deletes all his porn or something, but don't call for his family to keel over. That's just wrong. If you're that upset over a fictional character, that's when you know it's time for a break.

People feel strongly about this,and i'm with him. If you want to wish harm,then fine. If they can't listen to fans,then it is their problem.

 

[Themanofbat]

People feel strongly about this,and i'm with him. If you want to wish harm,then fine. If they can't listen to fans,then it is their problem.

Then you're in need of psychiatric help as well...

While there's nothing wrong with feeling passion about a fictional character, it's another thing to wish harm and disease to a person and their families just because they decided to do something with said character that you don't approve.

It's immature and just wrong.

 

[UltimateJustin]

Look, I understand the need to vent - I'm as upset about OMD/BND as anyone - but there's really no need to wish sickness or death on people over a comic book. I could maybe see wishing for JQ to get a computer virus that deletes all his porn or something, but don't call for his family to keel over. That's just wrong. If you're that upset over a fictional character, that's when you know it's time for a break.

I meant I hope his wife leaves him and his son experiences curiousity issues with his sexuality.

 

[Themanofbat]

I meant I hope his wife leaves him and his son experiences curiousity issues with his sexuality.

Maybe you could hook up with his kid...

 

[shinlyle]

Maybe you could hook up with his kid...

Now, TMoB....he may already have a boyfriend.

 

[Brand]

Now, TMoB....he may already have a boyfriend.

I am sooo staying out of this one. t:

Oh, and congrats on the coming of little Gwen, shin. Love the name!

 

[Infidel]

I dont' think I've posted this here, but my shop a couple weeks ago still had plenty o' copies of those first three issues.

O.K., given this is the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen in all my years of a comic reading. THey just cram a bunch of gimmicks and then try to magic it away after promising that they were going to do something with it. Man, this is terrible.

What's supposed to happen here that so great? Paper Doll? ARe they kidding us?

 

[Spiderchicken]

I'm sure BND is selling well. BTW I'm selling all my Spider-man comics. I have a bunch too. I wouldn't be selling them all if it weren't for financial reasons. If you guys are looking for back issues galore (2 for 99 cents). Look at my auctions.
Snowchicken515 is my ebay tag name. Here's my store website
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsnowchicken515

Please check them out, it might help you Spider-man fans fill in the gaps in your collection.

 

[Hobgoblin]

They arent selling well at my store.
3 of part one are left.
8 of part two.
8 of part three.
7 of part four.

 

[steintym]

So far there hasn't been much of an impact at the store I go to (talked with the owner). He hears a lot of complaining, but people are hesitant to just drop at this point. Basically, folks are being patient and hoping for a massive correction/real explanation. The impacts will probably be felt in a couple of months if things don't change, or people really buy into BND.

 

[Norman Osborn]

For those wondering...all 3 January ASM titles were in the top ten!

ASM 546 #1

ASM 547 #8

ASM 548 #10

http://www.newsarama.com/marketreport/Jan08sales.html

Oh and DC got trounced...highest entrant at Position 12 JLA #17/....wow!!

 

[shinlyle]

So much for the nay-sayers who swore they would "vote with their wallets", huh?

I didn't buy them, but it looks like about half of the people who said they were quitting were just blowing smoke. This just goes to show that people will just b**** and continue to buy.

Joe Q wins, after all.

 

[moraldeficiency]

So much for the nay-sayers who swore they would "vote with their wallets", huh?

I didn't buy them, but it looks like about half of the people who said they were quitting were just blowing smoke. This just goes to show that people will just b**** and continue to buy.

Joe Q wins, after all.

Maybe they did, but this is still a big event and that always pulls in new/casual readers. They only way the boycott works is in the long run, don't expect ASM sales to suddenly drop, it'll be the opposite with a slow, and hopefully, incipient decline.

Plus most of the people I know are doing the giving it a chance mentality. Let them go, eventually the glaring contradictions will put off most of them.

 

[Norman Osborn]

So much for the nay-sayers who swore they would "vote with their wallets", huh?

I didn't buy them, but it looks like about half of the people who said they were quitting were just blowing smoke. This just goes to show that people will just b**** and continue to buy.

Joe Q wins, after all.

You knew that before these sales numbers came out Shin.....It was a brilliant move by Joe Q......bringing in Slott and the boys...bad place I'll be 100% honest......if I liked the Slott stories I would have kept it on my list....I didn't....but I'm in a huge minority......(and Personally...I think it's more than half )

 

[TalesMN]

So much for the nay-sayers who swore they would "vote with their wallets", huh?

I believe these numbers refer to sales TO comic book stores, not IN them.

Hence the numerous copies standing on the shelves.

 

[farmernudie]

These early numbers mean squat, whether high or low.

Because any "Event" pulls in non-loyal fans who aren't gonnabuy for the long run...per say.

And then you take into account the Slott affect....the gimmick covers they're still pushing...and any other gimmicks Joe's got going to launch his new spidey world.

I am more concerned about what the numbers will say a few months from NOW.

Who has actually stayed and who has gone.

Is it making more than the titles they canceled PREVIOUSLY?? (to also use a gimmick and call it all the same adjective Amazing??)

While i hate waiting, like you Shinlyle...because i want to be reading my favorite character, restored without insulting my intelligence, and ruining and altering continuity....but, i know we're gonna have to wait a bit before they fix spidey again.

But, it will happen! Let's just hope Joe doesn't take Spidey farther down the rabbit hole...and fully Ultimatize him. It's a slippery slope guys!

 

[iloveclones]

These early numbers mean squat, whether high or low.

Because any "Event" pulls in non-loyal fans who aren't gonnabuy for the long run...per say.

And then you take into account the Slott affect....the gimmick covers they're still pushing...and any other gimmicks Joe's got going to launch his new spidey world.

I am more concerned about what the numbers will say a few months from NOW.

Who has actually stayed and who has gone.

Is it making more than the titles they canceled PREVIOUSLY?? (to also use a gimmick and call it all the same adjective Amazing??)

While i hate waiting, like you Shinlyle...because i want to be reading my favorite character, restored without insulting my intelligence, and ruining and altering continuity....but, i know we're gonna have to wait a bit before they fix spidey again.

But, it will happen! Let's just hope Joe doesn't take Spidey farther down the rabbit hole...and fully Ultimatize him. It's a slippery slope guys!

You know darn well if those numbers were low, you'd be screaming it in every thread.

And as previously stated, these are comics the shops bought. Not ones actually sold. I suggest everybody stop jumping out windows and take a breath.

 

[Themanofbat]

As you laugh at all the people that say "I'm waiting for explanations" that you say will never come, I'm laughing at all the people that have had their "intelligence insulted" by comic books.

 

[stillanerd]

So much for the nay-sayers who swore they would "vote with their wallets", huh?

I didn't buy them, but it looks like about half of the people who said they were quitting were just blowing smoke. This just goes to show that people will just b**** and continue to buy.

Joe Q wins, after all.

Well, the first month of Brand New Day was bound to do well considering the controversy surrounding it, so to see it doing well is not all that surprising. Plus you have to remember that a lot of these were ordered in advance prior to One More Day coming out. But while all three issues are in top ten, notice the numbers themselves:

ASM #545--174.86 (part 4 of One More Day)
ASM #546--185.55 (first week of Brand New Day)
ASM #547--145.50 (second week of Brand New Day)
ASM #548--140.99 (third week of Brand New Day)

Looking at it this way, by the end of the month, Amazing Spider-Man lost a quarter of it's sales over a two week period after the big boost it got at the beginning of January. Also, another thing to consider is that these numbers are index numbers which don't always translate as actual customer sales. For instance, the estimated quantity of sales for ASM #545 was actually 124,481. So while the numbers certainly are good, it appears they are actually loosing readers per week...if the trend continues, that is.

EDIT: Over at newsarama, a poster made estimates of the top ten, and figures the following:

ASM #546--131,280 copies
ASM #547--104,640 copies
ASM #548--101,390 copies

 

[moraldeficiency]

I laugh at the comic stylings of Ron White.

 

[spider greg]

Well, the first month of Brand New Day was bound to do well considering the controversy surrounding it, so to see it doing well is not all that surprising. Plus you have to remember that a lot of these were ordered in advance prior to One More Day coming out. But while all three issues are in top ten, notice the numbers themselves:

ASM #545--174.86 (part 4 of One More Day)
ASM #546--185.55 (first week of Brand New Day)
ASM #547--145.50 (second week of Brand New Day)
ASM #548--140.99 (third week of Brand New Day)

Looking at it this way, by the end of the month, Amazing Spider-Man lost a quarter of it's sales over a two week period after the big boost it got at the beginning of January. Also, another thing to consider is that these numbers are index numbers which don't always translate as actual customer sales. For instance, the estimated quantity of sales for ASM #545 was actually 124,481. So while the numbers certainly are good, it appears they are actually loosing readers per week...if the trend continues, that is.

EDIT: Over at newsarama, a poster made estimates of the top ten, and figures the following:

ASM #546--131,280 copies
ASM #547--104,640 copies
ASM #548--101,390 copies

Are these sales that pertain only to North American comic shops which buy through Diamond? If that's the case, sales from the UK aren't included, also subscriptions and regular newstands and bookstores.